Avengers: Endgame - Official Trailer #2

The Kree

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Can someone explain how this works in the comics? Is Sam still just a normal dude? I mean cap is super human and so is Bucky so Bucky makes more sense. I think falcon cap looks cool but does he get a dose is super serium or something?
Aside from his psychic connection to birds, he's not superhuman.
 
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Manmademan

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Can someone explain how this works in the comics? Is Sam still just a normal dude? I mean cap is super human and so is Bucky so Bucky makes more sense. I think falcon cap looks cool but does he get a dose is super serium or something?
Sam doesn't have super powers, but that's not that unusual, especially for the tier of villains that Cap *typically* fights. Either it's generally street level in his own book, or he's playing strategist and team leader directing team mates to take down heavier threats as Avengers field leader.

Hawkeye was pretty much in the same boat during the era he led the West Coast Avengers.

Sam is physically around where daredevil, punisher, or moon knight are- though probably not as good a pure combatant as either of those three. Balancing that out is that not only can sam fly, the wings he's equipped with are vibranium. So offensive and defensive weapons there.

The Sam Cap books were pretty good, all things considered. The only REALLY odd thing is that conceptually the shield as a weapon doesn't really gel well with a flying protagonist.

edit: yeah, and I forgot the psychic bird thing. He has a "primary" bird he runs around with that's a lot smarter than average and apparently unkillable due to vampirism.
 

Tophat Jones

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So 100% chance Hawkeyes daughter turns to dust while they’re out practicing together, right?

Edit: beaten multiple times just looking at the last page. Probably hundreds of times overall.
 

Ryuelli

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no other explanation for hawkeye running around the world as Ronin makes any sense.
Halloween costumes were 50% off and he thought it sounded fun. He was going to travel with his daughters, but then they turned to dust and he thought "You know what, the trip is already paid for. Would be a shame for it to go to waste".
 
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Sam doesn't have super powers, but that's not that unusual, especially for the tier of villains that Cap *typically* fights. Either it's generally street level in his own book, or he's playing strategist and team leader directing team mates to take down heavier threats as Avengers field leader.

Hawkeye was pretty much in the same boat during the era he led the West Coast Avengers.

Sam is physically around where daredevil, punisher, or moon knight are- though probably not as good a pure combatant as either of those three. Balancing that out is that not only can sam fly, the wings he's equipped with are vibranium. So offensive and defensive weapons there.

The Sam Cap books were pretty good, all things considered. The only REALLY odd thing is that conceptually the shield as a weapon doesn't really gel well with a flying protagonist.

edit: yeah, and I forgot the psychic bird thing. He has a "primary" bird he runs around with that's a lot smarter than average and apparently unkillable due to vampirism.
Dang very informative post thanks. I’d love to see a falcon cap on the big screen!
 

Manmademan

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Dang very informative post thanks. I’d love to see a falcon cap on the big screen!
I thought I heard something about a Winter Soldier/Falcon team up series that should be taking place after Endgame.

I can see that working out with Falcon being the "public" face of Captain America while Bucky does wetwork behind the scenes. Neither one of them is really anywhere close to being able to take over as "cap" from Steve Rogers in the MCU on their own right now. Falcon is way too green, Bucky has murdered too many people and is probably still mentally unstable.
 

timedesk

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I really hope we get more Nebula in this movie. she, Rocket, Drax, and Mantis are my favorite parts of the Guardians franchise. I would be thrilled if she is pivotal in taking down Thanos. I am also so ready for Thor and Carol to be friends, they seem like they will have a fun dynamic.
 

denx

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I really hope we get more Nebula in this movie. she, Rocket, Drax, and Mantis are my favorite parts of the Guardians franchise. I would be thrilled if she is pivotal in taking down Thanos. I am also so ready for Thor and Carol to be friends, they seem like they will have a fun dynamic.
Infinity War spent a lot of time with Gamora. I'm sure Nebula will get a similar treatment here.

I'm rooting for Nebula to get the killing blow on Thanos tbh.
 

timedesk

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Infinity War spent a lot of time with Gamora. I'm sure Nebula will get a similar treatment here.

I'm rooting for Nebula to get the killing blow on Thanos tbh.
Hell yeah, I would love for her to finish him off. The way I see it, she is the one who has personally suffered the most because of him.
 

