Maybe she got the message. Or a big foot is gonna crush her.
Also RIP the basement
The original proposed plan was solid. Use the titans as deterrent to stop invasions and allow the island to catch-up over the following decades. But it had been hijacked from start.
But I can still see the plan being salvaged, but the Rumbling needs to be stopped at the right point. Enough to scare the world but before it can cause massive casualties.
Since Eren broke all the walls, they still need some kind of deterrent to replace it.
Edit: to elaborate, the original plan was the one Zeke proposed while omitting the "Euthanasia" part from everyone else. Even if the goal was euthanasia, he was still counting on the mini-rumbling to allow Eldians to live up to old age, so there was some logistic merit on that part.
It's way too specific of an order to tell one of the colossals to come back and stomp out the foreigners on Paradis, so this isn't even an option. They'll still resist Eren, I have no doubt.Does this mean that the titans on the mainland (Pieck, Rainer etc) will be joining Eren and crew as they are all Eldians. No point being wiped out with the normies.
Does this mean that the titans on the mainland (Pieck, Rainer etc) will be joining Eren and crew as they are all Eldians. No point being wiped out with the normies.
Annie will save the day by yelling and making the colossal titans turn back, Eren won't have full control of the founding titan to counter it. Don't ask me what happens after the titans turn back.
It's already confirmed he has full control of the founding. He did it by freeing Ymir. The founding power doesn't work the way it used to(confined to royal blood control).Annie will save the day by yelling and making the colossal titans turn back, Eren won't have full control of the founding titan to counter it. Don't ask me what happens after the titans turn back.
You and me both, but what the fuck would he even be able to do at this point? I guess finally kill Zeke.
You and me both, but what the fuck would he even be able to do at this point? I guess finally kill Zeke.
It's already confirmed he has full control of the founding. He did it by freeing Ymir. The founding power doesn't work the way it used to(confined to royal blood control).
Y'all really couldn't tell that was a joke, smh.
Weird seeing him and Hange in the flashback. Almost forgot that they are two main characters we haven't seen or heard from in a bit. Considering that and the return of Annie, assuming they won't make their returns in the same chapter, yeah, there are probably 7 more chapters
This is actually a case of the build up being clearly pointing to something and people didnt want to believe it lol.That was his plan? All the build up for that?
It is kind of wack
That's literally what we're going to get lmao
Confession Time. I havent seen Code Geass yet, so you all spoiled the fuck out of it lol
That line of logic just sounds like it would perpetuate the cycle in which Eldians have power over Marleans yet again, which I'm sure Eren wants to avoid.If he can kill everyone right now then he can crush their militaries right now. He has all the power in the world atm.
Don't quit your day job.
Don't tell me what to do, I already quit yesterday, I'll be here all week.
Eren doesnt have to care about perpetuating a cycle because the enemy will all be deadThat line of logic just sounds like it would perpetuate the cycle in which Eldians have power over Marleans yet again, which I'm sure Eren wants to avoid.
That line of logic just sounds like it would perpetuate the cycle in which Eldians have power over Marleans yet again, which I'm sure Eren wants to avoid.
The other reason that I don't think that Eren is bluffing about destroying the whole world is because he's
Is it better for your people to be genocided completely than for the possibility than you might be be under another nation's thumb in the future?
I'm not saying this is what I would choose do. I'm just stating that regardless of how you view his alignment, Eren's line of logic does feel justified. It's grimy, but he's finishing the job for good. Eren has established multiple times over that his intent is to end this cycle.Is it better for your people to be genocided completely than for the possibility than you might be be under another nation's thumb in the future?
Geass is full of lots of fuckery you haven't read about, just watch it.Confession Time. I havent seen Code Geass yet, so you all spoiled the fuck out of it lol
I mean the issue is less about being under someone's thumb than being straight up killed off. You saw how the meeting between countries went, the best defense for eladians is one where they had nothing to do with their lot in life and its the islands fault and everyone on the island should be the ones they kill. Eren clearly walked out of there cause he saw no other options other than bloodshed, either done against him or by him.
Like what? I guarantee they are not realistic, but I'd like to hear your ideas.There are effective routes available to Paradis that doesn't involve genocide. It won't solve the problem for good in Eren's lifetime but they can make steady progress.
Like what? I guarantee they are not realistic, but I'd like to hear your ideas.
I really can't think of much. In this fictional world they have no out really.
In Eren's eyes it's literally kill or be killed. He listened, he watched and all it did was show him that the world literally wants the people of Paradis wiped out for the worst of reasons. And it's not like they'd stop there, they'd probably stop keeping Eldians in concentration camps and straight up genocide the rest of them after they're done with the Islanders.
What other way is there but to fight back?
Was not my intent, and there's seriously no need for name calling.
Your idea involves fueling the very cycle that got the Eldians into this mess. That doesn't solve anything and it makes the rest of the world realize that they really need to fucking waste the Eldians with their soon-superior military technology. The Eldians simply can't be allowed to exist if they can romper stomp any country whenever they see fit.Anyways, you can use part of the Rumbling to crush Marley. If you can kill everyone in the world then you can defeat Marley with much less effort. You free the Eldians on Marleyan soil and give them the choice to live with you or with Marley, take back a substantial piece of land, forge peace at the end of a gun and then take the extra time to (a) continue efforts to industrialize your country (2) gain allies with diplomatic overtures and try to ally with Marley's natural enemies(3) exploit your resource rich island to begin trade relations with other countries (4) Force Marley to hand over all the titans to you.
They have the power to vassalize Marley if they wanted to.
