Australia coronavirus discussion

Ozzy Onya A2Z

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Oct 28, 2017
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Like a few thousand face masks isn't even 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of what caused the situation to spiral to this point.

I supposed those hairdressers could use those mask now that they can do 30mins+ jobs.
700,000 hazmat suits across the world for example, you're oversimplifying for your own point. There's a difference between governments sending wilful help to another first incident country and China back channel repurposing a China government backed real estate developer world wide to buy up supplies from various countries e.g. Canada, Australia, Turkey etc. they knew what they were doing, just like underreporting of cases etc.
 

Antiwhippy

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Oct 25, 2017
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700,000 hazmat suits across the world for example, you're oversimplifying for your own point. There's a difference between governments sending wilful help to another first incident country and China back channel repurposing a China government backed real estate developer world wide to buy up supplies from various countries e.g. Canada, Australia, Turkey etc. they knew what they were doing, just like underreporting of cases etc.
Because they had a crisis then and those other countries did not.

Honestly silly playing the blame game especially in hindsight when really, you can also say that australia could also very well have avoided the situation of needing those masks in the first place through competent federal leadership.
 

Antiwhippy

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Oct 25, 2017
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190 additional cases in sydney now, with 2 of them being children aged 1 and 2 years old. Now 12,19 cases in the state.

VIctoria has their 3rd death.

I'd be surprised if both states remain in this half assed isolation measures by the end of today, much less this week.
 

언이라브

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Oct 27, 2017
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190 additional cases in sydney now, with 2 of them being children aged 1 and 2 years old. Now 12,19 cases in the state.

VIctoria has their 3rd death.

I'd be surprised if both states remain in this half assed isolation measures by the end of today, much less this week.
Andrews confirmed for a Stage 3 part but don’t know when he’s gonna announce it, probably tomorrow.
 

lint2015

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's only half a joke. Those ships sailed when things were bad enough that your parents should've known better.

Plus the disproportionate measures where the government banned all foreign arrivals from China when infection rates were <0.005% of the population at its peak versus say the Ruby Princess where they let everybody off and already >5% of the passengers have tested positive is truly a farce.
 

JasonV

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Oct 25, 2017
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The whole cruise debacle is so illustrative.

Tiny amount of poor brown people fleeing war torn countries - send the SAS!

Hundreds of rich white people on a literal plague ship - hey go wander around the CBD!
 

Russell

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Oct 27, 2017
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I guess on the plus side petrol prices are cheaper than ever, good for people who still have to drive to work I guess.
 

boredandlazy

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Oct 27, 2017
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Different possibilities being thrown around work to help prevent staff in my department being sacked. Including a 1 week on and 1 week off schedule. I'd be able to survive on that for a little while (assuming I cull a vast majority of personal spending) plus I guess it's better than working the same roster but getting less money.

Still sucks though.
 

언이라브

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Oct 27, 2017
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Different possibilities being thrown around work to help prevent staff in my department being sacked. Including a 1 week on and 1 week off schedule. I'd be able to survive on that for a little while (assuming I cull a vast majority of personal spending) plus I guess it's better than working the same roster but getting less money.

Still sucks though.
If it impacts you, I think you can apply for Jobseekers next month. I’ll look more into it.
 

Thordawgg

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Nov 5, 2017
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Oh man just found out my mum got kicked out of her place by her landlord. She works in the local hospital labs and rents a room from a family and they were worried she'd catch the coronavirus, they even had the gall to ask her to come back when this all blows over. She wanted to leave eventually and she works part time and spends a week each fortnight down the coast (2hrs away) with us but this sucks...
 

언이라브

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Oct 27, 2017
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Oh man just found out my mum got kicked out of her place by her landlord. She works in the local hospital labs and rents a room from a family and they were worried she'd catch the coronavirus, they even had the gall to ask her to come back when this all blows over. She wanted to leave eventually and she works part time and spends a week each fortnight down the coast (2hrs away) with us but this sucks...
What state or territory is she in?
 

laoni

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Oct 25, 2017
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5 new cases in Tasmania

Three of the cases are from Northern Tasmania, two are from the North-West.

One of the cases is aged in their 70s. Two are aged in their 30s, and two are children.
All of the cases were passengers aboard the Ovation of the Seas, which docked in Sydney on 18 March.
 

partyhat

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Nov 3, 2017
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I can't find a source for this.

Edit: also don't the eastern states go on holidays next week anyway?
Sorry should have clarified it was Queensland Government only. State schools still have one more week of school left. Education minister announced it this morning. Pupil free days for next weekbut essential workers can still send kids if required.

Source was me. There was no verifiable news source at the time.
 
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ninnanuam

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Nov 24, 2017
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It's only half a joke. Those ships sailed when things were bad enough that your parents should've known better.

Plus the disproportionate measures where the government banned all foreign arrivals from China when infection rates were <0.005% of the population at its peak versus say the Ruby Princess where they let everybody off and already >5% of the passengers have tested positive is truly a farce.
Apparently Rottnest is going to be used as a quarantine space for people disembarking from cruises in WA. It sounds far better than the sweaty hot box I'm spending my two weeks of isolation in.

Also today I called the hotline because I have a few symptoms, sore throat and a bit of a temperature mainly, and they told me to not to bother getting checked until I start having shortness of breath.

