The system is fine; the cause is racist fuckwits voting for the One Nation party which is full of this type of politician.
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Australian Senator on Christchurch shootings: "real cause is Muslim fanatics", "blaming nationalists is cliched nonsense"
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Because what he is saying appeals to a lot of people in Australia.
And if we are honest, it also appeals to a lot of people in America. In America they usually try to disguise their bigotry, but as we have seen with Trump and others even here its s getting a lot more out in the open.
Yeah, you're right. It's just.. completely unfathomable to me. I can't comprehend how someone can feel that way.
It's election year for us aussies. So basically he will be voted out in a few months.
This, to me, is equivalent to a politician trying to justify an ISIS atrocity. It's unacceptable and should possibly be investigated as support for terrorism.
I actually love Australia as a country, just came back from Sydney and found that people were really kind and polite. But I also know that Australia has a sinister underbelly where people like this racist senator and the terrorists from today reside. I think it's a serious problem that Australians need to start tackling head on.
I actually love Australia as a country, just came back from Sydney and found that people were really kind and polite. But I also know that Australia has a sinister underbelly where people like this racist senator and the terrorists from today reside. I think it's a serious problem that Australians need to start tackling head on.
Holy freaking crap he completely misunderstood the entire point of that scripture for haven's sake. If any politician ever uses a verse from any holy book he will use it without knowing a single reason for what it means and will only get the face value.
He needs to be removed ASAP. Monster. Already trying to blame it on the Muslims.
He needs to be removed ASAP. Monster. Already trying to blame it on the Muslims.
It's sad how open Islamaphobia is still tolerated if not encouraged by the west. Imagine if he had said this about Jews?
"Violent vigilantism"? Are you fucking kidding me?
In no fucking reality is what happened in NZ "justice".
In no fucking reality is what happened in NZ "justice".
I was speaking to a friend who went to college and then worked there for some time. One of things he said was that issues of racism are just never discussed in most pockets of society there. Kind of like a "yeah, let's not go there and make everyone uncomfortable" thing.
Monsterous piece of crap! Just how was this fucking fool elected in office?! No shame whatsoever.
He wouldn't because Jewish people are pretty much non-existent in Australia.
Thankfully his comments have been getting a bucket load of coverage and condemnation, hopefully that results in him being voted out next election.
The hottest of takes. Politicians cheering on and justifying these attacks is no different that what we accuse various terrorist-coddling countries of doing. Dehumanizing victims and hand-waving extremism doesn't end well for anyone, but fascists depend on dehumanizing others and playing off extreme right-wing meme culture as anti-PC yuks, for their rhetoric to hold.
You'd hope that the Australian government will have strong words or censuring motions towards this kind of irresponsible and hateful garbage.
And you'd really, really hope that no US politicians go so far as to say that all Muslims deserve it, even if you know they're thinking it.
You'd hope that the Australian government will have strong words or censuring motions towards this kind of irresponsible and hateful garbage.
And you'd really, really hope that no US politicians go so far as to say that all Muslims deserve it, even if you know they're thinking it.
He wasn't. He was put in place after a special recount after the person who won the ticket was found to be ineligible due to citizenship status.
Thrillhou nailed it so I'll just quote them. But basically, it's an incredibly unlikely quirk of the system that came about due to a political shitstorm that happened that year involving dual citizenships and countries of birth etc.
Because removing a Senator due to out of Chamber/Parliament behaviour is difficult due to there being no actual official Code of Conduct for Senators when not in parliament. If someone takes him to court for hate speech and wins then he would definitely be removed but other than that I don't see it happening in the short time he has left in parliament.
If it takes another election to oust someone like that, then all it really shows is how pathetic a country like Australia is. Something like this would never be tolerated in a civilized place.
Same way Trump and others like him get elected. They say what a large part of the population wants to hear. They stoke division and assure people who look like them that he'll represent their "needs".
I can't help but notice a number of people in the responses saying the reported the tweet (and other Anning tweets) for hate speech................................ hours ago and nothing has happened to any of it.
Like for fuck's sake Twitter what is even the point of the report feature if there's no action on such public, blatant displays of hate speech? But of fucking course Twitter knows that, knows that this vile trash is getting a lot of attention, and that's just fucking good business for them.
You mean like the US (Trump), Canada (Maxime Bernier), UK (Farage), Netherlands (Geert Wilders), France (Le Pen) etc etc ?
I don't disagree in general but in this case, it was due to an unfortunate quirk in our election. The guy only got 19 below-the-line first-preference votes. 19. There is certainly racism in the far right side of the Australian government (go take a look at Katter and One Nation, as well as the right-leaning Liberal Part members) but I've not seen anything on this scale of open bigotry before.
"What it highlights is the growing fear within our community of the increasing Muslim presence"
I'm sure there's a post I've made before about prejudice where I pointed out that "I feel A because of B, therefore B is A Bad Thing" seems to be a very common justification and sentiment for bigoted views. Seeing it explicitly laid out here underlines that: THE PROBLEM IS THE GROWING FEAR. AND YOU'RE EXACERBATING IT. STOP DOING THAT.