Who said you can't fight back? There's a difference between Iraq fighting Iran to forge peace and Iraq fighting Iran then killing every Iranian to make sure they never threaten you again.
Your idea involves fueling the very cycle that got the Eldians into this mess
That doesn't solve anything and it makes the rest of the world realize that they really need to fucking waste the Eldians with their soon-superior military technology.
The Eldians simply can't be allowed to exist if they can romper stomp any country whenever they see fit.
If Eren's goals are what they seem, sure, but the idea is that his tribe are the seed for people to grow and populate the Earth from. What matters is he will have killed the cycle, whether you agree or not with his methods. There will not be new conflicts for the rest of his life. Call it selfish(because it IS), but this sort of scorched earth policy is quite literally the only natural way for sustainable peace while him and his family and friends are still alive. Thing is, the colossals can never truly exterminate all life on Earth. People elsewhere will survive, possibly underground, and Eren has to call the WMDs off at some point in order for the future Earth to be fertile for his descendants. What matters is that nations and their grudges will die, even if humans beyond Eldians do survive.Because like them, Eren's concern isn't people, it's his tribe. Don't you agree?
If Eren's goals are what they seem, sure, but the idea is that his tribe are the seed for people to grow and populate the Earth from. What matters is he will have killed the cycle, whether you agree or not with his methods. There will not be new conflicts for the rest of his life. Call it selfish(because it IS), but this sort of scorched earth policy is quite literally the only natural way for sustainable peace while him and his family and friends are still alive. Thing is, the colossals can never truly exterminate all life on Earth. People elsewhere will survive, possibly underground, and Eren has to call the WMDs off at some point in order for the future Earth to be fertile for his descendants. What matters is that nations and their grudges will die, even if humans beyond Eldians do survive.
I don't think Isayama is pro-fascism because Eren is clearly the villain right now(if his agenda holds true).Proving my original point from many pages back that the story's message is a fascist message. The way to eternal peace for your community is by killing every other community/ethnicity/race that isn't yours. Did Himmler write this story?
Bolded part is just you assuming something to try to lessen the blow.
I don't think Isayama is pro-fascism because Eren is clearly the villain right now(if his agenda holds true).
The protagonists are the other Eldians who do. not. want. this. I think it's way premature to be judging the message of the story, to be honest.
There's zero conflict left in the manga if that's the case. We already see Armin and Mikasa are fucking shook by Eren's decision. Sorry but this take is dead wrong and really weird, man.Just look at how Pixis is portrayed.
Hell, Erwin Smith is apparently based on Erwin Rommel according to some people who have read the Japanese guidebook.
Eren's probably going to end the story glorified by the people of Paradis and potentially with his kid as Historia's heir to rule over the world.
You want the story to be fascist and Isayama a japanese nationalist so bad that it's hilarious, specially considering that EVERYTHING points to the other way.
You have to do some serious mental gymnastics to twist it this way, why?
June was also when South Koreans (some fans of the manga and anime, some not?) discovered a post on Isayama's official blog from 2010 where he said the character Dot Pixis was based on historical figure Yoshifuru Akiyama, who Isayama called frugal and respectable. Because Akiyama was a general of the Imperial Japanese Army who contributed to the colonization of Korea and the commander of the army stationed in Korea under Japanese occupation, Koreans commented on the post in disgust and anger that Isayama would admire someone considered a war criminal, going as far as death treats.
There's zero conflict left in the manga if that's the case. We already see Armin and Mikasa are fucking shook by Eren's decision. Sorry but this take is dead wrong and really weird, man.
Why does this sound like you want them to turn into Israel?Don't be an asshole.
Anyways, you can use part of the Rumbling to crush Marley. If you can kill everyone in the world then you can defeat Marley with much less effort. You free the Eldians on Marleyan soil and give them the choice to live with you or with Marley, take back a substantial piece of land, forge peace at the end of a gun and then take the extra time to (a) continue efforts to industrialize your country (2) gain allies with diplomatic overtures and try to ally with Marley's natural enemies(3) exploit your resource rich island to begin trade relations with other countries (4) Force Marley to hand over all the titans to you.
They even have the power to vassalize Marley if they wanted to.
Who said you can't fight back? There's a difference between Iraq fighting Iran to forge peace and Iraq fighting Iran then killing every Iranian to make sure they never threaten you again.
I wouldn't exactly strive for US global politics to be honest. We have secretly toppled so many properly operating governments to prop up a puppet regime and expand capitalism and "democracy" that it's not even funny. Also US of A is built on genocide so yeah, not really a good alternative.I was thinking more like the US where you're the big dog of the playground.
Not what I want but just saying that there are other routes there besides genocide.
People here are trying to justify Eren too much.
I wouldn't exactly strive for US global politics to be honest. We have secretly toppled so many properly operating governments to prop up a puppet regime and expand capitalism and "democracy" that it's not even funny. Also US of A is built on genocide so yeah, not really a good alternative.
Let's start with the the truth first, there's absolutely no connection between Erwin and Erwin Rommel, just people like you trying to make a connection to fill an agenda, an agenda that makes no sense considering how the story has been going for 123 chapters, even Pixis as a character in the manga did nothing even close to what you're looking for.I mean he's glorified both a Nazi general and an Imperial Japanese general. Both war criminals.
There was an outrage about it.
I mean if Keanu Reeves said that Harvey Weinstein was a good and respectable man, wouldn't you think something is up?
If there's only 3 chapters left, I think this might be it with no real twistsstart for the truth first
there's absolutely no