I'm isolating anyway, so right now that seems fine, especially as going to a place with other potential cases seems dumb but let's say I do have it, once my isolation period is up I'm not going to know if I'm contagious, if I'm still shedding, or if I'm clear.
 

rainz

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Nov 1, 2017
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1.5 Million people in my state in QLD still to vote tomorrow at the election in person.....
Did any other country do something so stupid?
 

laoni

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Oct 25, 2017
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Tasmania's Premier reiterated this morning that after the term break, schools will remain open for essential workers, and the advice is if you can keep your kids at home, do so
 

Ozzy Onya A2Z

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Oct 28, 2017
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Second Chinese developer found to have done the same thing

90 tonnes of medical supplies was sent to China and now Australia has a shortage
Countries and people are way too relaxed about China, complacency and ignorance are the words I would use to describe the power/land/ownership run China is and has been on for a long time now.

Speculation: there are more than just these two found thus far.

I'll just quote myself here again, this was relevant the first time I posted it -

There's a difference between governments sending wilful help to another first incident country and China back channel repurposing a China government backed real estate developer world wide to buy up supplies from various countries e.g. Canada, Australia, Turkey etc. they knew what they were doing, just like underreporting of cases etc.
There is also blame for our government's lack of duty to protect such required goods, of course there is, all the way back in JAN.

By late January medical experts
were worried about the lack of available masks. "The thing we need most as GPs is some masks," said Dr Harry Nespolon, president of the Royal Australian College of GPs. "They are not readily available."
Of course they're not looking out for stockpiles, hey we need massive military spending annually but basic medical stockpiles or a simple threshold of reserves are out of the question right? Muppets in power didn't learn anything from the old Anthrax scare days did they. Why not mobilise the reserves of military resources e.g. gas masks I'm sure they requisitioned in the last few years/decades to medical staff that need it right now.
 
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Nov 14, 2017
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Can't believe the Chinese government would act in the interests of the Chinese people and Australian for-profit medical supplies distributors would act in the interest of their bottom-lines. I guess this is just a side of the world you don't see unless you're privy to secret Chinese communication platforms like *checks article* LinkedIn.
 

laoni

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Oct 25, 2017
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Of course they're not looking out for stockpiles, hey we need massive military spending annually but basic medical stockpiles or a simple threshold of reserves are out of the question right? Muppets in power didn't learn anything from the old Anthrax scare days did they. Why not mobilise the reserves of military resources e.g. gas masks I'm sure they requisitioned in the last few years/decades to medical staff that need it right now.
Just to clarify on this last part, Australia -does- have a medical stockpile, we've been putting it together for over a decade. (Which is unlike most countries, who do not stockpile medical goods in case)


And, we've had to dip into it on mask supplies thanks to bushfires already this year.

 

Ozzy Onya A2Z

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Oct 28, 2017
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Just to clarify on this last part, Australia -does- have a medical stockpile, we've been putting it together for over a decade. (Which is unlike most countries, who do not stockpile medical goods in case)


And, we've had to dip into it on mask supplies thanks to bushfires already this year.

I'll happily eat crow whenever I'm wrong. Thank you for posting and I'm glad to hear there is some logical leadership going around.

EDIT: Let the China buy up continue as long as we're above our working threshold. I'd prefer China to be up front about what they're doing still, proper channels and all that.
 

GeoNeo

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Oct 26, 2017
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1.5 Million people in my state in QLD still to vote tomorrow at the election in person.....
Did any other country do something so stupid?

On ABC News they said Doctors now are also saying this is a disaster in the making. This is the most reckless, careless, bone headed move by any state government world wide.
 

SuperBanana

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Oct 28, 2017
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Looks like supermarkets will be limiting the number of people in their stores when lockdown hits. I'd recommend staying away for the next few days. They're expected to be absolutely fucked busy.
 

rainz

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Nov 1, 2017
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On ABC News they said Doctors now are also saying this is a disaster in the making. This is the most reckless, careless, bone headed move by any state government world wide.
My partner was just pre-voting today and said there was at least 80 people out the door in the que all right near each other. Tomorrow is going to be a disaster for sure.
 

laoni

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Oct 25, 2017
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Scomo's due to speak any minute now
 

Cow Mengde

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Oct 26, 2017
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It's still summer in Australia, right? I heard about viruses not surviving in hotter temps, but I wager if you guys are dealing with it, then chances of the virus going away by summer is next to none.
 

Scullibundo

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Oct 25, 2017
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So it seems my area (Waverley) has the highest concentration in the country. I'm not surprised.

I just went outside for some air, looked across the road and saw people all queued up together for fucking yoghurt.
 

the_id

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hello from New Zealand. We enjoying our lockdwon down here. Hope our brothers and sisters across the ditch can join us at our never ending Zoom meetings.
 

MTR

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Oct 27, 2017
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I can’t believe they are going ahead with voting in the QLD council election. It’s absolutely disgusting. The council is completely irrelevant at this time as well. The chief medical officer is even still supporting it despite it being completely dangerous and in violation of all current policy around social distancing. Journalists have not put anywhere near enough pressure. They will report it tomorrow when social media picks up all the queues but by then it will be too late and many will die.

I’m able to phone vote but they seemingly have disconnected the lines. I refuse to vote tomorrow and will likely just cop the fine. I’d rather pay that then get sick and potentially infect others.