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Feb 9, 2018
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Damn. I'm late.

Well, even if it isn't counted, I still want to put down my predictions:

[NSW] 300k
[PS4] 130k
[XB1] 50k

Wasn't sure what to choose for the XBO, considering the absolute lack of stock in July. I just chose somewhere in between last month and what a more "normal" YoY drop would be in a console's replacement year (~40%).
 
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donny2112

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Oct 27, 2017
620
What are thoughts on Xbox All Access?

Since NPD reports on HW gross spend AKA point-of-sale revenue, how will they report on XB performance? Can we expect more insight on unit sales or are we in for a generation of Sony leading every month on a criteria technicality?
The monthly payoff plan? Pretty sure that'll count as a full price sale in the first month for NPD. Would imagine the customer's monthly payment would not be counted monthly. NPD tracks point-of-sale data, and that wouldn't be POS. My thoughts on it, anyways.
 

m051293

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,658
if xbox leads in sales, they will let us know.

I look forward to over-analyzing their statements though lol.

The monthly payoff plan? Pretty sure that'll count as a full price sale in the first month for NPD. Would imagine the customer's monthly payment would not be counted monthly. NPD tracks point-of-sale data, and that wouldn't be POS. My thoughts on it, anyways.

Yeah that's what I am wondering. NPD's goal is to track the revenue that the retailer records - in this case, how much does the retailer record if they're selling a payment plan? Wouldn't that affect the HW rankings that are revenue/spend driven?
 

Xevross

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Oct 28, 2017
2,048
Switch is so variable, lol. Looks like it blew past all our predictions this time.



That's Switch >482k. Pretty nice of Mat to give us some unit sales info.
 

m051293

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Oct 29, 2017
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Wii 2008 was 453,000 @ $249.99

NSW 2019 was 237,500 @ $299.99

So NSW 2020 is > 475,000 since Mat says "more than doubled".

Monster month, looks like stock is making its way back after tapering off in Jun/Jul. That's a weekly average of >118,750. Bodes well for a near-record September (Wii 08 at 687K is the highest).
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
41,037
Yeah if anyone had any illusions that demand was fading in the US this clearly shows that July's numbers were down to lower stock, and not demand.
 

Xevross

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Oct 28, 2017
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Wii 2008 was 453,000 @ $249.99

NSW 2019 was 237,500 @ $299.99

So NSW 2020 is > 475,000 since Mat says "more than doubled".

Monster month, looks like stock is making its way back. That's a weekly average of >118,750. Bodes well for a near-record September (Wii 08 at 687K is the highest).

Yeah it means we have a good lower bound for switch sales since he actually specified unit sales this time.

I'm not sure it does really, stock situation for Switch is fluctuating a lot, for all we know September could drop from this.
 

m051293

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Oct 29, 2017
1,658
Yeah it means we have a good lower bound for switch sales since he actually specified unit sales this time.

I'm not sure it does really, stock situation for Switch is fluctuating a lot, for all we know September could drop from this.

I think they'll have a large shipment for both end of Quarter and Mario 3D All Stars.
 

Tbone5189

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Mar 25, 2020
4,919
Yeah it means we have a good lower bound for switch sales since he actually specified unit sales this time.

I'm not sure it does really, stock situation for Switch is fluctuating a lot, for all we know September could drop from this.

MRio 3D collection. I bet they will have a lot of stock in the next 2 weeks
 

Xevross

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Oct 28, 2017
2,048
Switch is unstoppable and has yet to encounter its first holiday season in post-Animal Crossing world.
Yeah its gonna be interesting to see if Switch can continue to sell everything it ships all the way through the holiday period. If so we're gonna see some really nuts sales figures. Switch is already at 4.2 million for the year in the US.
 

Lelouch0612

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Oct 25, 2017
21,200


Wii 2008 was 453,000 @ $249.99

NSW 2019 was 237,500 @ $299.99

So NSW 2020 is > 475,000 since Mat says "more than doubled".

Monster month, looks like stock is making its way back after tapering off in Jun/Jul. That's a weekly average of >118,750. Bodes well for a near-record September (Wii 08 at 687K is the highest).