Gridlock

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First look at Thanos from Endgame in the latest Empire:




I remember in a Era thread pre Infinity War thread someone posted a shot of MCU Thanos looking like a badass and right next to him a picture of Fox’s Apacolypse from their X-Men movie.

I laughed so hard and every time I see a pic of Thanos looking like a G I think of that comparison.
 

Pachimari

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I really hope we get more Nebula in this movie. she, Rocket, Drax, and Mantis are my favorite parts of the Guardians franchise. I would be thrilled if she is pivotal in taking down Thanos. I am also so ready for Thor and Carol to be friends, they seem like they will have a fun dynamic.
Infinity War spent a lot of time with Gamora. I'm sure Nebula will get a similar treatment here.

I'm rooting for Nebula to get the killing blow on Thanos tbh.
Hell yeah, I would love for her to finish him off. The way I see it, she is the one who has personally suffered the most because of him.
This is what I've been hoping for for more than a year. Nebula need that killing blow on Thanos. And hopefully she have a larger role.

I also still hope all the dusted heroes will have big parts to play in the third act. I need my Scarlet Witch and Star-Lord back in this kicking ass.
 

Switch Back 9

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This is what I've been hoping for for more than a year. Nebula need that killing blow on Thanos. And hopefully she have a larger role.

I also still hope all the dusted heroes will have big parts to play in the third act. I need my Scarlet Witch and Star-Lord back in this kicking ass.
Scarlet Witch was such a boring and unnecessary character. No offense if you dig her but she's just sooooo bland and uninteresting and while I realize her comic powers are very hard to show on screen, "Red energy stuff" is so lame and lacks any effort on behalf of the writers to showcase a cool and unique power.
 

Einchy

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Hair scientists, how long would it normally take a human to grow this much hair?



2 days? 5? A week?!
 

Kin5290

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Only little issue I have with the New Avengers setup is that the big members should really be part timers due to their responsibilities elsewhere. Black Panther has a kingdom to run, Carol protects the Skrulls and the galaxy, and Dr Strange protects dimensions. The current Avengers may go their separate ways now and them but most of the time they do train together and have a home base to operate out of, so they responded to threats faster than the world's governments could.

Am I overthinking this? Or is this something fans wonder about that is just gonna get handwaved?
Thor's been on Asgard business basically full time since Avengers AoU.
Scarlet Witch was such a boring and unnecessary character. No offense if you dig her but she's just sooooo bland and uninteresting and while I realize her comic powers are very hard to show on screen, "Red energy stuff" is so lame and lacks any effort on behalf of the writers to showcase a cool and unique power.
Yeah, it’s pretty crazy how visually uninteresting Scarlet Witch’s powers are, especially compared to Dr. Strange. She’s basically “anything the plot demands, and red”.
 

Gamer @ Heart

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I don't get the end with Thor, why does he like her? Can she wield the Mjolnir or something? There's zero context.
It's a masculine bravado move to make someone you're staring down flinch. At least in the US in certain subcultures. It typically involves a quick little 1/10 of a second flinch, like your going to strike but in this case it was a giant hammer whizzing by her head. The smirk is her acknowledgement of his failed attempt. Not something a person staring down a god would normally do, thus immediate respect.
 

Ithil

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I remember in a Era thread pre Infinity War thread someone posted a shot of MCU Thanos looking like a badass and right next to him a picture of Fox’s Apacolypse from their X-Men movie.

I laughed so hard and every time I see a pic of Thanos looking like a G I think of that comparison.
I also have to laugh at those who claimed Thanos should have been done with makeup and practical costumes instead of motion capture. That sure turned out well for Apocalypse.
 

SturokBGD

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Why is Danai Gurira the only person on the poster that isn't also billed on the poster?

EDIT: ah, never mind. Just saw the other thread.
 

black070

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A cold open with Clint being forced to watch his family vanish infront of his very eyes would be a damn good way to set the tone. I could imagine the title card playing right after with his cries still ringing in the background.
 

less

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Thanos looks amazing in that armor. Looking forward to watching him beatdown some heroes again.
 

kurahador

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I think we'll only get some sort of tease to X-Men and F4 in comic-con or Far From Home considering both will be in the same month.
 
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