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Banjo-Kazooie announced for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
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I honestly think that they'd have to go for Kingdom Hearts if they wanted to try and match that hype. It's a shame that I just can't see it happening.
I think, if any MK character, Sub Zero would be the easiest to adapt due to ice powers being very kid friendly.
Hell, after Joker, he could even have an execution final smash based on his Super Nintendo Ice shatter Fatality.
Of course, before there is any MK character in, i'd like KoF and Tekken to get a rep first, but would love for season 2 to be like, the Fighting game season so we can get like, Heihachi, Kyo and Sub Zero.
The difference lies in the sincerity of the attachment. No one is going to argue against the idea that people like Geno because he's got a certain visual appeal and I can't prove this one way or another but I'd bet the majority of people calling for Geno's inclusion have played his game and base their opinion on having experienced his story. What do people like Waluigi for? I can see the argument for liking him because he's terribly out of place and out of pace with the rest of the regular cast of characters. His idiosyncrasies make him stand out. But do people like him for his inherent character traits? Would he have as much attention if he was surrounded by selfish jerks and weirdos in his own games?
And this is without going into the fact that Waluigi's image is perpetually influenced by fan-created exaggerations that may or may not line up with Nintendo's own representation of the character, AKA memes y'all
The problem with Geralt is he's technically a literary figure, not a video game character. He would technically be a Goku in Smash pick (although he looks really cool and wouldn't seem out of place, I wouldn't mind him)
I don't think Sakurai is capable of judging sincerity of fan requests. That's why merit also has to play in.
Waluigi does have earnest fans, because he DOES have quite the personality and has been present for nearly 20 years as a recurring sports game character. He's on the same ballpark as Daisy, really. And Daisy got in.
And I don't even want Waluigi in, because, like I said, he's just recurring filler. But to treat Geno as somehow a superior choice because his fans seem more honest is just laughable.
Sorry family, him or Sub would be hype picks, but I just can't see it. I don't think Mortal Kombat games have sold in Japan in decades. Gore is also part of that franchise's identity, which can't be translated into Smash.
Because nobody other than Nintendo takes 3D platformers seriously anymore. Look at the anger here if anyone suggest Naughty Dog or Insomniac ever return to the franchises that put them on the map, it would be "a waste of talent" (ugh)
I too hate this sentiment, but thank goodness right now Crash is in good hands.
This is such a bullshit argument. This idea that "realistic" games are objectively better than more cartoony ones. I cringe when i hear people say that about naughty dog, like the first jak and daxter game was more enjoyable than uncharted 4
There isn't a more self-congratulatory PR statement than that.
It's almost kind of weird how Banjo got an appearance in Smash before getting a new game of any kind.
It actually wouldn't surprise me if they worked on some of the assets for Spiral Mountain. Banjo's house, for instance, looks like was pulled over as is from Nuts & Bolts. And we already know other studios have helped Bandai Namco with stage development, like Retro in with Jungle Hijinx in Smash 4.
Eh, it happens.
K. Rool, Mega Man, Simon, Pit, etc.
Sometimes, all you need is a good legacy to get into Smash.
Goku is going to break the internet. He's the only character that can top the Cloud Smash announcement.
No, Sakurai said he tried to make Geno playable in both Brawl and Smash 4. The Mii costume was a consolation prize for things not working out behind the scenes.
I think another way to look at that is that giving Mii Gunner a Geno costume was a satisfactory way to bring the character into Smash.
This. I could definitely see a new Banjo being on the table, it does seem like the other two picks so far were somehow being used to promote upcoming games coming out for the company (Joker with 5R and Scramble, DQ with DQ11). Still, I wouldn't expect it. Rare made their stance clear and I don't know I have faith any studio could develop it faithfully (yes that includes current era Rare). I could see a straight up port of the duology and maybe even Nuts n Bolts around the DLC release, but I don't know if a new game is in the cards.
I wonder how much he himself was involved. Sakurai did say that he wants to work with the original creators when bringing their characters into Smash.
Two weeks ago Sakurai's book reiterated that Goku will not be coming to Smash.