I have NSW 2019 at 241k
 

m051293

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Oct 29, 2017
1,658
NSW 8 month tally is in line with 08 NDS/Wii and (NSW 4.26M, NDS 4.3M, Wii 4.4M), but behind 09 NDS (5.2M).

10M total is going to be a close one this year I think.
 

m051293

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Oct 29, 2017
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What kind of unit sales could ACNH be doing right now? Last month I think I estimated 200-300K which translated to 500-750K total (est digital at 60%), which if true validated the NSW HW shortage (that's a much higher attach ratio than Japan...in month 5). Seems like the August result may be similar.
 

Welfare

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Oct 26, 2017
5,914
Switch up +109%, PS4 -1%, Xbox -50% (all unit terms).

TLOU2 didn't do well in August. About 34k units (only have physical) in August.
Madden 305k, Animal Crossing at 179k, Mario Kart 8 130k, Ghosts of Tsushima 122k, GTA V 108k, those are the titles above 100k units, Paper Mario at 78k.
NSW: 504K
PS4: 197K
XB1: 45K
 

IronTed

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Jun 6, 2019
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I didn't predict but everything did more than I expected. Switch is going mental and there is little doubt now that it will be the highest year for a system since 2009.
 

m051293

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Oct 29, 2017
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HW still supply constrained, including NSW, but its inventory was better this month.



There was a tweet with Mat saying ~3.5M shipped expected for US Nov/Dec. So probably ~1.5M Nov/Dec sales.
 

DarkDetective

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Oct 25, 2017
4,906
The Netherlands
PS4 and Xbox One both sold slightly below 2 million units in Nov+Dec 2013. That's what I expect for the PS5 and Xbox Series as well this coming holiday season. If stock is there, Xbox could even be a bit higher thanks to the Series S imo.
 

Welfare

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Oct 26, 2017
5,914
I'm willing to just put 2.5M for both XBS and PS5 in November and see what fate has in store for me.
 

Lelouch0612

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Oct 25, 2017
21,200
I think Xbox should have more units ready in the US as it is a more important market for them. Sony's shipments will be more spreadout.
 

Welfare

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Oct 26, 2017
5,914
Lol that would be quite the strategy. In reality though we might get some PR before we have to predict which makes this a lot easier.
I'm expecting both platforms to report at least 1M in first 24 hours for the US. PS4 almost did that but it was 1M in NA.

What I'm wondering though is how Xbox is going about Series X and S. Will both ship 1M each for day 1 to make sure as many people as possible get in on both, and then shipments become 70:30 S:X?
 

Xevross

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Oct 28, 2017
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I'm expecting both platforms to report at least 1M in first 24 hours for the US. PS4 almost did that but it was 1M in NA.

What I'm wondering though is how Xbox is going about Series X and S. Will both ship 1M each for day 1 to make sure as many people as possible get in on both, and then shipments become 70:30 S:X?
Yeah its a real weird one, I guess MS have ways of judging the relative demand of each but its up to them how much to ship day one. Perhaps they prioritise whichever one will be more profitable for them, as people preordering will just be desperate for an xbox console day one.
 

shark97

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Nov 7, 2017
5,327
I'm expecting both platforms to report at least 1M in first 24 hours for the US. PS4 almost did that but it was 1M in NA.

What I'm wondering though is how Xbox is going about Series X and S. Will both ship 1M each for day 1 to make sure as many people as possible get in on both, and then shipments become 70:30 S:X?


Almost every online poll (era, twitter) I've seen over 80% are choosing the Series X, not S between the two.

Sure you can say that's the core, but I'd argue Xbox/Ps literally is the core, Switch more to the casual.
 
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donny2112

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Oct 27, 2017
620
ResetERA Aggregate Predictions - Aug-2020

1. NSW - 354K (stddev: 32K)
2. PS4 - 126K (stddev: 21K)
3. XB1 - 23K (stddev: 10K)

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NSW: 504K
PS4: 197K
XB1: 45K

Thanks, Dolorean and Welfare! Going with nearest 5K for prediction results per usual ...

