Sounds like the major supermarket's workforce won't see anything from this. It'll likely fall on the employer to match the government's subsidy, which of course, they won't.
I mean, it's not people are getting a $1500 a fortnight salary bump. If the supermarkets are paying that much already why would they have to match a subsidy that they're not getting?
Except they aren't, a huge number of people are well under that job keepers number's a fortnight and will simply fall through the cracks and they have to expose themselves daily to the all the risks. At this point there is no incentive to work at all for these companies.
There's no reason.Really though all this just makes me wonder why we can't have wide-sweeping welfare systems like this in times of non-crisis.
Really though all this just makes me wonder why we can't have wide-sweeping welfare systems like this in times of non-crisis.
As in no reason to have one or no reason why there can't be one?
Except they aren't, a huge number of people are well under that job keepers number's a fortnight and will simply fall through the cracks and they have to expose themselves daily to the all the risks. At this point there is no incentive to work at all for these companies.
Oh ok, I understand the problem now. Yeah that sucks if that's the case.
I wonder if this stems enough job losses that people aren't desperate for the jobs offered by supermarkets that it will force their hands a bit in raising the wage. Wouldn't hold my breath though.
A friend who works in employment law estimates that roughly 80% of hospo businesses underpay or otherwise don't comply with awards, so it's probably not far off.
Sounds like a compliance and education problem more so than 9 out of 10 business owners willingly ripping staff. I'm sure there are 1-4 out of 10 that do that but I refuse to believe it's 9 out of 10 purposefully. Perhaps I'm too optimistic. Fucks me off as a business owner of 21 years this year, we battle like fuck for what we have too. Shithead employers and employees ruin it for everyone else giving it a fair go.
Sounds like a compliance and education problem more so than 9 out of 10 business owners willingly ripping staff. I'm sure there are 1-4 out of 10 that do that but I refuse to believe it's 9 out of 10 purposefully. Perhaps I'm too optimistic. Fucks me off as a business owner of 21 years this year, we battle like fuck for what we have too. Shithead employers and employees ruin it for everyone else giving it a fair go.
Sounds like a compliance and education problem more so than 9 out of 10 business owners willingly ripping staff. I'm sure there are 1-4 out of 10 that do that but I refuse to believe it's 9 out of 10 purposefully. Perhaps I'm too optimistic. Fucks me off as a business owner of 21 years this year, we battle like fuck for what we have too. Shithead employers and employees ruin it for everyone else giving it a fair go.
Well yes. But in terms of ability, there's no reason. We're perfectly capable of it as a nation.Yes there is. The LNP is ideologically opposed to any welfare that isn't corporate welfare. We've been gutting and brutalising the public sector for 30 years.
Well yes. But in terms of ability, there's no reason. We're perfectly capable of it as a nation.
This is huge.
Wonder how this applies to sole traders?
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Sounds like a compliance and education problem more so than 9 out of 10 business owners willingly ripping staff. I'm sure there are 1-4 out of 10 that do that but I refuse to believe it's 9 out of 10 purposefully. Perhaps I'm too optimistic. Fucks me off as a business owner of 21 years this year, we battle like fuck for what we have too. Shithead employers and employees ruin it for everyone else giving it a fair go.
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Quick question, a friend of mine works as a Pharmacist. She's unsure how this applies to her or if it applies to her at all and if she needs to make a Centrelink application because of that?
I'm pretty sure this is handled by employers and is filtered through the ATO, not centrelink.
Quick question, a friend of mine works as a Pharmacist. She's unsure how this applies to her or if it applies to her at all and if she needs to make a Centrelink application because of that?
If her pharmacy opts in for JobKeepers, she will be able to keep receiving salary as usual. If her pharmacy isn't, she can apply for the JobSeekers benefit through Centrelink
You can apply for Centrelink and then withdraw your claim if JobKeepers takes effect.So she'd need to find out if her pharmacy opted in and then if they didn't she could then apply to centrelink and that won't result in a penalty or something since she's still employed?
EDIT: Also could she apply for Rent assistance? as she currently rents 2 places. One for herself and one for her parents and siblings (They came to visit at the start of the year and kind of got stuck an her place wasn't big enough for all of them so she rented a place for them short term that's looking like it might become long term as this unfolds).
You can apply for Centrelink and then withdraw your claim if JobKeepers takes effect.
Rent Assistance is only available for people receiving benefits and is automatically applied if you filled the rental portion of the application. You are unable to claim rent assistance if you are not receiving a benefit through Centrelink.
If she applies for JobSeekers, her Rent Assistance application automatically is added on, there's no seperate application for RA (sorry I wasn't able to clarify). She could then withdraw the claim if her pharmacy opts in to JobKeepers.Ahh ok so if she for example did apply for Job Keepers then she could apply for rent assistance but then could withdraw the claim if the pharmacy did opt in down the line?
If she applies for JobSeekers, her Rent Assistance application automatically is added on, there's no seperate application for RA (sorry I wasn't able to clarify). She could then withdraw the claim if her pharmacy opts in to JobKeepers.
JobSeekers = Centrelink benefit (formerly NewStart)
JobKeepers = payment from ATO that sends $1500 per fortnight to businesses in order to keep employees hired.
No. Assets test and mutual obligations for JobSeekers have been removed.Ohhhhh ok and sorry final question, job seekers isn't restricted to people who've been recently let go or are unemployed in that case?
holy shit what a jokeSydney McDonald's worker tests positive for coronavirus, store allowed to stay open
A staff member at a western Sydney McDonald's tests positive for coronavirus and now "frightened" employees are calling for the restaurant's closure despite health authorities giving the all-clear.www.abc.net.au
No. Assets test and mutual obligations for JobSeekers have been removed.
You can now register for an intent to claim if you don't have a CRN which would then allow you to finalise your claim online when they roll out the ability to create your CRN online at around April, when claims are starting to get paid out.Good luck getting through to Centrelink though. From my understanding you need to call them and verify your identity before they will even make an account for you, and right now you can be on hold for couple of hours to get in touch with them via phone.
Strongly recommend not calling! Try out of peak hours to claim, my sister managed to claim for JobSeekers at 8pm.Mygov was up for me before but I couldn't even log in to c'link. They must be getting hammered.
And even in 'normal times' it was a 90+ minute wait for services like Austudy etc. 9/10 times you couldn't even get onto a waiting call, it was just engaged and you would have to try again and again. It will be a nightmare for their workers.