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Jintor

Saw the truth behind the copied door
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Oct 25, 2017
32,427
it is one of those trap language things where if you vote against it somewhere along the way idiots will say 'they voted that it WASN'T okay to be white'.

but those people are fucking idiots anyway
 

danm999

Member
Oct 29, 2017
17,132
Sydney
Matthias Cormann says the vote was an administrative error.

Which doesn't explain why several Senators tweeted out support of the motion immediately afterwards but if you believe that excuse you probably don't have critical thinking skills.
 

Jintor

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Oct 25, 2017
32,427
morrison's 'we're just opening up discussion' is a politer version of 'just asking questions' tbh
 

lint2015

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Oct 27, 2017
2,811

LOL, no.

Either your party supports white supremacy, or it fails to do its due diligence on researching motions going up for a vote (and you probably have at least one white supremacist on your staff). I mean, you knobs are elected and paid to research shit and then vote on things on behalf of the people. That's your fucking job.

As I understand it, both Hinch and Di Natale mentioned to the chamber that the wording was gross and basically white supremacist speech. It's not hard for your senators to listen and think "Waaait a minute... this might not be a good idea coming from Pauline Hanson" no matter what the party line may have been.

I find this bit particularly hilarious and sad:
Among those who voted in support was the parliament's first African senator, the South Australian Liberal senator Lucy Gichuhi. Senator Gichuhi, who has recently complained of being bullied by male Liberals, did not respond to Fairfax Media's request for comment about why she voted in favour of the motion.
 

viciouskillersquirrel

Cheering your loss
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Oct 25, 2017
2,874
LOL, no.

Either your party supports white supremacy, or it fails to do its due diligence on researching motions going up for a vote (and you probably have at least one white supremacist on your staff). I mean, you knobs are elected and paid to research shit and then vote on things on behalf of the people. That's your fucking job.

As I understand it, both Hinch and Di Natale mentioned to the chamber that the wording was gross and basically white supremacist speech. It's not hard for your senators to listen and think "Waaait a minute... this might not be a good idea coming from Pauline Hanson" no matter what the party line may have been.

I find this bit particularly hilarious and sad:
To be charitable to her, Lucy Gichuhi is Kenyan born and I think this may have given her a different perspective on it than your average Hansonite. Racism in British colonial Africa has historically been quite open and explicit rather than coded and covert as it is in the US and Australia. It's also associated with horrific violence and, at times, ethnic cleansing. She may see a repudiation of racism of any sort as her duty or may be unfamiliar with American white supremacism (which Australian White supremacism takes a lot of cues from) and would therefore not have recognised the dog whistles for what they were.

She is otherwise a very conservative politician however, so it's also possible the people she had in her circle (and constituency) are in favour of this sort of thing.
 
Oct 28, 2017
4,970
It's almost like Cormann has intentionally sabotaged his political career over the past few months.

They're purposely trying to shift Australia's right to be more closely aligned to the US Republican Party. This shit looks like amateur hour but the Republican base and a lot of independents doesn't give a shit because they want to believe that there's an existential threat to their white existence. They want our voting independents to be as trash as the US voting independents. The only reason Republicans might lose the House and maybe even the Senate is because they're actively pissing off women, they'd probably be winning seats if Donald Trump and other Republicans weren't going out of their way to support sexual assault.

The isolated Facebook attack ads from LNP affiliated community groups that go "LABOR wants to kill white people" write themselves. We've already got shitty Weibo and Wechat anti-safe schools attack ads, this sort of white supremacy garbage isn't too far away from being mainstream.

It's pretty obvious that's what they're going for, Morrison being a pentecostal Hillsong supporting tool would love to shift the Overton Window so far right that he could support kicking out gay children from schools ("religious freedoms") without impacting the Australia political undecided. The only problem for the LNP right now is that I don't think Australia is white enough, holds enough racial resentment for minorities or religious enough for this strategy to work nationally.
 
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viciouskillersquirrel

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Oct 25, 2017
2,874
They're purposely trying to shift Australia's right to be more closely aligned to the US Republican Party. This shit looks like amateur hour but the Republican base and a lot of independents doesn't give a shit because they want to believe that there's an existential threat to their white existence. They want our voting independents to be as trash as the US voting independents. The only reason Republicans might lose the House and maybe even the Senate is because they're actively pissing off women, they'd probably be winning seats if Donald Trump and other Republicans weren't going out of their way to support sexual assault.

The isolated Facebook attack ads from LNP affiliated community groups that go "LABOR wants to kill white people" write themselves. We've already got shitty Weibo and Wechat anti-safe schools attack ads, this sort of white supremacy garbage isn't too far away from being mainstream.

It's pretty obvious that's what they're going for, Morrison being a pentecostal Hillsong supporting tool would love to shift the Overton Window so far right that he could support kicking out gay children from schools ("religious freedoms") without impacting the Australia political undecided. The only problem for the LNP right now is that I don't think Australia is white enough, holds enough racial resentment for minorities or religious enough for this strategy to work nationally.
Demographically, Australia is much, much whiter than the US. We just don't have the history of slavery, the racial consciousness or the racial resentment that comes with it.

