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AusPoliERA |OT| Section 44’d straight to Manus Island
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I don't remember what she first said that tipped me off but Leigh Sales is complete trash and has been for ages. Not surprised to see her being all "we have to listen to the white nationalists!" Especially after the ABC has been giving Bannon a sloppy blowjob on 4 Corners.
Bannon doesn't have any insight to Australia. His commentary is laughably shallow. He doesn't even understand America, he couldn't beat a Democrat in Alabama.
Australian media is just so fucking ordinary they get excited whenever anybody makes the plane ride. We're having Milo back for fuck's sake.
Australian media is just so fucking ordinary they get excited whenever anybody makes the plane ride. We're having Milo back for fuck's sake.
It's good to know a white ethnostate is a less dangerous idea than questioning Western Imperialism.
This is a pretty fascinating story out of Queensland state politics.
KAP considers going to CCC after staff cut
Chatting to the staunch Labor guy in the office yesterday and his opinion was that she shouldn't have done it considering it was a deal struck well before Anning was even in Parliament and he wasn't a member of KAP when the deal was struck. Also, Anning is a Federal Senator and this is state politics.
On the other hand, we both agreed that Anning is a reprehensible prick and has no place in Australian politics or civilised society in general.
It will be interesting to see what happens if they do refer it to the CCC.
Normally I would say if you have Terry O'Gorman on your side, you're probably wrong, but in this case, he might be right.
KAP considers going to CCC after staff cut
Chatting to the staunch Labor guy in the office yesterday and his opinion was that she shouldn't have done it considering it was a deal struck well before Anning was even in Parliament and he wasn't a member of KAP when the deal was struck. Also, Anning is a Federal Senator and this is state politics.
On the other hand, we both agreed that Anning is a reprehensible prick and has no place in Australian politics or civilised society in general.
It will be interesting to see what happens if they do refer it to the CCC.
Normally I would say if you have Terry O'Gorman on your side, you're probably wrong, but in this case, he might be right.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...roman-quaedvlieg-border-force-chief-help-mate
Guy who got chucked out for getting his girlfriend favourable treatment is gonna take his former boss down for getting his mate favourable treatment.
Almost poetic isn't it.
Guy who got chucked out for getting his girlfriend favourable treatment is gonna take his former boss down for getting his mate favourable treatment.
Almost poetic isn't it.
I'm just imagining Malcolm in New York laughing like Mr. Burns thinking of that crippled Irishman.
Oh it's not as bad as all that, the country is in pragmatic, sensible hands as our new PM
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The MSM worldwide is a disgrace. Kowtowing to nazis while loathing anyone who dares to oppose the lib consensus. God, such an embarrassment
Ideology is *kisses lips* pure
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Ideology is *kisses lips* pure
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Considering Morrison isn't completely against praying the gay away, I dunno what you expected. Tony Abbott might dislike same sex relationships but I really doubt even he believes in that bullshit.
While no Republican should ever lose in Alabama, Roy Moore got really damn close to winning despite being a pedophile. White Alabamans were predictably trash and overwhelmingly voted for the pedophile. It was entirely off the backs of pissed black people, particularly pissed black women, that Doug Jones got the turnout required to narrowly beat Moore. Bannon didn't exactly bet wrong - white people in Republican states as a voting block always vote for the most awful things - but I don't think he expected black and younger people actually turning out and voting.
Bannon and his goons are trying to push the Overton Window so far right that the discussing the concept of white ethnostates is no longer a serious problem for right leaning voters. Bannon isn't around anymore but Stephen Miller absolutely is and he's slowly being proven right by how the child separation policy is no longer a thing being discussed. That's just one example, American conservatives are putting out more and more consistently trash opinions as a whole.
So while Bannon doesn't have any insight to Australia, it doesn't really matter. He just wants us to be talking about these issues as if the far right opinion is valid. The fact our media is letting him do this and defending it as mere "debating of ideas" is pathetic at best.
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Problem is Bannon picked to get involved with Roy Moore specifically lol. It would have been a lay up with anybody else.
You're right though Stephen Miller is way more dangerous, specifically because he doesn't seem to have Bannon's ego and is content operating silently.
We'll see if Senator Gichuhi makes good on her promise to name them next week under Parliamentary Privilege. Doesn't take much guessing though; Hastie, Pasin, Seselja, Sukkar, etc
You're right though Stephen Miller is way more dangerous, specifically because he doesn't seem to have Bannon's ego and is content operating silently.
