Yeah I was at the beach there and women were topless so I just had assumed it would be the same at pools but I was wrong.
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Barcelona Confirms Women Can Go Topless in City Pools
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Women are legally permitted to be topless in my city anywhere they choose, or at least anywhere men can go topless, including at the beaches, public pools, parks, or while walking down the street, day or night... This has been the law here for years; some women take advantage of it at the beach or pool, but I've only seen a handful of women actually go topless in the street, and one of them was walking a Rottweiler LOL... and, of course, this being Canada, it's a pretty impractical law 9 months of the year...
Welcome to Europe.
Wait you're European and you post that?
Creepy men leer at women regardless of what they're wearing honestly. It's not like a bikini top would change much.
Ah yes that explains everything.
Yeah, when I was in Spain I saw it pretty frequently at hotel pools. Pretty jarring as an American, lol.
I only posted the pic because it was literally the first thing that I thought of when I read the title.
I didn't really consider the implication. My bad. Dumb memes...
This seems pretty nice for horny straight guys until you realize that the general population isn't made of supermodels... though I guess your mileage depends on your tolerance for flapjacks.
Like, the amount of saggy old man ass and sacks I've seen in Japanese hot springs is staggering. Nothing wrong with being old or out of shape but it's not going to be some kind of sexy paradise.
Like, the amount of saggy old man ass and sacks I've seen in Japanese hot springs is staggering. Nothing wrong with being old or out of shape but it's not going to be some kind of sexy paradise.
Well yeah, but people's bodies want what they want. For, say, an American that's used to only seeing boobs in a sexual sense they're gonna be titillated either way. It's ok to let people make jokes about being horny now and then.
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Disgusting?
I spent my childhood summer holidays on nude beaches(mostly Corsica and Croatia), seeing breasts, and vaginas, and penises, ranging from toddlers to 90+ year olds. Its so weird how scared people are of seeing human bodies.
If seeing some sagging breasts or a wrinkly dick hurts you, the damage was already there, you just didn't notice it.
I get being uncomfortable while being nude (it's why I stopped going when I was 13, though now I love saunas and wouldn't have a problem returning to nude beaches), but seeing nude people in a beach setting shouldn't scar anyone.
Odd
I always thought thats normal anyways here in most of europe.
I grew up with free'd boobs basicly everwhere. I can't remember a single time I saw those bikini-top sun-marks on my mom, sis or cousines breasts because they never wore tops. Their tanning was seamless above the waistline.
It really shouldnt be big of a deal anyway.
I mean, men walk around topless all the time and the only difference is (more or less) fat.
Edit: i might add that i didnt stare at my relatives upperside intenionally
I always thought thats normal anyways here in most of europe.
I grew up with free'd boobs basicly everwhere. I can't remember a single time I saw those bikini-top sun-marks on my mom, sis or cousines breasts because they never wore tops. Their tanning was seamless above the waistline.
It really shouldnt be big of a deal anyway.
I mean, men walk around topless all the time and the only difference is (more or less) fat.
Edit: i might add that i didnt stare at my relatives upperside intenionally
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heh no one should care about what horny guys wants to see because this isn't about them but about women deciding what they want to do.
oh I didn't know this was an issue in barcelona. my gf's gone topless in pools here in madrid, it's no big deal at all
That's an issue you've got to work on, mate.
Again: issues.
Having grown up in France with topless Women in tv ads during prime time back in the 80s (thanks Obao and Mobalpa!), the topless beaches were a thing I experienced since childhood.
It normalizes quickly (even if at teenagehood you are more tempted to stare, but you know better), and whether a man or woman want to enjoy sunbathing/ showing their bods, more power to them.
Just. Don't. Stare.
It normalizes quickly (even if at teenagehood you are more tempted to stare, but you know better), and whether a man or woman want to enjoy sunbathing/ showing their bods, more power to them.
Just. Don't. Stare.
Haven't you ever looked at someone, who was maybe super attractive or super odd or had something in their teeth-- and you try to look at them normally but then realise you have no idea how to look at someone normally? No? Just me?
There is more than one way to remove a double standard. In this case we could ask men to cover their torsos.
We shouldn't oversimplify things. These subjects need more thought than a few words.
A counter argument to the view being quoted is that this could actually increase objectification, degrade self esteem and make people desensitized to what they should find attractive.
If something that is naturally seen as very sexually attractive by most men is made to be normalized then it desensitizes them to it. Which leads to their standards increasing and even leading to them feeling unsatisfied.
This could also put pressure on women to feel more insecure about their appearance. Women tend to get much more affected when comparing their physical appearance to other women than men do. You can see how social media (e.g. Instagram) has impacted young women's mental health. I am not saying it doesn't happen to men too.
Lastly this could actually lead to more objectification. It's easy for people to say it would reduce objectification, but will it really? There are going to be a huge number of men who like this just for the sake of objectification.
