Sure, but at the same time it can be a great way to get into the game(play) and all the details.
BG 2 can be quite hard for new players / beginners to jump in.
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Baldur's Gate/Baldur's Gate II Enhanced Edition |OT| The Long Journey from 1998 to Your Console
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BG 2 can be quite hard for new players / beginners to jump in.
I'm more than a little concerned about the fiddlyness of these games with a controller. Some of the mage battles require piles of management.
Still...sounding good!
Still...sounding good!
Yeah, the asking price is pretty high for games that old but i would be lying if i said they aren't worth it.
I am pretty sure I lost 6 month of University thanks to New Vegas, in my case.
BTW excited as hell for this ports. I was one of those poor souls who tried to play BG1 on a Pentium 75MHz with little success, and never btohered after then even tho I've bought it again on GOG many years ago and use all the fanpatches.
Do I remember wrong, or THAC0 was already rid of in D&D3 ?
Might as well to use this as an excuse to talk about my replay on PC.
Love my mods too much to play on console anyway.
This time I made an all evil party. I'm sure it will be a lot of fun.
Using only 1 mod npc, was planning to use more, but my party setup works too well right now to change it.
Love my mods too much to play on console anyway.
This time I made an all evil party. I'm sure it will be a lot of fun.
Using only 1 mod npc, was planning to use more, but my party setup works too well right now to change it.
I don't think I ever played these (I was more of a Diablo 2 person), but I'm defintely interested in getting it, as I loved Dark Alliance.
Siege of Dragonspear is ok. Has a few cool dungeons and some fun weapons. The writing isn't all that great though and introduces some new plot threads that will never get resolved (they were planning a second expansion for BG2 but that's not happening). If people are going to skip anything in the package I'd say skip Dragonspear. It's interesting but unnecessary and the games are already long enough that there's a significant chance of getting burned out and adding another ~15 hours isn't going to help.
Yes, so it wasn't there in NWN onwards, but was there the Infinity Engine games (since it was based on 2e).
SOTD got bad user reviews because of gamer gate review bombing bullshit.
A lot of that is because the game dared to have a trans character, upon which the pissbaby gamer contingent threw a prolonged tantrum. Better be taken with a grain of salt.
I remember it was a proto-gamergate because it included a trans character, which was actually in line with the Forgotten Realms lore.
Mentioned this in the review thread, but I had just a bit of time this morning to wander around Candlekeep. I love the direct movement. It feels very smooth. Combat is definitely going to be slower with the new control scheme, but I think it's very workable. A lot of work and care were put in making this function on consoles. I'm really excited to dig into this.
I'd argue if you have absolutely no experience with AD&D then the slow pace of BG1 can be less daunting. Use it as an opportunity to experiment and ask a lot of questions. After a few hours once you have your footing if you find it is too slow then consider jumping over to BG2.
I love how Ed Greenwood (creator of FR) got involved and said something like "it's a world of magic and elves and dragons and all kinds of amazing people and things, so of course there are trans people."
I'd love to hear more impressions about this. I'm having a hard time seeing how the games will play nicely without a mouse/keyboard setup. Controller just seems like it would be an exercise in frustration.
It really demonstrated how there is no argument but bigotry.
I mean, I think mindset matters here. If you go into this and start comparing the control to a M&K setup, then yeah, it's gonna be a bit clunkier and you're gonna have a lot more button presses. It's just a fact of the UI and the move to consoles.
With that said, taken on their own merits, the console controls seem fine. Nothing's gonna compare to M&K, but they're functional and smooth and they get the job done well, in my experience so far (just beginning the game).
EDIT: I do wish there was some control customization though. I would prefer if the functionality on Y and X on the Switch controller was swapped.
FYI: Eurogamer "review" isn't an review, it's an "article", so opinion. Not sure if they're going to fully review it or not.
There's something to be said for pricing your console ports of ~20 year old games at the same price as something like Divinity 2. When deciding between games I already own on PC and mobile, I think I may just pass until the price drops precipitously and instead play some D2 on Switch instead. Really baffling choice on the price to me.
There's something to be said for pricing your console ports of ~20 year old games at the same price as something like Divinity 2. When deciding between games I already own on PC and mobile, I think I may just pass until the price drops precipitously and instead play some D2 on Switch instead. Really baffling choice on the price to me.
