I saw a recent interview with Tom Holland and Cumberbatch and Tom still calls it that
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AVENGERS 4 | Speculation Thread (Open Spoilers, Set Photos and Leaks)
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They sounded dead serious and absolutely clueless. Anyway, got me a good laugh for sure.
God fucking dammit, time travel? Are you serious?
Man I really hope that it's not what it looks like and these scenes are just like... stuff that happened in the past that we haven't seen before. If they literally pull people out of time and fuck up the timeline like that... ugh god dammit I hate it when people bullshit time travel like that. They're basically fucking up their own timeline and/or fucking up other timelines as well. That's garbage writing and garbage paradoxical time travel out the ass. Is the Avengers Forever comic good? Maybe I should check it out before I totally write this off but I'm really picky about time travel stories and the high I was on from just seeing Infinity War just took a complete shit dive reading the OP.
Man I really hope that it's not what it looks like and these scenes are just like... stuff that happened in the past that we haven't seen before. If they literally pull people out of time and fuck up the timeline like that... ugh god dammit I hate it when people bullshit time travel like that. They're basically fucking up their own timeline and/or fucking up other timelines as well. That's garbage writing and garbage paradoxical time travel out the ass. Is the Avengers Forever comic good? Maybe I should check it out before I totally write this off but I'm really picky about time travel stories and the high I was on from just seeing Infinity War just took a complete shit dive reading the OP.
She hasn't had powers since the end of the movie she got them in.
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The stones are fine. How do you think he teleported away?
It gives undue respect to that shitty adaptation of the Avengers TV series, so nope.
Peter Dinklage needs to be in the sequel somehow.
..... uh, sure. ok.
I can see something like this happening.
If you look at who 'died', new Avengers (Black Panther, Spider-Man, Guardians, Dr Strange) and who are still alive, old Avengers (Tony, Steve, Bruce, Natasha and Thor) they are loosely linked.
Thor sacrifices himself to bring back the Guardians, Iron Man sacrifices himself to bring back Spider-Man and Dr Strange and Cap sacrifices himself to bring back Bucky, Sam and Black Panther.
I can't believe they killed Valkyrie, she has to be brought back in Avengers 4. She was the best thing about Thor Ragnarok, and has endless potential, damnit!
Now the real question will be
Is Tony Director of SHIELD? I can't imagine they bring back Coulson as the substitute director because Fury and Hill turned into dust. Or maybe Captain Marvel will be used to reintroduce Son of Coul to the movie audience again.
... ... now I want the OG Avengers being mad at Coulson.
Is Tony Director of SHIELD? I can't imagine they bring back Coulson as the substitute director because Fury and Hill turned into dust. Or maybe Captain Marvel will be used to reintroduce Son of Coul to the movie audience again.
... ... now I want the OG Avengers being mad at Coulson.
The first Avengers? And as for judging, you seem to be doing a lot of that so far. It's just a movie title, dude. It's no big deal. Who cares what an actor calls a film?
A couple of predictions for Avengers 4:
-The scene from the comics with Cap walking towards Thanos will definitely happen. Marvel Studios are great with paying homage to comics.
-Cap will wield Mjolnir against Thanos. Time travel is a very likely scenario so at some point young Thor will be K.O.-ed and Cap will lift the hammer.
-Thor will dual wield Stormbreaker and Mjolnir.
-The scene from the comics with Cap walking towards Thanos will definitely happen. Marvel Studios are great with paying homage to comics.
-Cap will wield Mjolnir against Thanos. Time travel is a very likely scenario so at some point young Thor will be K.O.-ed and Cap will lift the hammer.
-Thor will dual wield Stormbreaker and Mjolnir.
Individually yes. But the gauntlet seemed fried. I doubt he'll be able to use them together again.
Red Skull: "It requires a sacrifice. A soul for a soul."
Steve: "We don't trade lives."
Thanos' entire point about overpopulation, killing half to save half...
I can totally see this happening.
Like somone else said, Dinklage is still around. Or you could just throw them in a bag. The Infinity Sack.
Who said they did? Thor said Thanos killed "half" his people, it can be assumed he evacuated part of the population as Thanos attacked. I imagine Valkyrie and Korg and a chunk of the Asgardians are elsewhere now, awaiting a Thor sequel down the line.
Valkyrie is definitely in the next one anyway, whether she's alive or dead.
If they do that though Loki and Gamora and Heimdall survive automatically, and I don't see them doing that. Maybe Gamora comes back somehow but Loki is definitely out.
Or they do go back pre-Xandar but Loki ends up sacrificing himself along with others anyway to stop Thanos, then the stones are destroyed so there's no way to undo the deaths this time.
Yeah, that didn't even occur to me.
I think he was also the only one not pleading for Quill to stop, which means he saw this outcome already.
Bruh, this is it. Gotta be.
Edit: I'll add it will probably be Cap only, they have spent so long on Potts and Tony, he may try to sacrifice himself but Cap wont let him. Then Tony will retire Iron Man to live with Pots.
Or they will rip our heart out and kill off both.
