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Avengers: Infinity War |OT| Destiny Still Arrives (Unmarked Spoilers)
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Fuck yeah, the portal games was crazy. I'm down with connecting space/earth through more magic bsery.
Many people care about their relationship. It's one of the most important in Marvel.
Because they would have shown him dead.
Him and Valkyrie are 100% alive. They weren't in the movie and they made a point to say half of the Asgardians were killed.
In the comics Thanos sends Outriders (they're not mindless beasts there) to gather information about the planets Thanos wants to conquer.
I've aired some of my disappointments regarding fake outs and death, and I stand by them for now. Looking forward to having my mind changed by time, discussion, or the next film, but now I'll get on to some other subjects.
There was definitely a flame of excitement that lit up in me when I realized I was seeing Spider-Man take on extra terrestrial threats for the first time on screen. It's such a change of pace compared to his past movies and a good example of how this universe is truly opening up and giving us exciting new possibilities. That whole action scene in New York may have been my favorite part of the film
The iron spider suit was pretty fantastic, visually. Also a fresh angle on Spider-Man , compared to his past films. However, I was a little confused at how easily and quickly he was able to decipher and take advantage of all the suits capabilities in battle. I didn't want a ten minute Iron-Spider tutorial scene, but I couldn't help but wonder.
There was definitely a flame of excitement that lit up in me when I realized I was seeing Spider-Man take on extra terrestrial threats for the first time on screen. It's such a change of pace compared to his past movies and a good example of how this universe is truly opening up and giving us exciting new possibilities. That whole action scene in New York may have been my favorite part of the film
The iron spider suit was pretty fantastic, visually. Also a fresh angle on Spider-Man , compared to his past films. However, I was a little confused at how easily and quickly he was able to decipher and take advantage of all the suits capabilities in battle. I didn't want a ten minute Iron-Spider tutorial scene, but I couldn't help but wonder.
Guys, the sequel will be time travelling to collect Avengers to attack Thanos before he's ready and they'll title it...
AVENGERS 4EVER
Eh? EH?
AVENGERS 4EVER
Eh? EH?
I hope that since Ragnarok has come to fruition the Gods will be reborn and we get Kid Loki:
And then when Cassie grows up in a few years-she and Loki can star in Young Avengers.
Kid Loki and Leah? Yeah please!
If Avengers 4 set pics are a hint I'm guessing time travel.
Was going to Shuri to remove the gem more meaningful that just having Vison survive the stone being destroyed?
Cap was pretty sidelined in this, which I'm okay with. I just hope we get a lot more epic shit with him in the next one.
At least he got that one moment with Thanos though
At least he got that one moment with Thanos though
*snap* and black screen, credits, then the disappearing scenes and the post-credit scene tacked on at the end. That would have had people leaving the theater in shambles.
I interpreted it as him lying about the "one" way to victory. Meaning, there was no future that possibly avoided Thanos getting all the stones and wiping out half of all life. But he knew that the world would need Tony so he gave the stone willingly to ensure that he would at least survive.
Rhodes calling Ross out for his bullshit about Cap and regretting the accords is the kind of development I want to see.
Tony realizing Pete isn't going to just go home and watch the world end, and then his mentee dies in his arms is the kind of development I want to see.
I don't think non comic book readers realize that comic books have deaths and reversals all the time. It doesn't mean they have no meaning or stakes. It doesn't mean there's no consequences.
They serve more as motivation and characterization than anything in the Marvel Universe.
But it doesn't mean the survivors don't remember.
Tony realizing Pete isn't going to just go home and watch the world end, and then his mentee dies in his arms is the kind of development I want to see.
I don't think non comic book readers realize that comic books have deaths and reversals all the time. It doesn't mean they have no meaning or stakes. It doesn't mean there's no consequences.
They serve more as motivation and characterization than anything in the Marvel Universe.
But it doesn't mean the survivors don't remember.
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Unfortunately some idiots at my theater couldn't stop giggling at him.
No prob.
Yes, and how they lose is an admittedly valiant and quasi-successful manner (wiping out the Black Order, almost overpowering Thanos) followed by complete and utter defeat.
