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BAFTA gives Special Award to Epic Games for Unreal Engine
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Why... why now? The ceremony wasn't long ago (and at the time I remember posting that I was surprised that they hadn't done a Fellowship award this year, then looked it up and found that it's not every year anyway). But this isn't a Fellowship anyway, so... wuh?
I do think it's hard to argue against the idea that Unreal Engine does merit some acknowledgement (although again, why now? Surely coinciding it with a year of a major UE update would make more sense), so I'm not hugely against the award itself... it's just... strange.
I do think it's hard to argue against the idea that Unreal Engine does merit some acknowledgement (although again, why now? Surely coinciding it with a year of a major UE update would make more sense), so I'm not hugely against the award itself... it's just... strange.
I think it's a "We probably should acknowledge this achievement somehow" award, rather than one strictly in a category. Think of it like Walt Disney's Oscar for Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.
The guy has made a giant impact in the industry. He founded Epic, a company that had a huge impact on the shareware scene, on the shooter scene, and then their engine(s) has been the hottest one for like two generations now. Fortnite is a cultural phenomenon because he and his company knew which buttons to push despite not having a particularly strong gameplay loop at first. It's undeniable he's one of the most important people in the past few decades of gaming.
It's likewise undeniable that the company he founded is putting workers through 100-hour crunch times constantly. His company's biggest game features gambling-like hooks to addict people and make them spend a lot of hours and money on the game, locking the only good unlocks behind insane grinds or paywalls, even to the detriment of the core gameplay loop - that this is aimed at kids, in particular, makes it even more slimy. Then there's the fact they are happy to screw over paying gamers by forcing them to use their limited store for games where Epic had 0 involvement with to begin with.
If you want to give out an award to a person who had a huge importance in gaming, even in positive aspects alone the guy totally deserves it. It would be nice, however, if such awards were not given out to people based on impact alone, but also based on whether they are trying to make the gaming world a better place or not, whether they are pushing messages of inclusion and honesty or if they're just pushing for maximum profit regardless of consequences. Unfortunately, awards don't work like that.
It's likewise undeniable that the company he founded is putting workers through 100-hour crunch times constantly. His company's biggest game features gambling-like hooks to addict people and make them spend a lot of hours and money on the game, locking the only good unlocks behind insane grinds or paywalls, even to the detriment of the core gameplay loop - that this is aimed at kids, in particular, makes it even more slimy. Then there's the fact they are happy to screw over paying gamers by forcing them to use their limited store for games where Epic had 0 involvement with to begin with.
If you want to give out an award to a person who had a huge importance in gaming, even in positive aspects alone the guy totally deserves it. It would be nice, however, if such awards were not given out to people based on impact alone, but also based on whether they are trying to make the gaming world a better place or not, whether they are pushing messages of inclusion and honesty or if they're just pushing for maximum profit regardless of consequences. Unfortunately, awards don't work like that.
In terms of Unreal Engine the dude deserves it, but I really hate seeing awards given out to massive dickheads. Feel like people should take ethical considerations into the recipients as well.
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My thoughts more eloquently.
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My thoughts more eloquently.
Amy Hemmking, Sam Houser, Notch, Nolan North they don't do it every year.
It's for the impact the unreal engine has had on gaming over the that 20 years or so,
oh they've given the award to notch and riot games in the past. interesting.
Cant believe I missed that. Makes much more sense now.
I know that Notch is a fucking asshat now, but wouldnt you say he deserved to get some recognizion from MC?
The Unreal engine still the GOAT. I still remember playing Unreal for the first time. And I don't think any other engine powered so much awesome games as the UE3.
Gods, I wish Andromeda used UE4, or even a modified version of UE3.
Gods, I wish Andromeda used UE4, or even a modified version of UE3.
Okay... one, Why would an American CEO get an award from the *British* Academy For Television And Film?
Two, why not dedicate the award to the entire development team of unreal instead of their CEO who works them to the bone?
Two, why not dedicate the award to the entire development team of unreal instead of their CEO who works them to the bone?
of course, and the award was given in 2012. it's just the name jumped out to me.
Yikes. Delet this.Huh? What page are you looking at? All I see is
Fortnite seriously won a BAFTA? Wtf...
EDIT* Yea for 'Evolving Game' category over Overwatch, Rainbow Six, Elite Dangerous, Sea of Thieves and...uh Destiny 2 Forsaken (isn't that dead now with the Bungie split?).
Seems like a pretty lame category and I've only played a bit of Fortnite but isn't it 'Evolving' pretty much just new skins and dances?
Huh? What page are you looking at? All I see is
Well deserved.
Because they give it to people from any country, not just from the UK.
Technically, he started the development of the engine in 1995 all by himself.
Why wouldn't it? It's one of the most successful games of all time, and the underlying tech driving it across literally any platform you can think of and mobile is incredibly impressive.
It's well deserving of any award it gets, in my opinion, and I've never even played it.
I would think they want to acknowledge the impact Fortnite has had, alongside Unreal, on the industry.
Because it not a game the self appointed hardcore gatekeepers approve of.
I mean... in a vacuum I'd just nod and move on. UE is pretty solid and has done wonders for game devs as a whole, after all.
Outside of the vacuum, UE is still amazing but the timing is just all kinds of eyebrow-raising.
Outside of the vacuum, UE is still amazing but the timing is just all kinds of eyebrow-raising.
The award is for Epic Games. Tim Sweeney is attending to pick up the award on Epic's behalf.
Just because it's has a large fanbase doesn't mean it's award worthy! BAFTA's are supposed to be about prestige and Fortnite just doesn't really seem like an award winner for anything for me just like Marvel at the Oscars.
When I posted I didn't know what the award was specifically for, Best Game or whatever which I don't think I'd be alone in disputing except against Fortnite diehards. Evolving Game I can see but even then I'm not sure how deep the 'Evolving' part of Fortnite is. I'm not sure how much they update the gameplay except for skins, dances and maybe weapons. I would have probably tipped my hat to Rainbow Six tbh but the category itself sounds half baked.
no, its new features, radical changes on the map, new modes and other stuff on top of cosmetics
Gotcha, think it having the same map all the time (I think it does) kinda slanted my viewpoint towards smaller changes.
Huh? Literally like up to 5 hours on Switch and maybe a hour on PS4. Uninstalled now. Not sure what you are getting at.
How can you seriously argue against Fortnite getting an award when you admit yourself you've only played it a bit?
exactly what company could they give this award to that doesn't come with associated problems regarding their business or treatment of their workforce, exactly?