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AVENGERS 4 | Speculation Thread (Open Spoilers, Set Photos and Leaks)
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In thinking they go back to the fight in Wakanda. Hulk being embedded in the rock and saying "we got issues to work on pal" and then nadda? Yeah he's gonna burst out of that suit and join the fight. Cap solo fight wasn't much, but one with him coordinating all the heroes could do it. Will end with Thor getting his head.
no it wouldnt if its well done, and if you actually think for a moment that Black Panther or Spider Man are staying dead when we know for a fact that both movies are getting sequels, well I dont know what to tell you.
I think that makes sense too. If I were a betting person, I'd bet on it.
Speaking of... the movie will surely finally give us Rogers saying "Avengers, assemble," right? Finally delivering on the tease from Age of Ultron.
Don't forget my girl Valkyrie and (probably) my boy Korg. :(
Everyone knows those characters are coming back.. but it would be cheap if they brought people back who died pre snap
It's not time travel, Strange found the winning timeline because he saw one where he died/blacked out then unblocked out.
They won't rewind time, they will just bring everyone who disappeared into dust back with a snap of a finger.
the first is already called that in the UK tho isn't it
Guess 1: She still has the Extremis powers from IM3
Guess 2: She'll be donning a version of the Iron Man armor similar to Bleeding Edge, and become the MCU version of Rescue
It's almost GOTTA be something like that
I get the feeling that the Asgardians are finished.
Also, I like the idea of Thor joining the Guardians of the Galaxy. That could be really good.
I'd be okay with something like that.
On another topic, Starlord is going to need some hardcore redemption in the next movie after what he did. I was actually frustrated seeing him do that, since it seemed out of character. He's goofy, but not stupid.
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There were some moments in the fight with thanos where Doctor Strange slipped away.
I would bet he portaled himself to Hank Pym and they went to the subatomic realm and cut a piece of the time stone before he returned to give the rest of the gem to thanos.
That's an end credit scene in the ant man 2 film that is why the film won't be shown until after avengers 3.
Pym is to survive thanos in the quantum realm and give the stone to tony and cap to use time travel to prevent this. But it's a one way trip meaning tony and cap won't be able to return to the timeline.
I do not want any time travel that doesn't involve the time stone.
Time travel is way too overpowered and crazy to have Pym and tony build a time machine in their basement with a box of scraps. It would make future threats seem nonconsequential.
Time travel shouldn't be possible without the time gem which should get lost or destroyed in the process.
Time travel is way too overpowered and crazy to have Pym and tony build a time machine in their basement with a box of scraps. It would make future threats seem nonconsequential.
Time travel shouldn't be possible without the time gem which should get lost or destroyed in the process.
I was thinking the same thing. He already knows how to speak groot, maybe he can discipline that bratty twig
So I'm going to avoid spoiling anything based on comic knowledge, but they're either setting up an intentional swerve, or it's really obvious how the next film resolves if you've read Infinity Gauntlet. They have done a lot of setup that you won't notice if you're not looking for it.
Not sure what the spoiler policy for this would be so I'm being cautious.
I haven't followed any news so I'm not sure if anything came of that.
Are there any theories about the casting of an older Cassie Lang?
I haven't followed any news so I'm not sure if anything came of that.
My theory is they find a way to reverse the snap so that it flips who lives and who dies. Everyone alive at the end of IW dies in exchange for everyone who was killed with the snap. That way it leaves an exit for the characters who are pretty much done and gives a way to kill thanos since he was one of the people left alive for the snap.
I think it was suspicious that only the people with future movies/longer contracts (excluding rocket) were the only people who disappeared.
I think it was suspicious that only the people with future movies/longer contracts (excluding rocket) were the only people who disappeared.
you think spider-man is going to stay dead? black panther? lol
Also, uh, can you imagine the endless chaos and destruction if half the world just died? This is going to get dealt with. That said, time travel has general issues.
Okay, my thoughts.
- Pym will have something to do with what will happen in Avengers 4. He will be the one creating the time machine with Shuri. Steve and Tony will manipulate the events of where the stones will be, probably every stone except one or two will be on Earth (Those exceptions are Power and Soul probably,) and they will re-plan the entire fight against Thanos.
- About Ant-Man 2: Scott and Maggie will be the ones "vanishing" as part of the snap. Cassie, Hank and Hope will be the ones surviving.
- Captain Marvel will beat up Thanos personally.
- Tony will end up retiring after Avengers 4. Not die, he will get cameos.
