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AVENGERS 4 | Speculation Thread (Open Spoilers, Set Photos and Leaks)
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Just pee in the cup, throw the pee out into space and use the cup again.
The only mention of Fox characters will be during a post credits scene where Tony is watching the news and it's announced that, after the effects of the snap have been reversed, there has been an unprecedented number of people reporting.... MUTATIONS. *INCEPTION HORN* *CREDITS KEEP ROLLING*
Oh and Doctor Doom will pop up during the post-post credits, leading people to search en masse on google "masked guy avengers endgame credits" and leading to 12 million clickbait articles about WHY THE POST CREDITS TO END GAME CHANGES EVERYTHING and MARVEL'S GREATEST VILLAIN COMES TO THE MCU
feige playing 12D chess
Oh and Doctor Doom will pop up during the post-post credits, leading people to search en masse on google "masked guy avengers endgame credits" and leading to 12 million clickbait articles about WHY THE POST CREDITS TO END GAME CHANGES EVERYTHING and MARVEL'S GREATEST VILLAIN COMES TO THE MCU
feige playing 12D chess
When they finally do decide to do a Nova movie, they already have the perfect setup for it. Unless Avengers Endgame erases everything Thanos did, all of the Nova Corps would have probably been killed when Xandar was destroyed. All they have to do is say that Rich Rider was offworld, and is the last remaining Nova Corps.
I would love to see them do Nova in the MCU, but until they can use the Fox characters, like Annihilus, they might as well just wait.
They've made deal that allow them to use Fox character before. Ego The Living Planet for one.
Wonder if that'll hurt them. I remember so many saying it would be impossible for IW to have a bigger OW than Force Awakens because the movie is longer so less viewings but we know what happened.
I'm down for a 3 hour movie because this is the one movie where you'll need the time. I'm guessing but they wouldn't really have a movie where heroes like Panther and Spidey are missing for 90% of the movie. Gotta have time to bring them back as well as have everyone make the journey to all show up on screen together.
I'm surprised Thor's symbol is a hammer
I don't think it will, this isn't Warner where they cut down their movies to get more viewings. Most people I've heard from when they heard the runtime were all for it being lengthy. I hope it's very long and nothing is left out.
I don't think it will, this isn't Warner where they cut down their movies to get more viewings. Most people I've heard from when they heard the runtime were all for it being lengthy. I hope it's very long and nothing is left out.
Cinemas will just put it in more screens if the runtime is 3 hours. Let's face it, no film's going to want to release anywhere near Endgame so they'll not have to fight for screens to show the film on.
Russo's said that Marvel has never asked them to compromise the movies they wanted to make. If they delivered a 2 hour 55 minute cut and said this is the film I don't think Marvel would say, "go cut 30 minutes".
I laughed too hard at this
I don't think they would do that either. The movie is a guaranteed success and even if it wasn't I believe Marvel would back it to the fullest without a suit worrying about the bonus in their paycheque.
I really don't want any Fox characters in this. I know the X-Men are technically a huge part of the Avengers, but i feel putting them or any other characters, would just, well, ruin it to be honest. Just personal thoughts, but it feels like it should just be the ones we are used to.
What do you mean by Fox characters? Actors like Michael Fassbender, Ryan Reynolds or Hugh Jackman?
They'd re-cast all of them thankfully. There'd most probably be fan cries for Ryan to stay as Deadpool but I wouldn't even be mad if they find someone else because his schtick is getting old and is bleeding into Pikachu of all characters.
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The characters, is really what i meant. I don't think it'd be right to introduce any of them in Endgame. it just wouldn't feel right.
There won't be any Fox characters in Avengers 4, guaranteed.
If, as people believe, everyone "killed" in The Snap had their souls trapped inside the Soul Gem, it's possible that a good chunk of the movie will be about the snapped half of the universe trying to undo what Thanos did from the inside.
We always assumed Strange had to manipulate events so that very specific people survived The Snap in order to eventually undo it, but what if it was the other way around? Like, what if Strange and Wanda need to be inside the Soul Gem to break everyone out of it?
Quite possible and a good idea. I imagine if this was the case, we'll see some plan fail and some emotional effects from the outside and then cut to someone waking up on the inside.
I see, the Fox characters part confused me. Like Alexandros said they won't be in the movie. Even with clickbait sites and YouTube channels reporting Hugh Jackman being in Endgame.
https://www.businessinsider.com/mar...ge-talks-x-men-after-disneyfox-merger-2018-12
He was on Variety's podcast like 6 days ago.
Wouldnt make much sense, and steal a lot of thunder from what the movie is about I would say. Also, don't see how they're suddenly going to introduce mutants, unless that's a side-effect from the (undoing of the) Snap, or some alternate timeline shenanigans (which would be quite lame, to be honest).
