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AVENGERS 4 | Speculation Thread (Open Spoilers, Set Photos and Leaks)
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He lost a chunk of the remaining Asgardians at the start of IW, watched his best friend and brother get murdered in front of his eyes and has the guilt of not killing Thanos when he had the chance thus causing half of all life (including another half of Asgard) to be wiped from existence. I'd say that kinda shit would weigh heavy on anyone.
Plus, we don't know what exactly happens pre-timeskip yet, other than that they can't reverse the snap then. If they lose the fight against Thanos, or the stones are destroyed and it's useless anyway, that level of nihilism would weigh heavily on anybody, but especially a person who just experienced all that too.
Only thing I don't like about the whole Thor thing is that he maintains the look even in the final battle. You would think by then he would have gone back to the clean cut look.
Something I just now realized that I'm not sure is intentional, but would be neat if it were:
Doom and Gloom (the song playing when they're preparing to go into the Quantum Realm) was recorded and released in 2012.
What year were they going to again?
Doom and Gloom (the song playing when they're preparing to go into the Quantum Realm) was recorded and released in 2012.
What year were they going to again?
Oh shit. This is TOTALLY how Loki stays alive-and conveniently does away with the character growth that painted him into a corner. Basically the Loki from Avengers jumps through time to present day and cheats death.
So, knowing what I know now, I have questions... First: how do they get the soul stone? What/who is sacrificed? Second: Since they can revisit the past can they go save Pietro?
I didn't read any spoilers. Just wanted to say that I got spoiled because I wanted to show someone a video of Thor. It was predictable, but still, it sucks to know. The thumbnail that spoiled me has nothing to do with Thor. 😅
1) Doesn't Nebula know where the soul stone is?
2) Probably but I bet they want to avoid fucking with time too much. Plus, if they are getting the Mind Stone in 2012 they probably won't even go to 2015.
She knows where it is but who would they sacrifice? A soul for a soul..
Apparently, it's Black Widow - according to the leak that called everything in the footage way before the footage leaked, and some posters on here.
I thought that was Wong, but then again if they're going have THAT scene with THAT many heroes, no reason for Strange to be the only one missing.
THAT Scene is making me rethink my tickets I have for my Dolby Cinema screening. I really want to see that scene in the full IMAX frame.
Does that mean the first character ain't in the big finale showdown?
Not sure but Cap is the one who figures out how to bring everyone back. Gamora isn't there so I'm assuming it's permanent.
The latest teaser pretty much spoiled
that either clint or BW will not be coming back, as they seem to be going alone for a stone, we know Cap and Hulk's team (feat Iron Man and Scott) is in NY for the 3 stones in that vicinity (Space, Mind and Time). Rocket and Thor will most likely be getting Power and Reality because of it being related to the Guardians and Thor, which leaves Soul for Clint and Widow meaning there has to be a sacrifice for it.
Nat probably tells him to do it-she has no one but he will be reunited with his family.
Rocket and Thor probably also have War Machine and Nebula with them as well.
We've seen Dr. Strange already literally reverse time. It's not like they're trying to fool anyone.
That then would confirm one of the leaks on who bites it. Weird since one has a movie and one has a series.
Black Widow
Her movie is prequel set before she joined SHIELD.
(for some reasons I'm unable to use spoiler tags on my phone...)
If the other speculated death at the end is true
then Tony can probably ask the Avengers to swear on his death that they will not meddle with time again, because it might have unforeseen consequences.
"swear on my death that you won't use another contrived Deus Ex machina to keep this franchise going"
pretty much .. seeing how they can fundamentally fuck the fabric of the universe up with their timey wimey shenanigans will probably have everyone at caution by the end.
I suspect it has to do with undoing of snap. So if they travel through time again to get him, he would never do it in the first place and that would create some kind of paradox. Can already see Strange explaining this to everyone.
I'd presume they pop in, get the stone they need, then pop out, everything still plays out more or less as it did, with Loki getting captured.
Yes, but if you swear on someone's death not to use time travel, but then you use time travel to reverse their death, did you really break a promise?
The Avengers 5 will be used in Philosophy classes for decades.
Seeing as he's wearing his full battle armor
(and has all of his allies back in the leaked clip), that is most likely a Thanos from the new timeline who never got the stones.
I truly wonder if there's any way someone can actively take part in twitter/YouTube/forums in general without getting spoiled for the next week or so at this point. It's a huge leak - with the biggest twists being summed up in a few words as easy as "X dies" and with how big this once-in-a-lifetime event is I bet the trolls come out in full force. I've already seen people suicide their accounts on reddit posting this stuff on completely unrelated topics.
9 more days of this
9 more days of this
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but how can it be more powerful than the previous one? thor almost 1HK him in Wakanda
Russos said Thanos was caught off guard.
"It came out of nowhere". Thanos was probably too busy admiring/drinking the power of a fully loaded gauntlet which led to that.
A fully aware and battle ready Thanos wouldn't let that happen.
Oh, ok.
But I think I still prefer that he has not died and the returned thanos is the same from the first movie
An alternate universe Tony who meddled with the time stream too much will come back in a later story as Kang #believe