The spoilers I read all mention the cast from Ragnarok being dead, awesome if its not the case. I would pay a fortune to watch a "Valkyrie's drunken space adventures" movie.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't someone say they spotted Tessa Thomson on the set of Avengers 4?
I was 12 when that came out and was asking who is supposed to be Captain America in that poster.
Maaaaan if 60's Reeves and Sue step out a portal I'm going to lose my God damn mind lol
Nah....I need Tony Stark and Steve Rogers around when Parker is an adult. They can die after that.
(Now if they bring in a future Peter Parker to help.....oh man..but not Tobey he is a giant dweeb)
Got a feeling our original 6 (Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Hawkeye and Widow) are all dead at the end of the next movie. I was hoping Fury would show up more than just the end credits but I hope he is in more of the next one. The fact that we havent seen him since the Winter Soldier is kinda weird.
What was the device nick fury had at the end?
Fury didnt seem to surprised that people were turning into dust, almost like he was expecting it.
Are there time travellers in the marvel universe fury could of been in contact with?
Fury didnt seem to surprised that people were turning into dust, almost like he was expecting it.
Are there time travellers in the marvel universe fury could of been in contact with?
I feel like the reason Thanos had to win is because he's so powerful that he is impossible to defeat when he has a goal. The way to win is to let Thanos achieve his goal, and then make him realise that he was wrong, and that he should reverse the change. We see Gamora talking to him, presumably from the soul gem, which leads me to believe he'll continue to talk to her and realise his guilt. Strange made a point of not stopping Star Lord (someone Thanos said he liked) from getting mad and sacrificing their victory just because he loved Gamora so much. Sacrificing victory for Gamora is something Thanos couldn't do, and maybe he'll feel bad about that. Plus Stark is alive, someone Thanos respects as a fellow genius. Perhaps the reason he had to live was to show that eradicating half the universe didn't actually save anything, and he'll realise that it's better to just revert to the moment before he snapped his fingers.
Of course, I don't know how that ends with a big punchy showdown but we'll see how it turns out.
Of course, I don't know how that ends with a big punchy showdown but we'll see how it turns out.
She was Edinburgh along with Ruffalo and Hemsworth. Whether they shot any of their stuff in Edinburgh I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if some location shots got filmed for A4 during the A3 shoot, especially if they are doing time travel jiggery pokery.
I know you didnt like it but I thought the Red Skull reveal was great. Many people in my theater gasped when they saw his face including me. I bet we dont see him again unless he is somehow revived when all the other avengers are as a consequence of their revival.
One person in my theater awkwardly laughed and a woman said "Oh, it's that guy!"
It's for Captain Marvel, it's a modified pager from the 90s so I guess it'll be a prop that shows up in her film.
So you guys remember Dr. Strange saying there's only one timeline where they win? Guessing Tony has to be alive for that timeline to happen.
So here's my Prediction for Avengers 4... I like the theory that time Travel and Scott Pym play a role in is, and they use that to it travel into past Marvel films trying to search for a point in time where they can stop Thanos. And in the end, they find that the only way to stop Thanos is basically to prevent the Avengers from ever being made in the first place, and that's by stopping the catalyst that started it all: Red Skull and the Tesseract (it's why they brought him back, a teaser) This has several effects on the Marvel Universe, mostly for the Originals.
-Since the War is over, the Super Solider Program is discontinued and Steve Rogers never becomes Captain America.
- Howard Stark can't make money off weapons since there's no War, so he invests in other Technology, Tony never becomes Iron Man.
- With the Tesserect destroyed, the Asgardian and Loki have no reason to ever come to Earth.
- With the Super Solider Program ended, Bruce Banner never becomes the Hulk.
This also has no effect on any other heroes, such as the Guardians, Spiderman, Dr. Strange, Black Panther.. so they continue on their own in a "No Avengers" world.
None of the old cast dies, they just live their lives as if they never became superheroes in the first place, giving a finality to their stories.
-Since the War is over, the Super Solider Program is discontinued and Steve Rogers never becomes Captain America.
- Howard Stark can't make money off weapons since there's no War, so he invests in other Technology, Tony never becomes Iron Man.
- With the Tesserect destroyed, the Asgardian and Loki have no reason to ever come to Earth.
- With the Super Solider Program ended, Bruce Banner never becomes the Hulk.
This also has no effect on any other heroes, such as the Guardians, Spiderman, Dr. Strange, Black Panther.. so they continue on their own in a "No Avengers" world.
None of the old cast dies, they just live their lives as if they never became superheroes in the first place, giving a finality to their stories.
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Pretty dark ending, really liked it.
Curious to see how they will fix this. Time travel is kind of obvious here, but hope they come out with something different.
Besides I think the time infinity stone is a no go here, not only Thanos has it but the only good guy that knows how to control it is out of action.
Didn't like the post credit scene to be honest. It's like every major company today is going full cuck mode.
Curious to see how they will fix this. Time travel is kind of obvious here, but hope they come out with something different.
Besides I think the time infinity stone is a no go here, not only Thanos has it but the only good guy that knows how to control it is out of action.
Didn't like the post credit scene to be honest. It's like every major company today is going full cuck mode.
They're not going to flush one of their biggest brands (Avengers) down the toilet like that.