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Einchy

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I mean, I've no idea how she will be portrayed but just going off the actress that they got, she a pretty good candidate to be the next lead. Brie Larson has good comedic timing and she's obviously a great dramatic actress.
 

Anth0ny

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The actors who eventually want to stop playing them?

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Einchy

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Lock Chris Evans and RDJ in a basement for all I care, those fuckers ain't ever gonna stop playing Cap and Tony. They'll be 90 still punching bad dudes.
 

Lurker

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Spidey leading makes no sense. He's a kid.

The leader will be either Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel or The Wasp.

Not immediately he won't but he will be. I'm pretty sure we will get like an era post-Avengers where the villains will then come out of the woodwork and the heroes will be scattered all over until they form a new one again. :)))
 
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The same guy said he'll be leaking clips today or tomorrow.
He's also been leaking deleted scenes from Justice League
 

Creamium

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My main fear is that the movie will feel bloated because it'll have to juggle a great amount of characters in limited time. It's like Avengers/Civil War, only with way higher numbers. I already felt Civil War was hurting because of this.
 

Thugnificent

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So excited for Infinity War and these shots are just making me even more so. I wonder what the runtime is going to be.
 

spookyghost

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My main fear is that the movie will feel bloated because it'll have to juggle a great amount of characters in limited time. It's like Avengers/Civil War, only with way higher numbers. I already felt Civil War was hurting because of this.

Yeah it is a concern but I think Civil War had a much steeper hill to climb in that regard. It had to take time to explain why these people would fight as the conflict was ideological in nature and intended to fracture the group. This meant that for most of the runtime it was having to structure conflict and introduce new characters without the heros having an easily summarised common cause.

By contrast Infinity War's plot will be much more streamlined, it has already been established that the singular big bad Thanos will be visiting multiple characters with a simple purpose and if the movie is following him as a protagonist it should feel reasonably natural that the group of heroes will want to defend themselves and expand as he progresses.

Infinity war should be the film in which all of the world building really pays off, the pieces are in position and require only a brief introduction outside of the antagonists, who will be the narrstive thrust of the movie.
 

Creamium

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Yeah it is a concern but I think Civil War had a much steeper hill to climb in that regard. It had to take time to explain why these people would fight as the conflict was ideological in nature and intended to fracture the group. This meant that for most of the runtime it was having to structure conflict and introduce new characters without the heros having an easily summarised common cause.

By contrast Infinity War's plot will be much more streamlined, it has already been established that the singular big bad Thanos will be visiting multiple characters with a simple purpose and if the movie is following him as a protagonist it should feel reasonably natural that the group of heroes will want to defend themselves and expand as he progresses.

Infinity war should be the film in which all of the world building really pays off, the pieces are in position and require only a brief introduction outside of the antagonists, who will be the narrstive thrust of the movie.

That's a good point about the streamlined plot, it definitely doesn't need as much exposition as Civil War. In any sense, I hope they can pull this off because it can be an amazing movie if they do right by the different groups of heroes. Guardians meeting the earth heroes is one of the main reasons I'm so excited for this.
 
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Yeah it is a concern but I think Civil War had a much steeper hill to climb in that regard. It had to take time to explain why these people would fight as the conflict was ideological in nature and intended to fracture the group. This meant that for most of the runtime it was having to structure conflict and introduce new characters without the heros having an easily summarised common cause.

By contrast Infinity War's plot will be much more streamlined, it has already been established that the singular big bad Thanos will be visiting multiple characters with a simple purpose and if the movie is following him as a protagonist it should feel reasonably natural that the group of heroes will want to defend themselves and expand as he progresses.

Infinity war should be the film in which all of the world building really pays off, the pieces are in position and require only a brief introduction outside of the antagonists, who will be the narrstive thrust of the movie.
solid point, it really is the cumulation of the MCU so far
 

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I get that some of these actors eventually might get tired of it on but it's on Marvel to make the role appealing to them. Chris Hemsworth wanted to move on from Thor until they brought in Taika as well.

Make movies where they can flex their acting muscles and keep it fresh with new concepts and it'll be fine.
 

AquaWateria

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I imagine Strange will be too concerned with cosmic threats, so won't be willing to lead the team on a day to day basis. I'm going to bet on whichever movie performs better out of Black Panther and Captain Marvel, with Panther having the edge right now because of his popularity from Civil War and the hype building for his movie next year.

I am willing to bet it will be Black Panther who will edge out Captain Marvel only because us black folks got that movie covered. I know I will for sure watch the movie multiple times. Then again judging by Wonder Women's reception it could go either way.

They will need a leader that's intelligent if Stark does end up dying tho. Although Captain Marvel can be the brawn of the team.
 