We'll see if Senator Gichuhi makes good on her promise to name them next week under Parliamentary Privilege. Doesn't take much guessing though; Hastie, Pasin, Seselja, Sukkar, etc
While I agree its fair for people to dunk on Bannon/Moore for the loss, its was a great litmus test to see how just how much awful Republican voters can tolerate. Despite Doug Jones having a pretty solid reputation, 72% of white men and 63% of white women broke for a candidate like Roy Moore. Its no surprise that a lot of Republicans are practically running on white supremacist platforms now, it works well enough with their base and they can definitely win if they limit minority turnout.
James Pattison's name also floating around as one of the bullies, though he has actively denied it.
The problem with Australian media sucking up to foreign far-right voices is, IM generally terribly malformed O, something that stems from Australia being not much more than a speed bump on the world stage, be it due to population or other factors, so any kind of attention from someone with international influence is lapped up greedily.
And, as mentioned ages ago, we as a mass of people on the whole gravitate toward centrism. I can't think of a good YouTube analogy, but we're not full fence sitting Boogie.
And, as mentioned ages ago, we as a mass of people on the whole gravitate toward centrism. I can't think of a good YouTube analogy, but we're not full fence sitting Boogie.
We interviewed Chelsea Manning. It didn't go as planned.
JJJ's Hack program interviewed Chelsea Manning with some interesting results.
It's a legitimate question to ask and just because the leak probably led to some good results doesn't mean she gets a free pass from the media.
JJJ's Hack program interviewed Chelsea Manning with some interesting results.
Seems like a reasonable question to me. But on the other hand, as someone who works in Media and Comms, I totally understand why they cut the interview off. Doesn't make it right though.
It's a legitimate question to ask and just because the leak probably led to some good results doesn't mean she gets a free pass from the media.
Given how stage managed the interview seemed to be one would've thought that both parties would have cleared beforehand what is or isn't part of the legal minefield that is discussing the actions of someone pardoned for releasing classified material.
Bring back "Lord" "Monckton".
Doesn't seem that there was any "legal" issues with the question, but rather a "respect" issue.
Seems like bad PR management to me. Like you said, if there were going to any questions that were off the table, then they should have been clarified and specified prior to the interview.
Holy shit the Liberals have lost the safe NSW seat of Wagga Wagga in a 29% swing against them!
It is state politics and there was a local corruption issue, but it's another sign that the next Federal election and NSW state election are likely to be apocalyptic for the Coalition.
Berejiklian is blaming the Federal branch, but the MP there having to quit Amin's corruption allegations is probably a factor.
It is state politics and there was a local corruption issue, but it's another sign that the next Federal election and NSW state election are likely to be apocalyptic for the Coalition.
Berejiklian is blaming the Federal branch, but the MP there having to quit Amin's corruption allegations is probably a factor.
I think we won't see the date for the Wentworth by-election anytime soon...
Preferred PM atm the moment is really only a measure of what people know about the respective leaders. The electorate is already settled on Shorten but still learning about Morrison. He could easily lose 9 points in two weeks if Parliament goes badly and they still refuse to answer what the change was all about. The approve/disapprove also jumped around for both dramatically. Relative personal unpopularity won't stop shorten winning 25-35 seats at the next election.
Speaking of Mark Latham, is he officially One Nation now?
Kinda got lost in the Canberra version of The Hunger Games.
Oh who the fuck knows. He's also flirting with the Shooters Party. At some point he'll probably try to join the Nationals to get political party bingo.
It gets over emphasized in the Westminster system honestly. It's clearly secondary to how people feel about the parties themselves.
I don't know about that. There are plenty of people out there who are completely convinced they vote directly for the PM.
I also think it becomes a factor closer to election times when so much of the attention gets focused on the leaders.
If Morrison continues to lead Shorten, you'll see the two party preferred start to tighten up as we move closer to election time.
No surprise here. The coup lasted for nearly that long! ;)
I don't think they need to change too much policy wise. Obviously they need to sort out electricity and climate, but I think the general population were warming to many of the policies.
Here's the real problem for them though, and particularly those who led the challenge, the polls were coming along nicely for Turnbull prior to all this garbage and he was on track to pull level by now. They have set themselves back months for a sum total of not much in the way of change outside of the leader.
I'm still in the fence about whether they get my vote or not because I'm waiting to see what they are all about. If Morrison thinks he can go all Pentecostal and keep my vote, he's got another thing coming. Also, if they decide to veer too far right, they will have lost me too.
Either way, things will be interesting.
That's what I meant by sort out...they actually need one.
They need to come up with something that doesn't look like it was written by the coal industry though, or they will be straight up abandoning the middle to pander to the crazies. They also need to be clearer on climate change, because they can't be seen as just buying their heads in the sand on the issue.
Like I've said since this whole mess started, they can't count on my vote anymore and that goes for most people I know who sit closer to the middle. Morrison needs to show that he's not beholden to the far right crazies.