- Vision will be saved by Shuri.
- Everyone who got "Snapped" will be back. Peter Parker will have a PTSD about him disappearing and being a pivotal part of Spider-Man 2.
- Some of the infinity stones, if not all of them will be destroyed by the end of Avengers 4.
- Thanos will survive, but he will lose everything, and probably he will be sealed somewhere. He will be the new "Loki" in the sense that he will be a linking plot.
- Steve will die. Bucky or Falcon take his place, the next "Captain America Movie" will be about who takes the mantle of the Cap.
- Pym will have something to do with what will happen in Avengers 4. He will be the one creating the time machine with Shuri. Steve and Tony will manipulate the events of where the stones will be, probably every stone except one or two will be on Earth (Those exceptions are Power and Soul probably,) and they will re-plan the entire fight against Thanos.
- About Ant-Man 2: Scott and Maggie will be the ones "vanishing" as part of the snap. Cassie, Hank and Hope will be the ones surviving.
- Captain Marvel will beat up Thanos personally.
- Tony will end up retiring after Avengers 4. Not die, he will get cameos.
- Vision will be saved by Shuri.
- Everyone who got "Snapped" will be back. Peter Parker will have a PTSD about him disappearing and being a pivotal part of Spider-Man 2.
- Some of the infinity stones, if not all of them will be destroyed by the end of Avengers 4.
- Thanos will survive, but he will lose everything, and probably he will be sealed somewhere. He will be the new "Loki" in the sense that he will be a linking plot.
- Steve will die. Bucky or Falcon take his place, the next "Captain America Movie" will be about who takes the mantle of the Cap.
I wish. I was soooooo fucking sure Mistress Death was going to pop up right there in that scene.
mother fucker did the snap!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I swear between that and the roof collapse scene from Homecoming, Tom Holland is a master at acting weak and vulnerable.
And I mean that in the best way. He completely sells Peter just being a kid in way over his head.
Spider 2 being Peter having PTSD over actually realizing what it is to be a hero would be great.
Probably just an earlier version/take of the scene (also see: BP's hobbled running which doesn't look great).
So, the title is probably being revealed at SDCC.
But yeah, I generally agree that the time travel thing is weird. "Hey guys guess what! We invented a time machine!".
But yeah, I generally agree that the time travel thing is weird. "Hey guys guess what! We invented a time machine!".
GotG 3 will be that. Starlord trying to redeem himself on the eyes of the rest of team. Even Gamora.
No redemption necessary for Star Lord - it was all part of the only course of action in which they win. Strange said it had to be this way.
But redemption is coming. You just know it's coming.
But redemption is coming. You just know it's coming.
Damn, Inifinity War was basically Transformers: The Movie (1985). Except there was no Hot Rod to claim the matrix of leadership and Unicron (Thanos) won.
DAMN.
But I'm with all those said that somehow there will be a "reverse snap" and all who died will trade places with the living.
DAMN.
But I'm with all those said that somehow there will be a "reverse snap" and all who died will trade places with the living.
The infinity gauntlet was busted so Thanos isn't using that again, but yeah... the "deaths" mean very little when we know for sure Spider-Man, Black Panther, and members of the Guardians are for sure coming back.
Do we know if Carol is supposed to be cosmic powered in A4 ? If so, won't that make her the strongest Avenger of 'em all ?
(Not really familiar with the comics.)
(Not really familiar with the comics.)
Fun fact :
After the post-credit scene and I slowly emerge from this rollercoaster of emotions, two dudes behind me comment on the Cap Marvel pager logo very seriously "oh yeah so he called the russians ? Gotta be the russians right ?!"
I mean, not to sound pedantic but even I who haven't read any single comic was like "you what know ?!"
After the post-credit scene and I slowly emerge from this rollercoaster of emotions, two dudes behind me comment on the Cap Marvel pager logo very seriously "oh yeah so he called the russians ? Gotta be the russians right ?!"
I mean, not to sound pedantic but even I who haven't read any single comic was like "you what know ?!"
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So another long shot, but if it is indeed time travel... what if Tony and Scott even go during the events of age of ultron and pick up quick silver. Maybe they then have the tech to save him after he is shot... or maybe they fake his death altogether. Maybe Hawkeye shoots him with a weapon that actually stunned him but gave the same effect as death (or something like that) so that they can pick him up without affecting the time line.
I have a friend who still calls it "Avengers Assemble". I refuse to call it such a shitty name.