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Banjo-Kazooie announced for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
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Licensing characters is literally Disney's business. Like, that's how they make most of their money. Making these sorts of deals is what they do.
I don't understand why here people think it's impossible that Disney would ever license Sora, or that they would be this impossible company to make a deal with. It's baffling.
Conker has never been as popular as Banjo Kazooie. The only Rare project from that era that had a bigger impact was Goldeneye.
I think the Geno issue is that Sora/Hero are bigger gets and would sell better, so despite being heavily requested it's really hard to justify him. I wouldn't be shocked to see him on the base roster of Smash 6, but I don't think he's DLC material.
I think the biggest issue with Disney is future proofing. I don't think Disney would be easy to deal with when it comes to future proofing the rights so it can be rereleased in the future. I'm sure if they tried they'd be able to get Sora in, and maybe even a Donald assist trophy, but Cloud and DQ took priority.
From Nintendo fans, probably Geno or Waluigi
From the industry as a whole, I'd imagine Sora
Yes, absolutely, throw in Riku and Kairi for Trinity Limit if they use that for Final Smash, it wouldn't feel off at all (though personally I think if he got in his final smash would be Ragnarok).
I honestly don't know. I guess Sora, but he feels like a "Never" pick to me.
Me, personally?
It's a travesty that classic Lara Croft still isn't in Smash.
Yeah my favorite part by far is them using the original character design, as opposed to Nuts & Bolts' ugly redesigns (imo).
I don't hate N&B nearly as much as some folks so if they want to include references to that, fine, but I find Banjo's new design considerably worse than say, Modern Sonic versus Classic Sonic.
I think Master Chief is the next big one to get, but they gotta save something for the next Smash Bros. and that Microsoft relationship will probably continue to warm for a few more years.
Jill from Resident Evil is gonna get into this current Smash though.
Is it weird if I don't consider Banjo a third party rep, let alone one from a competing company?
That trailer was not "thanks to our friends at Microsoft" like Cuphead. That was straight up the homecoming of two beloved Nintendo icons. That was Rare's most beloved characters partying it up. That was Banjo proudly being center stage surrounded by other Nintendo characters.
That trailer was not "thanks to our friends at Microsoft" like Cuphead. That was straight up the homecoming of two beloved Nintendo icons. That was Rare's most beloved characters partying it up. That was Banjo proudly being center stage surrounded by other Nintendo characters.
That will probably never happen. Way too many hurdles, and it's square, and not japanese.
Geno, Ridley and K. Rool had been widely requested as far back as Brawl. After the latter two popped up, people got hopeful for the hat trick.
It was more that their inclusion got the Geno fanbase riled up over the idea that he could make it in.
I'd certainly be happy and I'm not quite ready to give up on him, but I do think he's pretty small potatoes in the grand scheme of beloved Smash What-Ifs.
Wouldn't it being Square-Enix kinda help though seeing as how they are a Japanese company that already works with Nintendo a lot.
It wouldn't stun me for the next proper Smash game. I think this one though they've basically given fans almost every character that was really heavily requested. Next time to top that they may have to look at more Western legacy characters to up the ante.
I think Jill from RE and Heiachi from Tekken are the two remaining picks for Smash Ultimate ... so I mean the next Smash game is gonna have a tough go topping this, lol.
Master Chief, Lara Croft wouldn't be bad.
No way. You can't say that now that we have two Square characters and Banjo-Kazooie. And Joker even uses a realistic handgun. Every hurdle now has a precedence of not being an issue.
Well, here's who is left to add from my estimation:
Crash Bandicoot
Master Chief
Lara Croft
Sepiroth
Spyro
Geno
Dante
Rayman
Joanna Dark
Monster Hunter
I'm sure some people want Regina, Goku, or Jak and Daxter, but those are basically impossible so I'm not counting anything like that. Of course, I'm sure there are a lot of side-characters from Nintendo properties that people want, but that seems unlikely for DLC. I love Kirby as much as the next guy, but Bandana Waddle Dee ain't happenin'.