Interesting. I think the biggest takeaway from this is Iger's earlier quote about a new franchise all together.
https://www.businessinsider.nl/disn...fter-avengers-2018-5/?international=true&r=US
Yeah, apologies that i didn't word that too well! But this is good news. I'm happy for them to come in later, just not in Endgame.
Yeah that's interesting, it makes me wonder if they'll do the solo character movies and then the bookend for that phase would instead of being Avengers be something like New Avengers or Secret Avengers whatever else team names Marvel has used in the comics for example.
That's okay and I agree with you on that I don't want characters just shoehorned into that movie, it really wouldn't fit right now. Captain Marvel is fine because they set out the movie with her always intended to be in it as Brie filmed Endgame before the solo movie.
The more interesting thing for me will be how they plan to introduce these mutants into the MCU.
My guess is the multiverse. The Anient One already told Strange that there are infinite universes. That may be the easiest way to explain Fox characters that have been missing this whole time... by being in a different universe. I also wonder if the Maximoff twins will be retconned.. for example discovering that the mind stone caused a dormant X-Gene to activate.
I wonder if Avengers 4 may have been written in a way for future retcons to make sense. I know it makes sense to not have any Fox characters throughout phase 3. But I have to wonder if Marvel Studios was toying with the idea of making a future deal with Fox to use characters in Phase 4 or 5 and keeping the Avengers 4 ending somewhat open in a way to make room for future retcons. They already made a deal with Fox for Ego the Living planet so I think considering other deals for future phases prior to the acquisition weren't out of the question.
Thing is, if they go the alt universe route, it would be really weird. "Hey guys, there now are thousands of people with superskills with an established history of using those powers".
And using the dormant-gene thing, it would mean that people suddenly get powers. I don't really see how this will work if Marvel wants to use the most popular/famous characters and their "established" backstory.
I really think that the X-men will get their own franchise; with maybe a dimensional cross-over later down the line :P
Well, technically, he is stranded on Titan with Nebula (?) so not really lost in space per se.
Umm...the trailer showed him being lost in space? Him and Nebula used the guardian ship to leave Titan.
If you look at the date which the post was quoted (April 2018), the End game trailer wasn't out yet.
We now know he is in space with Nebula but at the end of IW, we are to believe he is on Titan with Nebula after every one has been dusted.
Well there is like a year or so between Homecoming and Infinity War. Plenty of time to fit in a movie chronologically before Infinity War.
That's what i was thinking - and it would make some sense because i just can't comprehend how they advertise this film without revealing any endgame details.
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I don't understand why it's so hard to imagine a Spider-Man marketing campaign focusing on his own adventure after Endgame.
They'll show Spidey doing his thing in Europe up against the Elementals, him leaving his apartment in New York to go on the trip. A shot of Mysterio.
They'll show Spider-Man is back. Maybe they'll show Nick Fury. It's not really much of a spoiler. They'll show pieces without spoiling the plot or ending of Endgame.
It's really not that hard.
Also FFH is set minutes after Endgame.
They'll show Spidey doing his thing in Europe up against the Elementals, him leaving his apartment in New York to go on the trip. A shot of Mysterio.
They'll show Spider-Man is back. Maybe they'll show Nick Fury. It's not really much of a spoiler. They'll show pieces without spoiling the plot or ending of Endgame.
It's really not that hard.
Also FFH is set minutes after Endgame.
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Oh well there's that theory out the window.
If it starts minutes after End Game, does that mean Spidey wakes up on Titan and is like "OH BOY I SURE AM FAR FROM HOME."?
'This reminds me of that time we went on a School trip'
(90s wobbly screen transition to the main part of the movie)
(2hrs 5mins later... wobble transition back)
'...And that's how I won the surfing competition'
'Yeah, cool story kid, it sure passed the time on our way back to Earth'
(90s wobbly screen transition to the main part of the movie)
(2hrs 5mins later... wobble transition back)
'...And that's how I won the surfing competition'
'Yeah, cool story kid, it sure passed the time on our way back to Earth'
Minutes after Endgame, not IW. How would we know Spidey is on Titan?
He was on Titan when The Snap happened. If they undo it, doesn't that mean everyone that died on Titan ends up back there?
Or the snap is undone halfway/early on in Endgame and Doctor Strange portals everyone to earth or wherever everyone else is for the final battle..
I doubt the snap will be undone in the end of the movie. They need that money shot with every superhero of the MCU standing against Thanos. (I will be disappointed if this doesn't happen and Cap doesn't say the "Avengers Assemble" line)