The price is interesting. It's definitely asking a lot for 20 year old games, and I think it would be easier to swallow they weren't exclusively bundled. That said, if you find you do like these games, there's hundreds of hours of entertainment here. But, I wouldn't blame anyone for holding off on a price drop.
I had on day one on the original launch days - I don't think I paid £50 combined for both then.
I'd love them on my switch but the price is much too much
I'd love them on my switch but the price is much too much
For the sheer amount of content the price is fine. Especially considering they had to invoke the elder gods to update then AND get onto consoles.
Just booted it up, going thru character creation. There's actually a really impressive amount of options to tweak. This port seems really great.
Yeah, BG2 is pretty much completely superior. If you've never played either you should still start with BG1 though, it's a great game in its own right.
Yea they are all £39.99 in the UK Amazon too whereas the PS Store is £47.99. Not sure why the pricing is so different.
Neither of them are good at introducing mechanics really, though BG1's lack of abilities at the start of the game prevent a certain amount of info overload.. These are games from the "read the manual" era. Unless they've received extra tutorials, that is.
Start at 1. The game can be kind of rough until you get a couple levels under you. Be sure to save scum.
If you're worried play a fighter use sword and board and/or bows. Ranges attacks are amazing and don't forget buffs. Especially haste when you get it.
Speaking of which, the Beamdog guys did an 'Adventurer's Guide' that is pretty much like a game manual. It goes over the stats and abilities and different classes etc. Will help anybody with BG1, BG2 and Icewind Dale to a certain extent.
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EE did add a tutorial, but if I am being honest it isn't amazing. They have updated it a bit for teaching controls using a controller.
It is a little bit fiddly, but easily better than anything I've tried to come up with using the steam controller. There are so many weird little details about the UI that they've been able to hammer out. It isn't perfect, obviously, but it works.
Also for any veterans trying out Icewind Dale EE, they added a bunch of new dialogues for different class/race situations. Some are for new classes and races that weren't in the original Icewind Dale, like talking to townsfolk as a half orc will get a much different reaction (Ten Towns folk aren't very appreciating of Half Orcs) or as a Barbarian going through the Heart of Winter expansion you'll get some unique banter or quest resolutions.
The best list I can find are the ones kinda gathered here. I am not sure how many of these were in the original, I never noticed, but there is dialogue choices for Assassins, Blackguards, Priests of Tempus(kinda notable in Icewind Dale) and all in just a really nice touch for the EE.
The best list I can find are the ones kinda gathered here. I am not sure how many of these were in the original, I never noticed, but there is dialogue choices for Assassins, Blackguards, Priests of Tempus(kinda notable in Icewind Dale) and all in just a really nice touch for the EE.
At the moment is a no buy because I'm too disappointed not only you can't play with a mix of buttons/touchscreen on Switch but that the touchscreen isn't supported at all. With their asking price it's inexcusable.
will stick to the iPad port for now.
will stick to the iPad port for now.
Had some eshop cred so I bought planescape. Really impressed with this port. Console controls are as good as they can be imo. I say this as a Beamdog skeptic: they done real good here.
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Not sure if this was covered in the tutorial and I just blanked out but..
Screenshots of the controls since the picture I've seen floating around is outdated. I assume it is basically the same for the other consoles.
- L+R to do party select.
- ZL/L2 to manage and select groups. You have to long press A/X to select a person to rearrange the order. Like hold it down until they pop up sort of long press without moving the analog stick.
- To pass around inventory items select the item and then switch party members with L/R
Screenshots of the controls since the picture I've seen floating around is outdated. I assume it is basically the same for the other consoles.
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This is kind of a weird question but how is the actual role playing in these games? Like, how heavily are you pigeonholed into being the "savior of the world!" or whatever and how much room is there to behave how you want to behave?
That's kind of one of the more interesting aspects of the games, imo. And why I think they are best played in release order, but that is a costly proposition at the moment so I'm not really pushing people too hard towards it or blame anyone for wanting to go straight into BG2 from BG1.
BG1 is pretty lame in that it really wants you to be The Good Guy, and the more evil paths, or shades between, are basically comic book goofy levels of evil. But then you see Bioware and Black Isle really hone their craft here in how they flesh out and explore moral paths and character progressions and arcs as the games move forward. Folks like Avellone are so well respected for a reason.
I'm sure many have played stuff like Mass Effect, New Vegas, or even KOTOR, so if you want to see where that stuff really developed into its own here is where you'll find it.
Is there a way to hide the combat log? Takes up way too much screen real estate in handheld mode