Leaning on religion like the Republicans do is most definitely a vote loser here, but the racist strategy could most certainly make big inroads given enough of a push. Don't get it twisted, things could get ugly.
 

GestaltGaz

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Oct 28, 2017
1,996
Bumbling keystone cops the coalition. From one scandal to the next. They are unfit to govern and grasping at anything on they way down.

Shifting foreign policy on something as major as Israel/Palestine to the shock of the competent international community, our closest neighbour and largest population Muslim state about to sign a trade deal, to maybe shore up a few votes for a by-election? After voting for a white supremacist motion in the senate?

What the fuck are they doing?
 

Mr. Pointy

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Oct 28, 2017
5,141
Hmmmmmm... Move the consulate to Jerusalem because Jesus and piss off our nearest neighbour, all the cattle farmers and by extension the Nationals... Or don't.

Someone was clearly thinking this through.
 

viciouskillersquirrel

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Oct 25, 2017
2,874
Hmmmmmm... Move the consulate to Jerusalem because Jesus, or piss off our nearest neighbour, all the cattle farmers and by extension the Nationals...

Someone was clearly thinking this through.
Pentecostals aren't even pro-Israel for the sake of Israelis. They're pro-Israel because a Jewish nation state of Israel has to exist in order for their reading of Revelations to make sense. What happens in their vision of the end times? Every Jew who hasn't converted to Christianity gets killed in a literal fiery apocalypse.

This preoccupation with the end times is creepy, anti-Semitic and doesn't make internal logical sense anyway. The whole point of prophecy within their worldview is that later generations can look back on the then-cryptic now-clear words, see that God or his prophets/apostles totally called it and they will therefore give glory to God. What it specifically isn't for is so that pre-fulfilment generations will know the future. There are multiple biblical verses that spell this out.

Not only that, but hoping and preparing for fiery death to arrive instead of focusing on charity, good works and improving the moral character of Christians is not only counter-productive, it's also a dereliction of duty. Ugh. Makes me sick.

Meanwhile, the actual state of Israel is more than happy to exploit this fascination in order to support and sustain its long-standing policies of apartheid and oppression.
 

danm999

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Oct 29, 2017
17,132
Sydney
Internal polling for Wentworth must be dire if they'd jeopardise the Indonesian free trade agreement.

A week ago I expected them to win handily but now...
 

ThatWasAJoke

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Oct 28, 2017
2,373
Wentworth is absolute full of Jews, many of them nutters, who will salivate at the prospect of the embassy being moved. Many of these guys also are swing voters cos of climate change and jews are generally more left-wing so it could be a ploy

(I know this because I used to be one, not a nut but the rest)
 

choodi

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,589
Australia
Leaked internal polling says Phelps is ahead 55-45.
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Mr. Pointy

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Oct 28, 2017
5,141
I like to imagine someone in the Liberal party is putting serious thought into starting another spill to install Josh Frydenberg as PM.
 

choodi

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Oct 27, 2017
1,589
Australia


God they aren't seriously going to lose Wentworth are they?

Yes, they are and they should. You can't shaft a PM for no good reason and then expect the people in his former electorate to vote for you. Simple. Of all the people in Australia who should be offended at what the libs did, the people of Wentworth should be the most angry.
 

danm999

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Oct 29, 2017
17,132
Sydney
Congrats to Queensland for decriminisalising abortion. You have officially handed the title for most reactionary state to NSW.
 

Spectone

Member
They're purposely trying to shift Australia's right to be more closely aligned to the US Republican Party. This shit looks like amateur hour but the Republican base and a lot of independents doesn't give a shit because they want to believe that there's an existential threat to their white existence. They want our voting independents to be as trash as the US voting independents. The only reason Republicans might lose the House and maybe even the Senate is because they're actively pissing off women, they'd probably be winning seats if Donald Trump and other Republicans weren't going out of their way to support sexual assault.

The isolated Facebook attack ads from LNP affiliated community groups that go "LABOR wants to kill white people" write themselves. We've already got shitty Weibo and Wechat anti-safe schools attack ads, this sort of white supremacy garbage isn't too far away from being mainstream.

It's pretty obvious that's what they're going for, Morrison being a pentecostal Hillsong supporting tool would love to shift the Overton Window so far right that he could support kicking out gay children from schools ("religious freedoms") without impacting the Australia political undecided. The only problem for the LNP right now is that I don't think Australia is white enough, holds enough racial resentment for minorities or religious enough for this strategy to work nationally.


That's political suicide. It works for the Republicans because their broken voting system lets them increase the effect of their racist voters. You can't do that in Australia, you'll just lose election after election.
 

Aarglefarg

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Oct 27, 2017
4,067
There's a 27.3% swing against the Liberal party so far. Antony Green thinks he's minutes away from calling it.

Primary votes:
Liberal 37.7%
Labor 9.9%
Phelps 35.5%
Greens 10.1%
Other 6.8%

EDIT: and it's gotten 'worse':
Liberal 33.8%
Labor 10.9%
Phelps 37.6%
Greens 10.2%
Other 7.5%
 
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