No one in the audience cares about future events. This is mostly Marvel's fault for prepping you into thinking "oh I wonder what Thor Ragnarok is about" like 3 years before it comes out, and their platter of end-credits "ooooh look who's coming next year!", but the point of Infinity War is about what happens in Infinity War and before. People are sad because in Infinity War these heroes die in this way. Avengers 4 does not exist. Hell, movies, as a concept, are irrelevant, because Infinity War and the 10 years of MCU have them so immersed, that it's like people they know actually died.
And no, Tony dying wouldn't be more powerful--there's a reason why Peter Parker, young, teenage Spider-Man dying in Tony's arms, begging not to die as he's erased from existence is the biggest, saddest death scene, because he doesn't die like a hero, he dies like a kid. Tony dying like a hero is expected, in fact, because of the fact we had three Iron Man movies we thought he'd die anyway. But he doesn't. Everyone else dies. And now we get to see the first first Avenger handle something like that, which is much more impactful than pretty much tossing him aside. If he died here, he certainly isn't coming back later.
Since we didn't properly see him losing the first uncle, it's just rehashing what we already know about Peter Parker, and it won't really change anything about him. Frankly, let's not make Tony Stark anymore important to the Spider-Man mythos than he already is in the movies. He makes his suit, mentors him, etc.
They are paying attention. They don't care. Because they aren't watching Avengers 4, they're watching Infinity War, and again, they lose and die.
Do you really think they should do the "cut to black" bullshit, breaking the immersion, turning every conversation into "wait, what happened and who died?", and forcing Avengers 4 to waste time naming everyone who died, which if it's still going to play out the same means that Spider-Man, Black Panther, etc. still died and would be even less believable because we didn't see it, instead of getting to the point, so that the idea that the heroes come back isn't immediately obvious?
also I was dying at spidey going at Thanos using Strange's portals
"magic. magic. magic with a kick." or whatever it was. soooogood.gif
"magic. magic. magic with a kick." or whatever it was. soooogood.gif
"Hello, I'm Ultron now without the Stone! Hahah!
Wait, I have no body. I'm just a screen. Oh god, fuck this"
nah that would have been terrible. You don't emotional and dramatically important scenes in credits
I am sharing mine to because these are all opinions and again my opinion that you are being nitpicky isn't wrong though, it feels like that's exactly what it is with the points you picked out. I thought it was very well handled and with full idea of what the consequences will be is unknown but I thought this movie handled it superbly.
There is something really great about the scene where Strange transforms one attack into something harmless and Thanos reacts so realistically, it's those small moments that really make him believable.
No one will wait through seven-minutes of credits to see how the movie ends.
That's longer than the actual death scenes in the first place.
Strange knows the snap will happen, he's playing the long game victory.
Now that's a first
I thought the fight was awesome just to see Okoye and Black Widow team up as kind of a mirror to Cap and BP teaming up.
Still digesting my thoughts on this but I think what most surprised me was the degree to which they did successfully convey the stones having "different powers" onscreen. The only time where it felt a bit generic was the final punchup, where it looked like he was using "blue and purple blasts" indiscriminately, otherwise it was like "oh reality stone does this, space stone does that, yeah it all tracks"
If the deaths all get overturned it doesn't change how damn dark this movie felt and it doesn't change Tony Stark watching Peter die in his arms.
Just saw this earlier today, and I loved it overall. Though I can understand some of the issues people are seeing with the film. However, I personally feel many of these will be alleviated with more understanding and the events in the sequel.
Regarding the deaths in this, I too was a little dissatisfied with how it was only the new Avengers dying. However after giving it some thought, I think it makes a lot of sense. This film was all about Thanos, he arrives, fucks shit up, and wins, it was all about him and his development, and the heroes were just . The original Avengers are in an even worse place than where they were at the beginning of the film, they are divided, many of their friends are dead, their legacy is destroyed. Thor in particular even mentions early on how he has nothing to lose, well it turns out he had a lot more to lose. They also have no one to pass their legacy onto. They all utterly failed and have to deal with that loss in the sequel. "There was an idea—Stark knows this—called the Avengers Initiative. The idea was to bring together a group of remarkable people, to see if they could become something more. To fight the battles that we never could." They lost because the team was still broken.
