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Avengers: Endgame will not outgross Avatar worldwide. Who will make an avatar bet about that?
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I think most people don't expect it to beat Avatar so this doesn't really feel like a bold thread or challenge. Of course there will always be the odd person making huge claims but it doesn't mean the majority of people think that.
It'll probably sneak past Titanic WW which would be a huge achievement.
It'll probably sneak past Titanic WW which would be a huge achievement.
Why are you referencing Spider Man 2 and Empire Strikes Back as if Endgame is being propositioned in a similar way to those movies lol? Notice that both those movies are the middle of the story. And now look at their sequels that were the end of their storyline and look at how much they grossed. Endgame is not the middle of a story arc. It's the conclusion of everything the MCU has built up to. I fail to see how someone can miss this simple fact and compare it to movies like the ones you did as if they were comparable at all. When both the series referenced have the very evidence that finales absolutely lead to a boost in the box office.
In my opinion you will be easily proven wrong. A movie that is looking extremely likely to open to over $1b in one weekend will cruise past Infinity War's WW total, atrocious legs or not. That is so big an opening that this is basically guaranteed, even with the worst legs possible (which i doubt will happen anyway because everything points to this being an extreme crowd pleaser).
Why do you think that? I can't see any way that it is going to fall short of IW.
To overcomes Avatar where would the growth be? Even with China it's a tall order when Avatar made an additional $700,000,000+ more after hitting $2 billion!
The more I think about Avatars' total number the more absurd it becomes even a decade later.
The more I think about Avatars' total number the more absurd it becomes even a decade later.
I just don't see Endgame building on Infinity War audience wise. I feel like Infinity War and the original Avengers are about the peak of what you will see for the MCU outside of other special factors (like the large black turnout for Black Panther for example). Taking that into account, and the fact that one would have had to have seen Infinity War before seeing Endgame, I feel like whatever Endgame makes will be within the domestic gross of Infinity War.
Basically, I see IW's domestic gross as Endgame's max.
If the film fails to meet expectations, cinematically speaking—in any way—then yeah, no chance.
But if it's as good as the hype is building it to be, then Avatar's record of I'll be in serious jeopardy.
But if it's as good as the hype is building it to be, then Avatar's record of I'll be in serious jeopardy.
lol you guys are crazy with this easy nonsense. I mean most of us will be rooting for Endgame, but to say something like it will do $2.8b ww easy is just ludicrous.
Of course people liked the movie. Hell, I enjoyed the movie. The word of mouth regarding Avatar was insane, and a big part of it was the frenzy around its 3d and it gave a huge bump to 3d cinema. I can't speak for everyone and everywhere, but at least that's the impression I got from around here (Portugal), and back then, the 3d tickets were much more expensive than the regular ones. I'm not saying that's the only reason Avatar did well, but I do believe it was the reason it did as well as it did (aka the most profitable movie ever made).
Also, 3d movies are on decline since then, "and that's a fact.":
https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/05/3...NvbS8&guce_referrer_cs=celsjofJEgPaEOUgrdy6HA
Avatar was a product of circumstance and a perfect storm. That's not to knock it by any means, but let's keep it real here: it's a decent-to-good movie that road the waves of its circumstances that most films couldn't dream of.
Cameron won't have that luxury next time, but it's foolhardy to think A2 won't make bank even if only out of curiosity from the people who liked the first Avatar.
Avatar 2 is already has a floor of a billion (conservative.)
A3 is the real test IMO
Cameron won't have that luxury next time, but it's foolhardy to think A2 won't make bank even if only out of curiosity from the people who liked the first Avatar.
Avatar 2 is already has a floor of a billion (conservative.)
A3 is the real test IMO
There is what 22 marvel movies and only 1 avatar movie right? Marvel already won in the movie department over both star wars and avatar combined. Once avatar gets those other movies finished it will take second place from star wars.
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That is a mystery. It might be, it might not be. So are you in or out?
In or out?
Yeah, that combination of James Cameron and newfangled 3D visuals was a once-in-a-lifetime thing. Even Endgame won't be able to strike lightning like that, though it will certainly break all of the opening weekend records and maybe some of the opening month records as well.
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LOL
In what world does it make 300 million more than infinity war a year later.
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That is even more insane than saying it will beat Avatar worldwide.
I stand by it. This train is moving WAY faster than Infinity War. Y'all have no idea how many people have binged the whole saga since then and have never seen one in theatres.
It has a shot at Avatar, although I wouldn't put money on it just yet. But there is no possible way in hell it doesn't beat Infinity War. I'll be fairly surprised if it doesn't beat Titanic, unless it's somehow terrible and nobody wants to see it again.
I think Endgame will have a bigger opening weekend and worse drops than IW.
Doesn't help Cameron can't help himself to chime in every month or so to shit talk superhero/comicbook movies, at this point he's asking for it, lol.
What if end game beats detective Pikachu with decent legs? I'm talking 300m opening, 150 2nd weekend, 70-80 million third weekend. And detective Pikachu makes only 60ish million.
I don't think its possible for a movie to "smash" TFA's domestic number. A movie might sneak past it eventually but it's domestic performance is hard to improve on. Domestically I think Endgame should do about 700-750m.
As much as I'd like to see Endgame overtake it, I think Avatar will retain the top spot globally. I could at best see Endgame take second place though.
you think it will increase over 250 mil domestic from Infinity War?
I think it's possible.
I'm going to keep saying it, no one is projecting this to go as high as I think. That's fine.
Do you think he stands on a soapbox in the middle of the street or something.
If he gets asked a question during an interview, he's gonna answer it.
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