Famassu

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I don't really see a reason to recast when the Iron Mans and Captain Americas and such can just be replaced with already established (and maybe even completely new, made-for-MCU) alternatives like how Captain America's mantle has been taken on by many characters.

With how long making movies takes and considering sequels aren't released every year, they can easily get 10-15 years out of every Miles Morales, Winter Cap and Kamala Khan if they continue with the "trilogy for main characters + a few roles in event movies and a couple of smaller cameos" type of thing for everyone. So there's really no reason to worry or wonder about about Tony Stark not being a (commonly) recurring character in MCU anymore because at this pace they've got decades of characters and their stories to tell without him, and the alternatives can breathe some new air to the storylines of Iron Man etc. when a new character takes the role behind the mask.

And assuming they don't straight up kill these characters off, they can still leave the door open for some of them to appear in major events like Infinity War as well as Logan like last hurraahs 10+ years from now.
 

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Tbh I'm shocked Hopkins came back after how phoned in the last two Thor movies were from him. Especially TDW
 

NotLiquid

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Tbh I'm shocked Hopkins came back after how phoned in the last two Thor movies were from him. Especially TDW
The man was in Transformers 5. I'm sure his standards aren't so high that he'd have any qualms whatsoever being in Thor again, especially if
they'd told him that this would be the last time the character ever shows up in the MCU.
 
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matrix-cat

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In like 2050 it's going to be a huge hype reveal when a 70-year-old Chris Evans comes out of retirement for a role in whatever the big team-up movie is that year. Like the old guard coming back for the new Star Wars movies.

(Assuming people are still seeing movies in 2050 and humanity hasn't just hooked itself up to VR porn machines or whatever, obviously.)
 

AlexCampy89

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I was banned for giving the same pics via PM "somewhere else" with the accusation of sharing illegal/pirated stuff, which is.not true obviously.

Oh God, I'm sooo glad to be here!
 
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Ithil

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The reason no one ever dies for real in comics is they're comics, they're drawn and done by many writers eternally. Whether a character is dead for one year, five years, fifteen years, another writer will always bring them back when it suits them. The sliding timeline of comics means there are never really any permanent changes.

With a fixed film and TV universe they have already avoided many of the issues of a comic universe. They've kept everything consistent, they've kept a solid timeline (that's roughly along the times of the film releases) and the continuity has been tight with only very minor retcons or snafus. They ought to do the same with death. If a character is killed off (and I mean killed off, not just "seemingly dead in the film but actually is ok later") they should stay dead.

For Cap, there should be no recast for Steve Rogers. When he's gone, he's gone. You can have another character take up the Cap mantle, but that's all. That's happening in universe as a torch passing and it's fine.
 

burgervan

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What happens if this movie ends up being a disappointment? I highly doubt it will be bad (Marvel knows what they're doing at this point) but I could definitely see it not living up to expectations.

After so much build up, an okay movie would throw a huge bucket of cold water on the MCU.
 
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What happens if this movie ends up being a disappointment? I highly doubt it will be bad (Marvel knows what they're doing at this point) but I could definitely see it not living up to expectations.

After so much build up, an okay movie would throw a huge bucket of cold water on the MCU.

I think the first part being a disappointment won't matter as much if the second part delivers. However, if the second part disappoints, then it's an issue since it would dillute the first part being good.
 
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If both movies arent at least as good as WS/CW, im going to be really dissapointed.

I personally have faith in the Russo's to deliver. Loved WS but loved CW even more. And that they pulled off CW with several new character introductions so effortlessly, it tells me that they can absolutely nail an actual Avengers movie.
 

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What happens if this movie ends up being a disappointment? I highly doubt it will be bad (Marvel knows what they're doing at this point) but I could definitely see it not living up to expectations.

After so much build up, an okay movie would throw a huge bucket of cold water on the MCU.

The films are an end to phase 2 right? so I guess it doesn't matter too much as phase 3 is almost a reboot in terms of new characters and settings. I'd be more worried about the film being amazing, but box office numbers dwelling due to superhero apathy after so many films.
 

Ithil

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The films are an end to phase 2 right? so I guess it doesn't matter too much as phase 3 is almost a reboot in terms of new characters and settings. I'd be more worried about the film being amazing, but box office numbers dwelling due to superhero apathy after so many films.
This is the end of Phase 3. Phase 4 is expected to be a "new beginning" of sorts, probably with a new overaching story and a lot of new characters or characters getting their own movie for the first time, and probably the retirement of several long running characters.

Also people have been talking about "THE BUBBLE" and "superhero fatigue" for at least five years now. It doesn't exist. Superhero films are a staple now. Shit ones will get shit BO results, good ones will get good BO results, generally.