Whilst this film was a Thanos movie, I think the sequel will focus on the core Avengers again ("perfectly balanced" you might say). Anyway, I think it will all be out the original team overcoming their loss from Infinity War, coming back together and uniting to become something more, however they will end up making their sacrifice to undo the snap. Had they died in this film, I think they would have come back anyway for the sequel to possibly die again, which would have felt a little clumsy and cheap. I would bet they end up using this scene somehow as well:
Regarding the deaths in this, I too was a little dissatisfied with how it was only the new Avengers dying. However after giving it some thought, I think it makes a lot of sense. This film was all about Thanos, he arrives, fucks shit up, and wins, it was all about him and his development, and the heroes were just . The original Avengers are in an even worse place than where they were at the beginning of the film, they are divided, many of their friends are dead, their legacy is destroyed. Thor in particular even mentions early on how he has nothing to lose, well it turns out he had a lot more to lose. They also have no one to pass their legacy onto. They all utterly failed and have to deal with that loss in the sequel. "There was an idea—Stark knows this—called the Avengers Initiative. The idea was to bring together a group of remarkable people, to see if they could become something more. To fight the battles that we never could." They lost because the team was still broken.
Whilst this film was a Thanos movie, I think the sequel will focus on the core Avengers again ("perfectly balanced" you might say). Anyway, I think it will all be out the original team overcoming their loss from Infinity War, coming back together and uniting to become something more, however they will end up making their sacrifice to undo the snap. Had they died in this film, I think they would have come back anyway for the sequel to possibly die again, which would have felt a little clumsy and cheap. I would bet they end up using this scene somehow as well:
That's good quality for the film only being out several days.There is something really great about the scene where Strange transforms one attack into something harmless and Thanos reacts so realistically, it's those small moments that really make him believable.
Annoying.
Slightly related but when Thanos turned Mantis into a squiggly piece of rubber, the guy next to me blew out a chuckle, which
threw a wrench in the horror I felt.
I couldn't blame him, it seemed like a natural reaction, but it was the opposite of where I was at. Disturbing stuff. Honestly wish it would have remained that way for Mantis. I like being creeped out.
Yep. The entire time after the snap where people are dusting has them looking around scared as shit. They have no idea what's happening. It was a realization moment for all of them: "This is way, way bigger than we ever imagined."
Especially when you think they had started to turn the tide of that battle, particularly when Thor showed up. Two of Thanos' main guardians died to Black Widow/Okoye/Scarlet Witch and Banner in the Hulkbuster, Thor destroyed multiple ships, Cap and BP were destroying folks, etc. Then that moment of dread when Thanos arrives and it's practically silent. Then each of them are just shrugged off one by one with seemingly little effort by Thanos. Thor looks like he swoops in and saves the day, they're excited! It happened! Then the snap, and... oh shit. The smallest spark of hope wasn't just snuffed out, it was obliterated, and multiple friends/heroes literally disintegrate in front of them. Thanos doesn't even stay to gloat, he just peaces the fuck out because overall, they really don't matter to him.
The balancing act on this movie is ridiculous. So many characters, so many relationships and backstories, 6 stones with separate abilities + introducing Thanos and his whole mission on top of all that. That they were able to pull this all off in one movie is crazy.
This was from a clip package Marvel was promoting. Since it's not rated they removed the finger digitally.
Much like Hulk.
Hear me out...what if they go to the one man whose already kind of dead? The one man who deals with the half living regularly and feels it's time to step out of the dark to help these "Avengers" for once.
"Who, me?"
"Who, me?"
also Civil War started this thought for me but I think now we can all agree that the Russo Brothers use superhero powers better than anything else I've ever seen in a comic book movie. the way they hone in on each characters' individual powers and find cool ways to do different things with them and then also combine different characters' powers together is just amazing.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. "We're in the endgame now."
He had his moments for sure, but let's remember it's his choices that led to a kid dying.
(I mean sort of. I just am super team-cap, Iron Man was great in this)
I loved Strange going back on his word that he'd choose the stone over Stark or Peter though
The 'girl fight' moment didn't bother me, but it did strike me as antiquated when I was watching the movie.
I'm sure they did it to highlight the female heroes, but it still stuck out. Those characters don't team up and fight because of some power synergy, it's just the female characters vs. the female villain trope.
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