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AV Club: Turns out Colin Trevorrow's version of Star Wars: Episode IX was good, actually
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It's standard in 2020 now. Everything from reddit is credible.
It sounds like a much better film (mainly for building off TLJ rather than wasting time unwriting it) - but a lot of that is due to it being a hypothetical film. I'm sure this pitch would've been dulled & twisted a million ways - and Trevorrow's direction may not have done it any favors.
But it does absolutely answer the question of whether or not is was 'impossible' to write a satisfactory sequel to TLJ.
But it does absolutely answer the question of whether or not is was 'impossible' to write a satisfactory sequel to TLJ.
From the article: "we've spoken with another source who was able to independently confirm the legitimacy of the Trevorrow/Connolly script."
I like the concept but that line is a little on the nose isn't it?
Anyway, it sounds like a film that embraces The Last Jedi rather than rejecting it. Not a fan of the idea. I don't think there's really anything they could've done other than deliver 2 films instead of 1.
I don't know if I like it, but it has some interesting ideas and builds upon TLJ more than TROS did. Not a fan of Ben doubling down on evil and dying without redemption, I know that much. I think overall I'd feel content with this movie but it'd still be the worst of the trilogy.
As a Jurassic World stan who was excited for Trevorrow's movie until Book of Henry I would feel so vindicated if it turns out this is legit and he actually had some better ideas than the actual Episode IX
As a Jurassic World stan who was excited for Trevorrow's movie until Book of Henry I would feel so vindicated if it turns out this is legit and he actually had some better ideas than the actual Episode IX
There's literally no indication this is legitimate. "/r/starwarsleaks has a good track record" is like saying "4chan has a good track record." Individual contributors to the site might have a good track record, but literally anyone can submit anything without verification.
Really sloppy writing by io9 here.
Really sloppy writing by io9 here.
This was one of the better fan theories after TLJ: rather than showing up to train Rey, he would basically taunt Kylo throughout the movie and be a complete pain in the ass.
If this script was written before Carrie Fisher's death that may have been the biggest problem.
Also guessing Disney's creative team didn't like the idea of Kylo going without redemption.
Anyway, seems like it would have been neat. I didn't mind TROS for what it was, but it's clear J.J. was scrambling.
Doesn't really read like an improvement, just another take. Would have been cool to see Morris though.
For those who have read this: is it as completely empty and unsatisfying as TRoS was, or does it actually make this feel at least something like a coherent trilogy of films?
I'm not asking for an all-time classic here, just something that isn't the most uninteresting "yes, and" of all time.
I'm not asking for an all-time classic here, just something that isn't the most uninteresting "yes, and" of all time.
Excuse me I have it on good authority that The Last Jedi left absolutely nothing for Episode IX to work with.
It doesn't sound as layered as TLJ but nothing as stupid as Palpatine's granddaughter, or Lando being like Jesus rallying the whole galaxy against thousands of ships that can destroy Planets, and it doesn't sound like it ruins Anakin's sacrifice by bringing Palpatine back. The perfect ending would be Kylo volunteering to go into exile and not try to earn redemption, but at least try to do something good, like the recent Arthur Morgan or the lone gunslingers in some classic westerns, but at least he doesn't get his grand romantic moment because he doesn't fucking deserve it.
It feels more like a coherent folow-up imo, though it misses a redemption for Kylo (which is something I feel the trilogy was moving towards since TFA). There are no backtrackings on what TLJ told us. Rey is still a nobody, the conflict is focused on the new cast in stead of pulling Palpatine in, ...
It's also Star Wars, where good guys are elementally noble and bad guys have scars, wear black, and make their lightsabers "bleed". Subtlety has never been the franchise's strength.
Problems with RoS aside, I'll be damned before I start commending the work of Colin Trevorrow after his recent portfolio. "Atleast it's not as cowardly as Rise" ain't a high bar.
Eyerolls for days at these parts:
Darth Maul-esque droid. He has stubble indicating search has been for a long time.
At some point is revealed Kylo killed Rey's parents at the behest of Snoke.
Still pretty much garbage tbh. Unimagintive and full of lazy fan service. Trevorrow is a hack.
Darth Maul-esque droid. He has stubble indicating search has been for a long time.
At some point is revealed Kylo killed Rey's parents at the behest of Snoke.
Still pretty much garbage tbh. Unimagintive and full of lazy fan service. Trevorrow is a hack.
This new cast got shafted so hard, so that at least sounds like an improvement.
It doesn't sound great, but ROS plot twists and resolutions were awful or awkward. Even a generic SW film that didn't have these and tries to develop secondary characters like Rose and Hux, would be a significant improvement.
Like the reports of the "Abrams cut" of TROS, this reads rather like a fan wishlist script than an actual thing someone official wrote. The average moviegoer has no idea wtf Kuat is. It's something fans tend to do over the people who are really in charge: work EU stuff in instead of inventing their own things.
Same goes for Mortis.
Same goes for Mortis.