Women don't need to be topless to be objectified.
Women do need to be topless to have equality
I don't understand what you mean at all. There's nothing out there people *should* find attractive, men becoming desensitized to breasts does... nothing.
As for the second point, why the fuck does it matter whether a man is sexually satisfied by going to the pool or not? If they're that incapacitatingly horny they can just stay home
It is kind of weird reconciling our own sexual nature and innate desires with condemnation from other posters for looking at people who by their choice show their partially non-clad bodies in public.
I am not advocating for staring or ogling and there are clear and defined outlines on consent. But it can sometime come off pious BS here from some people at times. Most of us are not asexual beings.
I am not advocating for staring or ogling and there are clear and defined outlines on consent. But it can sometime come off pious BS here from some people at times. Most of us are not asexual beings.
I know I'm reaaally nitpicking here, and I know you didn't mean it that way, but they obviously don't need to "be" topless, they just need the ability.
I'm for nudity acceptance on beaches. Anyone who wants to be nude should be allowed to be nude. As long as there's no sexual activity or boners, I think nobody should care.
People who have a problem with it can just not look. Where's the issue?
I saw 9 months and I thought you were talking about pregnancy at first
Cool, women should be free to choose, but does anyone actually still go topless? Just an incidental 50 year old. In Ibiza maybe.
I understand what you mean but I kind of disagree on your sentiment.
Some people (straight guys) *are* going to enjoy seeing more topless women around. As long as they aren't actually disturbing anybody, nobody really cares, I think.
The real issue at play here I think is that women's breasts are generally/often seen as things men (like to) stare at (sexually) first and actual body parts belonging to actual people second, and my understanding of the topic is that since the latter is obviously far more important women themselves should have control on whether they cover them up or not
It's not to say anyone who feels sexual attraction to topless women is sexist or a pervert or anything of the sort, the argument is simply that people's bodies are not inherently sexual and that other people's sexual ways of looking at you has no good reason to constrain what you have the right to wear or not wear
It's actually legal for women in NYC to be topless anywhere.
Not sure why you quoted my post.
But you're making some mighty leaps in logic here.
Men becoming desensitized to female nudity won't increase sexual objectification at all... like how does that even work?!?!
It's anecdotal, but I'm married and I can remember when I wasn't and the sight of a naked woman would send a surge of hot lustful blood into my brain and nether regions. Now I'm married and am used to seeing my wife naked on the regular, it just doesn't have the same impact at all.
That's like what the definition of "desensitization" is... you become less sensitized to something. So quite how you think men can become more titillated and sensitive to something by becoming desensitised to it is really quite spectacularly baffling.
Is it legal or "legal"? It seems like it'd get you (at least) hassled by cops, security,...
Like another person said, exposure to them on regular basis will wear off the novelty and (personal take) may bring about change in attitude pertaining to perception because it takes away the power to imagine what is underneath. As societal creatures, I have often wondered whether our sexual urges are brought on by certain body parts innate or programmed by aspects of said body being obscured from plain sight (the forbidden fruit always taste's sweeter/taboo) or a mix of both.
I think you can never know what goes on in the mind of another person when they see your visage clad or otherwise (for now) and what turns them on or off. But that is why we keep things to ourselves and there is a filter between our mind and mouth. If people have the decency to not stare or do worse to make someone uncomfortable, then, pragmatically speaking it does not matter. Hiding a boner though.... wear a tight speedo.
Personal anecdote of a (mostly) straight guy: I go to the gym quite often and some folks, men and especially beautiful fit women in those yoga pants are sometimes hard not to glance at despite personal best efforts. Sometimes it is biological and other it is almost like a reverence (when actual body builders show up) I just make sure not to ogle or stare are them to come off as creep and focus on my reps. Point is, it has never occurred to me to see them as anything less complicated of organic machinery than myself. I understand that not everyone is like this and thus as said before, regardless of the intent, if the action remains courteous, who really gives a shit.
One actively engages in acts to inspire sexual arousal as a matter of purpose. There is a reason why generally functional people who have been part of the current zeitgeist in western cultures do not pop a full blown boner when seeing nudity as part of an artwork. Nudity alone is not enough (again, it differs from person to person especially where and how they were brought up).
I don't think it's fair to say it's being overly pious when almost the entire first page is a varient of "Yeah Boi! Can't wait to fly over and see them tiddies !"
By that logic we would need to veil ugly faces too. Not a good idea.
There are topless women in every beach in Spain, every day. I don't know what portion, but women go topless as they choose.
Undoubtedly it is crass humour. It is hard to believe anyone would be stupid enough to pull off that anime shit where the guy sprays blood from his nose powerfully enough to propel him past troposphere.
.. Then again..... this is Era where the tag, "Why can't you fuckers be normal" exists for a reason.
A lot, actually, probably been to Spain about seven times in the last six years too.
It's not what it used to be, not in a looooong shot.
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