Crash Bandicoot
Master Chief
Lara Croft
Sepiroth
Spyro
Geno
Dante
Rayman
Joanna Dark
Monster Hunter
I'm sure some people want Regina, Goku, or Jak and Daxter, but those are basically impossible so I'm not counting anything like that. Of course, I'm sure there are a lot of side-characters from Nintendo properties that people want, but that seems unlikely for DLC. I love Kirby as much as the next guy, but Bandana Waddle Dee ain't happenin'.
There was definitely a, "they've always belonged to us" vibe in that trailer.
It's Smash so they could've went a million different ways with the characters they used. But using the Rare properties (or the properties they're known for working on back in the day) just felt right and was absolutely fitting. Fun play off of the K. Rool trailer and the fact that people always kind of saw Duck Hunt as a diet Banjo-Kazooie since their inclusion.
That's not true at all. People have been wanting him in a Smash game since at least the time before Brawl came out.
Whatever comes next for Banjo I think it'll be on Nintendo consoles. That's where his audience is.
Lara really isn't that wanted though honestly. She isn't some long time wanted one and doesn't get brought up a ton. So a combination of being really hard to get in and not even that wanted.
I hope so, but I'm certain whatever they release will be available on Xbox as well (and probably Windows too).
If anything, Square-Enix hurts his chances.
Speaking of "lol Square" I'm betting we're only getting those two DQ songs that played on the Hero trailer. Notice the lack of new DQ music updates despite Spiral Mountain being on the Smash Bros website.
Square, in all of its foolishness, is just refusing to play ball.
They probably meant like that his popularity kind of went away for awhile. Sakurai mentioning him brought it back up a little, but no one was really talking about him for ultimate until K.rool.
This is a pretty good list of candidates, though I would add Tracer, Sora, and Steve/Alex (and, if we're talking a Smash sequel, Shovel Knight and Bomberman to replace their assist trophies).
When I was a kid playing BK I was absolutely obsessed with the Jinjos/Jinonator. Favorite character in the game lol. I loved how they were the yoshis of BK. Can't believe they brought the Jinjonator back! Makes sense since it's like the most powerful thing in BK-verse.
DK64 and DKR both outsold Banjo Kazooie and Perfect Dark sold about the same as Banjo.
But if you're talking about what games made the most impact in terms of being the most iconic Rare games, then I guess you'd be right more or less.
There's no way what comes next for Banjo won't be on Xbox consoles as well.
You know when you think about it, Jinjos were really the eight red coin missions from Mario 64 of BK.
Collect a certain amount of something to unlock one of the world's main collectibles.
Nintendo has been collaborating with Disney as recently as Wreck-It Ralph.
I somehow pushed those two games of my mind because I associate them closer to Nintendo, but you're right.
I wonder now, how did StarFox Adventures do? Could that have become a series if Rare had stayed?
I guess I meant Yoshis in the context of being a cute, multi-colored species of that world.
Me too. It would be a pretty neat surprise if he somehow made it, but I doubt he'll ever be paid DLC.
As far as I remember, Star Fox Adventures didn't actually do too bad. I think it reached at least a million in sales.
Given the story behind SFA's development and the general negative reception the game has, I'm not sure if it would've turned into a series honestly.
Take a look at Diddy Kong Racing for instance. A game that is beloved and sold millions and millions of copies, but has never gotten an actual sequel besides that weird DS remake. Though if Rare had stayed, maybe Donkey Kong Racing would've actually come out on the GameCube......
Man, I would LOVE a remaster in this art-style.
Sakurai and the team has done a perfect job encapsulating the look of Banjo-Kazooie.
Sakurai and the team has done a perfect job encapsulating the look of Banjo-Kazooie.
So? That was before Nintendo got in bed with Universal. Not that it means Disney won't work with Nintendo but I don't see what Wreck-It Ralph has to do with anything.
Adventures was actually the last million seller the Star Fox IP has had.
1.82 million according to Celine's thread
For characters/franchises that make sense: Rayman, Waluigi, Steve from Minecraft, Isaac from Golden Sun, someone from Advance Wars,
Pipedreams: Geno, someone from Wario Ware, Captain Rainbow, Custom Robo character, Pilotwings/Wave Race/Excitbike, Bomberman
Non-nonsensical: Sora (seriously this is way more connected to Sony), Master Chief, Resident Evil representation
