Damn what a finale. We Dexter now
NoHo Hank is the only likeable character here
Fuck you Barry lol
NoHo Hank is the only likeable character here
Fuck you Barry lol
Laughed so hard when they were rolling up on that airstrip while blasting music in the suv.
Yep, the show is genius. So good.This show is nothing short of brilliant. It could end here and I'd be satisfied.
Do we know if the season ending was real, or just another one of Barry's fantasies? It seemed like there was a bit of a time jump.
I guess it's just the time jump that threw me off. Suddenly he's in a relationship, and at a cabin, and there was nothing telling us how much time had passed.It was definitely real.
He wouldn't fantasize about killing a cop.
They talk about this in the behind the scenes video, it was purposely shot to make you think it might not be real early on until it keeps goings and it slowly falls apart.I guess it's just the time jump that threw me off. Suddenly he's in a relationship, and at a cabin, and there was nothing telling us how much time had passed.
Ah, makes sense.They talk about this in the behind the scenes video, it was purposely shot to make you think it might not be real early on until it keeps goings and it slowly falls apart.
When you were crafting the season, what were your early discussions about how you wanted it to end? Did it change significantly once you guys started writing?
BILL HADER: Yeah, yeah we had a very different ending in mind that was too far down the road. It was something that would've changed things a little too drastically, so what we tend to do—and we're doing it now, because we're writing Season 2 right now—I tend to walk in with, "Here's a whole season." I tend to work up, I work vertically. I go, "Here's eight episodes," and then Alec goes horizontally through all eight and goes, "Well that doesn't make sense. Why would he do that? You could do this," and Liz Sarnoff will say, "Instead of this we could do that." And by the way, what I will initially come up with and then what the show ends up being, you can see remnants in there but it's not the season really. I tend to work better when I'm working off of something, so it's good to write your own version of that, sleep on it, and then look at it again and go, "Why are we wasting five episodes for this to happen? That should happen in Episode 2." We just did that in Season 2 where I had something that was gonna happen in Episode 4 and Alec was like, "That should be the end of Episode 1," and you're like, "Oh you're right," (laughs).
The ending actually came to us—we wrote scripts for episodes 1 through 4 and had those, and then you could really feel it where we went, "Okay we've got this Shakespeare festival, we're setting up these Marines, we have Moss and Cousineau and Barry and Sally and what she wants," and it was just going, "Here's what we know," because we'd written the drafts for 1 through 4, and that tells you a lot. You can't just outline it, you've gotta actually get in and write the drafts because then you start to go, "Oh that doesn't work. That's a conceptual idea. That doesn't really work as you write it." And you get the characters' voices, you understand who they are—you understand that with Fuches, the guy we've written isn't that guy anymore. He's more of a con man. Fuches initially was like evil, and we reworked the character and made him more of a con man.
So basically, as we moved toward the end, initially Barry bought a house. In the initial version that I had written Barry had bought this "fuck off" house, and Fuches was furious, like, "It's not good for you being an anonymous hitman to own a big house in Silver Lake." The party at Natalie's, initially that was a party at Barry's house. That was like a thing that Barry was hosting a party and then his Marine friends showed up to that party, and at that party Moss came with Cousineau, and it was this big reveal of, "Oh Jesus, Cousineau came to the party with Moss." Then at the end of Episode 8, they're all drinking at Barry's house and Moss goes to the bathroom or something and she finds some sort of clue. It was all just feeling a bit too pat, it just wasn't working.
I remember Alec said, "What if you just cut into the future and they're out in the woods?" and I went, "Oh God, yeah! This thing should feel like one of his daydreams!" and everybody went, "Yeah!" So you don't know if it's real or not (laughs). Our initial thought was, "What if you did a thing that started and you went, 'Oh this is a daydream.' This is what he wanted. This is what he's thought about all season, so what if you lean into that and he's in a hammock with Sally, they're reading their lines for The Front Page, Moss doesn't suspect him anymore and they're all together and it's this beautiful thing.'" Make it feel almost too idyllic.
That's what it felt like at the beginning. Because the midway point of the episode is very much where a more traditional show would end. The two of them in the bar and there's a slow pull back. But then you hear the wood sounds and you're like, "Wait what?"
HADER: Yeah I like that. I like that you go, "What is happening?" and then you go, "Wait, is this real?" (laughs). We wanted that, and then just writing those scenes, Cousineau does that Harry Belefonte thing, everything's perfect, Barry is very much now a part of that society, and now they're all eating dinner, and then we sat there for like two days. "Okay they're eating dinner… Uh…" and I go, "What is it?" and we went, "Well his loose ends are tied off." We just couldn't figure it out. And I said, "Oh my God, it's already there. It's in the pilot. Barry told him his fucking story in the pilot!" and that was one of those moments where we just start high-fiving each other. Then Moss would figure it out. Initially what happens between Moss and Barry was much more brutal, but then it was more interesting to have this scene between them and then kind of leave it open-ended so you don't know what the hell happened.
That cut was incredible. I literally gasped. The cut to the window and you only see the light from the gun shots.
HADER: Yeah that's all Alec Berg, man. He was like, "You know what would be better? You just cut to the window and you hear the flashes," and I'm operating that. I was like, "Can I operate the flashes?" You had a different flash for her gun and my gun, so it was this thing where Alec was like, "Faster!" it was funny. They were like, "Maybe it wasn't the best idea to have Bill do this," (laughs). That was on a stage, and I was trying to work that.
The last half of this season was just glorious. Really amazing show and hader absolutely crushed it. Can't wait for season 2.
Barry has to die now, right? He's unsalvageable at this point, after killing multiple innocent civilians.
They talk about this in the behind the scenes video, it was purposely shot to make you think it might not be real early on until it keeps goings and it slowly falls apart.
Just finished the season. Really good stuff.
Also: wtf everyone is spoiling stuff in here without spoiler tags
Yes, they really did. Also, you're right the show is fantastic!They struck gold with him, for sure. But then, the whole show is gold, so...
this was the funniest thing of the entire season holy shit lmfaooo