Yeah, I love them. Always feels odd when I see people trashing them.
It's not?
I guess I disagree with your first paragraph - it could just indicate a time skip.
It says "Strat_XXXX : Archive". It is not clear enough to say for sure it says 1983. I personally think it says 1503.
It doesn't. someone was helpful enough to post a high quality file of the trailer in the thread. It's STRAT_1503 or STRAT_IS03.
There is an ARCHIVE label/button next to that and on the other side are "read" and "sort" buttons. You can debate whether ARCHIVE indicates archive footage, or is simply the option to archive live footage coming into the video feed, but that video is definitely not from 1983.
Also, in back of Scott there appears to be a modern security cam or intercom, rising up from the ground. You can see it in the wide shot, but not the closeup.
And the final nail in the coffin for the 83 argument? The van again. License Plates in 1983 in California looked like this:
The license plate on the front of the X-Con van (which was again remodeled in AMATW2) has a current plate using a design that didn't come into use until 1992:
unless Scott found a way to take that Van through the portal with him (which would be absurd), it's in the present day. And "marvel put a fake van there with fake plates" seems to be unlikely.
Unfortunately I bet we're going to see more people act like their talking about theories and shit, but their really talking about plot leaks and shit.
Casting is pretty much public knowledge, but if we shouldn't, then I'll stop.
Avengers Compound used to be a Stark Facility. Pretty sure Howard Stark has some advanced tech, seeing as how he was able to create Captain America and allmeant to post the photo of the cam/intercom so here it is,
Whatever that is back there appears to be a fairly modern cam/security/intercom setup. There was definitely nothing like that in use in the 80s or even the 90s. The wireless and camera tech to make it work didn't exist.
This is present day footage.
I was talking more so about the machine used to create Cap, rather than the serum.It was a stark warehouse, not a research facility. Howard Stark didn't create the Captain America formula, Professor Erskine did- and when he died no one was able to replicate it. Stark assisted in the effort but that was not his tech. Hydra ALMOST managed to replicate it with Red Skull and Winter Soldier but never got 100% of the way there.
And no, we know at least as late as the mid 90s thanks to the Captain Marvel trailer that SHIELD was still using pagers to text message each other as a form of "cutting edge" communication.
Random equipment from a stark warehouse in the 80s wouldn't have outclassed SHIELD tech a decade later.
Perhaps they could have named it AVENGERS EDGEGAME?
It wasn't trash! It was fresh, ripe and fully consumable! No need to throw away fresh content...
Too bad it had no worth for you Mr. Jett. Thankfully for those that wanted to be teased it plenty of "worth".
I think he may be a small player in this one...
It's reaching to say that a guy who helped build and operate the machine to create Cap would have some sort of advanced tech? What? Lol Just because it didn't exist to the modern public in that time frame doesn't mean SHEILD or the biggest arms manufacturer in the world wouldn't have something advanced. I mean, he helped put an entire man's consciousness into a mainframe in a SHEILD base. If he can figure that out, I'm sure he could get something like a modern camera system up a couple decades before it hits the mainstream public.You're reaching, buddy. What created Cap was the serum. The machines were only used to Stabilize the process. Erskine came up with all of that himself, it wasn't Howard Stark. He used it to create Red Skull for HYDRA *before* creating Steve Rogers. It didn't work perfectly on Skull because of who he was- a corrupt individual would result in a corrupt process which is WHY Steve Rogers got chosen. Other than his physical appearance, Red Skull was an exact match for Rogers in combat.
Your excuses are getting pretty old. That's obviously a modern intercom/security setup, designed to use WiFi/RFID or similar to gain access. They are extremely common today, but did not exist in the 80s or 90s. Howard Stark didn't invent those things or anything similar to it- he worked on military equipment, bombs, and similar.
The most likely explanation, given the van, and the security setup is that this is modern footage- not that Howard Stark invented Bluetooth and didn't tell anybody about it.
This is the last time I'm addressing you BTW. no need to respond.
edit: also, this is the security footage from 1991 when Winter Soldier killed Howard Stark outside of whatever facility he was heading to with his serum.
Why would random security footage from a warehouse in the 1980s have drastically better image quality and fidelity than footage from a secure facility in 1991?
Again, the camera tech to make that video of scott didn't exist in the 1980s, even for stark. Game, Set, Match.