NPD Prediction Results - August 2020

Units

1. Welfare - 154,000
2. Limabean01 - 164,000
3. Andromeda - 185,000
4. Lelouch0612 - 188,000
5. Kaveri - 191,000
6. P Diddy - 195,000
7. Hammer24 - 204,000
7. Jeean - 204,000
9. jroc74 - 205,000
10. Zedark - 221,000
11. TurnoftheCentury - 240,000
12. RyngΓäó - 245,000
13. Sangetsu-II - 246,000
14. Sterok - 253,000
14. donny2112 - 253,000
16. pitseleh - 254,000
17. Myriotes - 256,000
17. Xevross - 256,000
17. brykuhn91 - 256,000
20. Darth Smurf X - 259,000
21. NPTinker - 265,000
22. Peek-a-boo! - 266,000
23. Corporate Clown - 270,000
24. GamingCJ - 275,000
25. slavesnyder - 283,000
26. esteh - 284,000
27. julian - 285,000
28. El Manco - 288,000
29. Pachter - 300,000
30. Tbone5189 - 372,000


Points
Code:
     August 2020                     Overall 2020 Top (7/8)
01.  Welfare                103.96   Welfare                  635.77
02.  Limabean01             102.09   Hammer24                 623.48
03.  Kaveri                  98.83   slavesnyder              618.97
04.  Lelouch0612             94.37   Lelouch0612              607.18
05.  Andromeda               91.40   Jeean                    605.99
06.  Jeean                   91.12   RyngΓäó                  604.26
07.  Hammer24                81.25   Sterok                   602.65
08.  TurnoftheCentury        78.49   julian                   596.56
09.  Xevross                 77.45   Kaveri                   588.29
10.  Zedark                  76.85   Myriotes                 580.93
11.  Sangetsu-II             74.35   Zedark                   573.67
12.  jroc74                  73.73   jroc74                   570.93
13.  P Diddy                 73.49   donny2112                566.10
14.  RyngΓäó                 72.99   Peek-a-boo!              565.37
15.  NPTinker                72.42   Corporate Clown          561.35
16.  donny2112               71.92   Darth Smurf X            554.38
17.  pitseleh                71.79   Xevross                  553.22
18.  Myriotes                69.35   El Manco                 549.75
19.  brykuhn91               67.85   IronTed                  547.20
20.  slavesnyder             67.83   SinCItyAssassin          543.73
21.  GamingCJ                67.11   James                    531.58
22.  Sterok                  66.54   pitseleh                 527.89
23.  El Manco                65.47   TurnoftheCentury         514.97
24.  Corporate Clown         64.59   Pachter                  504.85
25.  Peek-a-boo!             63.66   KillerMan91              498.20
26.  Darth Smurf X           62.62   Astrogamer               484.08
27.  Pachter                 60.29   Limabean01               456.32
28.  julian                  59.70   Slarvax                  434.68
29.  esteh                   58.34   Tbone5189                433.29
30.  Tbone5189               46.07   wilmbreak                432.76
31.                                  Fintendo                 413.13
32.                                  DarkDetective            327.50
33.                                  skittzo0413              318.83
34.                                  GamingCJ                 290.21
35.                                  BitchPudding             251.68
36.                                  Aleh                     251.58
37.                                  WestEgg                  220.91
38.                                  Piston                   195.74
39.                                  neroxyr                  191.53
40.                                  Bitch Pudding            186.03
41.                                  P Diddy                  185.32
42.                                  iag                      156.97
43.                                  CosmicBolt               149.83
44.                                  NPTinker                 148.56
45.                                  Menx64                   147.81
46.                                  Tialo                    141.47
47.                                  srtrestre                127.90
48.                                  score01                  107.00
49.                                  Juryvicious              103.39
50.                                  mrfusticle                97.88

Congratulations, Welfare! :D
 

Welfare

Prophet of Truth - You’re my Numberwall
Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,914
I'm glad to see these new reliable polls have me leading again, I've always been leading, leading against awful awful people like sickle and Hammer24, jokester slavesnyder, and radical leader Lelouch0612, who still hasn't denied Geass as a Chinese tool of Satan.

:) I thought PS4 would kill me, glad I'm first again