Edit: Found it. From a trans bathroom thread in the old place:
I'm sure there's a post I've made before about prejudice where I pointed out that "I feel A because of B, therefore B is A Bad Thing" seems to be a very common justification and sentiment for bigoted views. Seeing it explicitly laid out here underlines that: THE PROBLEM IS THE GROWING FEAR. AND YOU'RE EXACERBATING IT. STOP DOING THAT.
Edit: Found it. From a trans bathroom thread in the old place:
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I wish there was a way that Earth could fucking eject us from this planet into the sun. We're fucking cancer on this planet.
If it makes you feel any better he's being called out by a lot of current and former Australian politicians as well as universally condemned by the media. Hell, even our arse of a PM deservedly called him out, whether he will do anything or not is yet to be seen.
Encouraging. Still in shock a major politician in the west blamed the victims of a terrorist attack for inviting thier own deaths. Surely this man needs to be punished somehow.
Yeah, and because he put it out so fast you can almost be sure he had that on file waiting for something to happen. What a terrible human being
We'll see.
Realistically though not much can be legally done other than an official condemnation unless Anning is charged with a crime. His tweet could (most likely do) fall under hate speech laws but someone actually has to take him to court for it to matter.
Edit: I do also want to note that it's election time and he won't be in the position for much longer either way, for whatever that's worth.
Also if anyone is curious about the events that lead to him getting the seat here you go, this was the event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017–18_Australian_parliamentary_eligibility_crisis
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I agree. If i have to live on a planet where people are free to hold such perverse and distorted views, id rather that the world in its entirety no longer exists
The president has done the same in a less direct manner.
This is the new world where bigotry is encouraged as political point scoring. Lets be clear though, Fraser Anning is not a major politician, he is a fringe lunatic that basically got elected due to a preferential voting system when another candidate was found to be ineligible. He didn't even receive the 2nd most votes in his party, he was 3rd. He had only 19 votes.
"Islam is not compatible with Australia and our politics."
Umm, neither is Christianity. In fact Jesus says to not get involved with politics or the things of the world, since paradise and/or Armageddon is coming at any moment, like "a thief in the night." And yet, even though the Bible comtains terrible things just like the Quaran and most other religious texts, people seem to tolerant them quite well. Social media has been poisoned so badly.
At any rate, we all know this is about racism and prejudice; convincing large amounts of dumb people to legitimately fear Muslims. At least in the US, there could be progress in two years. But the damage that's happened that last number of years will take far to long to fix. Fuck, I hope things get less stupid and less hateful. How can our population stomach so much hate, death and prejudice and for so long?
Sorry for the rant. I'm just so fucking sad for the families of those who lost loved ones. They were peaceful people. Not fucking radical religious nuts that want sharia law...
Umm, neither is Christianity. In fact Jesus says to not get involved with politics or the things of the world, since paradise and/or Armageddon is coming at any moment, like "a thief in the night." And yet, even though the Bible comtains terrible things just like the Quaran and most other religious texts, people seem to tolerant them quite well. Social media has been poisoned so badly.
At any rate, we all know this is about racism and prejudice; convincing large amounts of dumb people to legitimately fear Muslims. At least in the US, there could be progress in two years. But the damage that's happened that last number of years will take far to long to fix. Fuck, I hope things get less stupid and less hateful. How can our population stomach so much hate, death and prejudice and for so long?
Sorry for the rant. I'm just so fucking sad for the families of those who lost loved ones. They were peaceful people. Not fucking radical religious nuts that want sharia law...
The news is literally handwaving Nazi terrorism. I am struggling mightily with these past few days.
Straight-up unfiltered politicizing of a mass murder.
This is the future conservatives dream of - Scaring Muslims against their own faith after a White Supremacist Christian Crusader shoots up a Mosque.
Victim-blaming at a depth you'd never even think of.
This is the future conservatives dream of - Scaring Muslims against their own faith after a White Supremacist Christian Crusader shoots up a Mosque.
Victim-blaming at a depth you'd never even think of.
Fucking hell, of course Anning would decide to be a complete fucking racist asshole yet again. I apologize on behalf of us Aussies, especially since we didn't actually elect this fucker, he only got in because of a relatively recent shitstorm that caused several members of parliament to become ineligible due to people not doing due-diligence on their dual-citizenship status. And even then he got kicked out of the two racist parties (though he got removed from One Nation because Pauline Hanson is also a massive fucking asshole who thought Anning's staffers were betraying the ineligible senator Anning was replacing).
At least everyone else who isn't a complete fuckhead is calling him out on his racist bullshit.
At least everyone else who isn't a complete fuckhead is calling him out on his racist bullshit.
Quoting the bible? So... religious type, huh?
That's good, I'm glad he believes in Hell, because that's where he's heading.
That's good, I'm glad he believes in Hell, because that's where he's heading.