Axios | Man dies after self-medicating with chloroquine

Schlorgan

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"A man has died and his wife is under critical care after the couple, both in their 60s, ingested chloroquine phosphate," one of the anti-malaria drugs that President Trump has mentioned in recent days, according to Banner Health, the hospital system that treated both patients.

Why it matters: People who self-medicate risk serious side effects or death, and it's why any messaging about chloroquine and the related hydroxychloroquine should emphasize that these drugs have not been approved to prevent or treat the new coronavirus.




Heidi Przybyla @HeidiNBC

Her husband is dead & she's in the ICU after ingesting chloroquine:

"We saw Trump on TV -- every channel -- & all of his buddies and that this was safe," she said.
"Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure."

She implored @VaughnHillyard: "Educate the people" https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1242212084647104514 …



The couple did not have coronavirus symptoms but took the chloroquine phosphate as a preventative measure. They feared contracting coronavirus.

The couple each mixed 1 tsp of chloroquine phosphate w soda.

-Within 20 minutes, they began experiencing severe sickness & called 911



"I was in the pantry stacking dog food and I just saw it sitting in the back shelf and thought, ‘Hey, isn’t that the stuff they’re talking about on TV?’ And it was."

Hillyard interviewed her from her hospital bed over the phone:

"This is the most horrible day of my life. And



it feels like, like my heart is broken and it’ll never mend. It’s just broke--dead. Like my husband."

"I’m 61. My husband is 68. We’re healthy. No, no, underlying--no diabetes or lung issues. Nothing."




"Oh my God. Don't take anything. Don't believe anything.

Don’t believe anything that the President says and his people because they don't know what they're talking about. And don't take anything--be so careful and call your doctor. This is a heart ache I'll never get over."

8:05 PM - Mar 23, 2020







Vaughn Hillyard @VaughnHillyard

"My husband was my whole life...please educate the people."

Just spoke with this Arizona woman. She's still in ICU. Please send her prayers & good energy.

I'll be posting more from our phone interview. https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1242212084647104514 …

7:46 PM - Mar 23, 2020
 
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Oct 28, 2017
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It's best not to take medical advice from someone that has lied to the American people 17,000 times in three years plus.

RIP.
 

LukeOP

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Their death is Trump’s fault. If I were their kids if they had any, I would sue and seek criminal justice against Trump.
 

Wok

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Within thirty minutes of ingestion, the couple experienced immediate effects requiring admittance to a nearby Banner Health hospital.
Most patients who become infected with COVID-19 will only require symptomatic care and self-isolation to prevent the risk of infecting others.

“We are strongly urging the medical community to not prescribe this medication to any non-hospitalized patients,” said Dr. Brooks.
Damn.
 

Akira86

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Imagine if it was Obama who said that. Newspapers would be calling him a murderer.
 

jml

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It's almost like the FDA approval process & doctor prescriptions exist for a reason. This is entirely Trump's fault for jumping the gun on this.
 

Temascos

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That's why you have extensive testing for these things! I can appreciate that people want this nightmare to end but reckless and unverified action can get you and others hurt.

So fuck Trump.
 

Seesaw15

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Live by the Trump. Die by the Trump.

Doesn't matter who they voted for dying in your 60's is super young. People will continue to be desperate and scared and it sucks this info is out there.Hope the wife makes a full recovery and the rest of the family is okay.
 

Gashprex

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Just to be clear, they ingested aquarium cleaner

A man has died and his wife is under critical care after the couple, both in their 60s, ingested chloroquine phosphate, an additive commonly used at aquariums to clean fish tanks. Within thirty minutes of ingestion, the couple experienced immediate effects requiring admittance to a nearby Banner Health hospital.
I’m assuming there is a chemical difference between aquarium cleaner and the medical pills. Seems misleading but YMMV
 
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How much did the fuckers take? Hydrochloroquine is being trialed as a treatment AND as a prophylactic in many hospitals as we speak.

Edit: Oh, they didn't take the medication, but fish aquarium cleaner. Lol.
 

Powdered Egg

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The optics would be terrible if Trump shot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue so this was his backup plan.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I feared this. Cloroquine phosphate is widely available as an Aquarium treatment. It’s Cloroquine Diphosphate and Hydroxocloroquine that are potential treatments.
 

Jake_Peralta

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They drank it because the name is similar and Trump said it cures Coronavirus. If he didn’t go on national TV and say that the FDA approved it as a treatment, would they have even thought of drinking pool cleaner?
Uh, no he didn't... This is his full tweet from this past Saturday. "HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Hopefully they will BOTH (H works better with A, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents)....."
 

DaciaJC

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I'm not certain how they obtained it, but so people are clear, chloroquine phosphate is a medication approved by the FDA for malaria and amoeba infections. If this man overdosed on it, he may well have induced an arrhythima or liver failure.
 

Christian

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Uh, no he didn't... This is his full tweet from this past Saturday. "HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Hopefully they will BOTH (H works better with A, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents)....."

Here’s a shorter video, from what he said on Friday, on his nationally televised press conference:

 

ArchedThunder

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So where are those people that were saying it was irresponsible of those Australian researchers to not release the names of the drugs they were testing?
 

Calamari41

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Uh, isn't this a prescription drug? Did they get a prescription for it and take the dose that the Dr prescribed?

Or did they drink aquarium cleaner? If the latter, that's nobody's fault but their own.

Or are we at the point as a society where we have just zero expectations of agency for people?
 

Akira86

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Well, tell me what you mean by actual media.
well. Chris Matthews getting upset over Trump's irresponsible leadership and saying on his show that Trump is directly or indirectly responsible for those deaths. An article in the Sun and the NY Post with a color corrected tangerine hued picture of Trump in a mad hatter hat, saying "drink this poison, it will cure you". MSNBC going over all the Trump "truth mistakes" and discussing how they have led to bad outcomes. Maybe a New Yorker cartoon. Or someone from the Wall Street Journal editorial and opinions pages just asking worried questions.

Those would be a nice start. I did originally literally say newspapers. and not randos on social media.
 

KtotheRoc

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I doubt this is the last we'll hear this kind of story. Trump is literally responsible for this death.
 
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Uh, no he didn't... This is his full tweet from this past Saturday. "HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Hopefully they will BOTH (H works better with A, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents)....."
In his initial press conference he mentioned remdesivir and chloroquine. In a later tweet he mentioned hydroxycholoroquine and azithromicine

 

JC Lately

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Even if/when these meds do get approved, if you have a G6PD deficiency they are more likely to kill you than the virus.
 

Musubi

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Uh, isn't this a prescription drug? Did they get a prescription for it and take the dose that the Dr prescribed?

Or did they drink aquarium cleaner? If the latter, that's nobody's fault but their own.

Or are we at the point as a society where we have just zero expectations of agency for people?
Its the latter.
 

kess

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Ingesting this stuff doesn't give you X-Kryptonite powers against the virus. If it were that easy, Gin and Tonic Man would be invincible.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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You dont think a couple of 60 year olds know better than to self medicate?
I think it's way past time that we realize that the president has the power to influence the stock market, hiring decisions, legality of mergers, judicial decisions, prosecution decisions, travel & border restrictions, primetime cable television hosts, conspiracy theorists, domestic terrorists, and yes, people looking for get-rich-quick or get-well-soon schemes.

Considering a large part of the country gets their news directly from his lips, his twitter feed, or media that regurgitates either, he literally holds the power of life and death in his hands. It is a danger to public health to have him publicly offer misleading public health advice.