People trying to read some kind of narrative from varying results are just trying to create whatever narrative they are imagining.
 

Minthara

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The films are an end to phase 2 right? so I guess it doesn't matter too much as phase 3 is almost a reboot in terms of new characters and settings. I'd be more worried about the film being amazing, but box office numbers dwelling due to superhero apathy after so many films.

We are currently Phase 3. What comes after is "Phase 4" although Feige has indicated they may be reworking the whole "Phase" idea.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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What happens if this movie ends up being a disappointment? I highly doubt it will be bad (Marvel knows what they're doing at this point) but I could definitely see it not living up to expectations.

After so much build up, an okay movie would throw a huge bucket of cold water on the MCU.

Age of Ultron being a WoM disappointment and underperforming the first Avengers didn't harm the movies that came directly after.

Audiences expect different things from the standalone films and the team up films.
 
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What happens if this movie ends up being a disappointment? I highly doubt it will be bad (Marvel knows what they're doing at this point) but I could definitely see it not living up to expectations.

After so much build up, an okay movie would throw a huge bucket of cold water on the MCU.
If it's a disappointment I go on with my life. I just sat through a shitty Justice League movie.
 
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Age of Ultron being a WoM disappointment and underperforming the first Avengers didn't harm the movies that came directly after.

Audiences expect different things from the standalone films and the team up films.

Age of Ultron wasn't a word of mouth disappointment. Most people like it. Disappointments don't do 1.3 billion dollars at the box office.
 

PhoncipleBone

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Age of Ultron wasn't a word of mouth disappointment. Most people like it. Disappointments don't do 1.3 billion dollars at the box office.
It still did a ton of money, and in fact made more internationally than the first one did. Domestic is where it took a hit, and the legs of the film showed it didn't land as well as the first one did.
It was still a huge financial success, just not as big of one as the original.
 
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It still did a ton of money, and in fact made more internationally than the first one did. Domestic is where it took a hit, and the legs of the film showed it didn't land as well as the first one did.
It was still a huge financial success, just not as big of one as the original.

That's a more accurate statement. The domestic drop off probably has more to do with the novelty of the event being gone than anything else.
 
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So my question is, if you don't kill off all the weaker characters in the first movie or second what the heck do you have them do? Like honestly who are the heavy hitters that can even fight in the final battle against a gauntlet powered Thanos and last even a little longer?
Thor, Hulk, Doctor Strange, a fully powered Scarlet Witch (whose powers are truly unleashed once Vision is killed and she is pissed) GOTG2 power leveled Gamora and Drax and Captain Marvel. Everyone else can freakin get worked by the Black Order let alone Thanos with the Gauntlet. A bunch of them are dying; they've built to this for 10 years. Thanos is going to wreck some fools and we're all going to leave the theater crying
Yeah, some of them will have to be killed off. I don't mean the faux death stuff that can be rectified through magic shenanigans either. I want them to fully kick the bucket. Put Thanos/Black Order over in the first movie.

I am willing to bet it will be Black Panther who will edge out Captain Marvel only because us black folks got that movie covered. I know I will for sure watch the movie multiple times. Then again judging by Wonder Women's reception it could go either way.

They will need a leader that's intelligent if Stark does end up dying tho. Although Captain Marvel can be the brawn of the team.
We in there fam!

That aesthetic is so appealing.
 

Einchy

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Speaking of Hemsworth and Thor, I REALLY hope Thor is written in Infinity War the way he was in Ragnarok. Also Hulk.

Those two are such better characters in that movie than in any past MCU movie. It would be sad if they didn't transfer over 100%.
 

KodaRuss

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Speaking of Hemsworth and Thor, I REALLY hope Thor is written in Infinity War the way he was in Ragnarok. Also Hulk.

Those two are such better characters in that movie than in any past MCU movie. It would be sad if they didn't transfer over 100%.

I am sure they will be. I am sure there are going to be some good laughs in this movie but I hope it isnt too serious because it could be.
 

ZeoVGM

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Speaking of Hemsworth and Thor, I REALLY hope Thor is written in Infinity War the way he was in Ragnarok. Also Hulk.

Those two are such better characters in that movie than in any past MCU movie. It would be sad if they didn't transfer over 100%.

It won't be as blatantly over-the-top humorous but I believe I read something about Hemsworth meeting with the writers of Infinity War to make sure his arc/character from Ragnarok carried over into Infinity War properly.
 

ZeoVGM

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lmao spidey ain't leading anything

It will either be panther or strange maybe marvel

If there's a new leader, it will be Captain Marvel, I think. It would be nice to have woman as the new leader of the Avengers.

That being said, honestly, most of these guys still really enjoy doing the movies. I think there's a chance they could convince Evans to stay on for a bit longer.