People mostly assume it didn't work out back then due to licensing issues, because at this point technical ones shouldn't be? I mean, I know nothing about coding in game development, but Sakurai has shown us he and his team can make a viable moveset out of any single character, and he has the license now, so I wonder what those issues were/are to keep preventing Geno in the game.
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He's just saying that to throw people off his trail. Goku is obviously the last character for the season pass. Believe it.
Once upon a time I would've said that it's clearly SE holding them back and being stingy with what they hand out to Sakurai, but no, here's Hero with 4 different skins and a plethora of callbacks to the entire series.
I guess Sakurai just figured it'd be more exciting to include other guys over Geno at this point?
The Geno Mii costume was removed in Ultimate, so something's going on, even though it doesn't make sense.
It might just be a matter of Square not wanting to get involved at the time, and now that they do there's more important characters in the way like Cloud and Dragon Quest's Heroes.
If by some miracle another Square character gets in I think it'll be Geno.
All third party costumes were removed in Ultimate.
It actually feels very reasonable if you think about it. Microsoft has been trying to revive classic franchises recently, in particular Rare's (Killer Instinct, Battletoads), but it is still risky business since there is no way to really measure if all the noise is real demand for a new game or just, well, the internet being the internet.
What is a great, zero risk way to somewhat measure demand? Put the character in Smash. There are many benefits: it generates good will for an entire new audience (Switch owners) of fans towards Microsoft. It also, allows MS to approximate the demand for the franchise by measuring how well the DLC sells, and at the same time generate more demand by raising awareness of the franchise. All of that while also making money for lending the character's rights.
Every time they showed the respective N64 clip I could hear all the sound effects automatically.
Explain? Because I think the more appropriate statement would be that you don't know shit.
Ah, right, the Sonic ones were re-added with a price tag attached. It implies that Sakurai managed to strong-arm third parties into accepting the whole "Everyone Is Here" thing, but any other content needs to be bought. In the case, it makes sense that Dragon Quest takes priority over Geno.
None of the third-party Mii Costumes were in the base game (Joker even brought back all of the Sega ones except Virtua Fighter). The remaining missing costumes are actually the basis of the Mii Costume Theory.
I think Dragon Quest is a special case because Yuji Horii is the one that's mostly involved with all of that. Dragon Quest itself had also already crossed over with Nintendo in the past.
Yeah, that was the other thought. DQ already having so many hands on it makes it harder for SE to try and lock it down. We may never know, but it'll always be hilarious that we get Cloud and the FF7 content in the state they're in when DQ gets a proper blowout.
We also shouldn't hurry before praising DQ's inclusion. We still have no remixes confirmed; the two songs in the trailer are from the symphonic renditions of the DQXI soundtrack.
I'm actually afraid that all the spirits we might get will be Slime and the heroes in the Final Smash.
Given Sugiyama, no remixes may actually be the best case scenario, but you're right that we should probably wait and see what happens with spirits and the like.
My theory is Double Fine is gonna do it at some point when their schedule clears. It fits there sensibilities as a dev quite well.
I agree it's probably not going to happen. But I'm still gonna hope.
Little Mac is completely unknown in Japan as well. When asked about him, Japanese players knew him as "the guy from Captain Rainbow". Mike Tyson... Boxing as sport in general has always been a US thing. On the other hand, Scorpion is not a first party character.
People ask: there are 2 DLC chars left - how are they gonna top Banjo-Kazooie??? The last 2 have to be even wilder! Well,, this is how you'd do it. At least for Americans.
Gore is a big issue too. Not that it couldn't be toned down, but it'd just be difficult to do that. Scorpion's most famous move is impaling you with a spear and pulling you towards him. That's brutal. Ridley does do something similar, though, as he was meant to be brutal in a similar way. Nintendo could always remove the blood, just like in the SNES days.
Anyway, this post is a mess. I just argued both for and against Scorpion and nothing was accomplished. Either way, I'm still gonna hope bc I dont really care and all my Nintendo faves are in anyway.