I'm not saying it really makes sense, just TV shows have a tendency to fuck with the audience when they're not showing the dead body. Also on the Behind the Episode last week the producer said "supposedly killed Janice." Hopefully he's just trolling.
Yea I get that, but like, there's no real reason for Barry to keep her alive, neither was there anything hinting at it.
Yeah, I get that too. I guess I'm just cynical of even great shows like this to commit to these sorts of choices (even though we've seen Barry do some heinous shit), and the fact they didn't fully show the corpse in the last episode keeps me from just fully letting it go.Yea I get that, but like, there's no real reason for Barry to keep her alive, neither was there anything hinting at it.
I can't even say it'd be about his conscience, as he's clearly shown that when it comes down to it, he will murder the fuck outta someone to keep himself from going to jail
They did. I'll admit, I held the faintest possibility of her being alive, like 1% left, which then got eradicated when we see Barry very clearly shoot Janice several times.
I felt that that was more a decision where only Gene, the one who cares about her, gets to look at her face. Also, if she's still alive, she should react a little. Imagine her just having fallen asleep or something, that'd be silly.Yeah, I get that too. I guess I'm just cynical of even great shows like this to commit to these sorts of choices (even though we've seen Barry do some heinous shit), and the fact they didn't fully show the corpse in the last episode keeps me from just fully letting it go.
Basically until I see her face I ain't satisfied.
I dunno... I think they're going to do it.. And that pisses me off. I love Gene and Barry's relationship so I'm legit a nervous wreck until Sunday. I really really hope they don't go through with it but Fuches doesn't give a fuck anymore and there was no sign of Barry. :(
Gene doesn't know that Barry is involved yet... Right? Fuches called police pretending to be Gene saying he killed his wife.
If Barry shows up to save him he will 100% know Barry is involved. So thats the problem. Barry can show up and save him, but hes going to have to kill him as well to cover up that he had anything to do with it. Hes fucked either way
More via the link.I can imagine. This is a really great Sally episode and I wanted to talk about when she delivers her monologue outside Barry’s place. She’s terrific in that scene and she has a lot to juggle and a lot of things to say and a lot of things that you could imagine Barry reacting to in different ways. But I wanted to talk about the decision to keep the camera only on Sally for the entirety of that monologue. How did that came about?
HADER: Well, that came about where Alec and I were saying, well, gosh, Sally’s feeling all these different things and we need a scene with her and Barry and we kept throwing out what it could be. I remember we were on the phone with Liz Sarnoff going like what would that theme be? We all were just kind of listing how Sally was feeling. Then Sarah Goldberg also had her thoughts on how Sally was feeling and where she was at. The list was really long and we were like, “How do we hit all these in a thing?” and then I said, “Well, you know, what I’m sure Sarah can do is I’m sure Sarah could do a three-minute monologue without breathing.” Because Sarah is a theater trained actress and she can memorize large amounts of dialogue and then she can say it incredibly fast. So it was a bit like showing off our cast member where it was like, “I bet you can do this and you can do this in one shot.” So there’s no trick. It really is just shot on her and do it just that way. And Alec was like, “Yeah.” Then we take it to Sarah. I said, “Hey, do you want to do a two-page monologue that has like no commas in it, no punctuation and we’re never going to cut? It’s just going to be on you?” And she was like, “Oh, my God, I love that. Are you joking? It’s my dream.”
She did four takes of it. All four of them were perfect. The crew would applaud after each one. But it was just to show where she is at and that she’s feeling all these things, and she’s someone unlike Barry that has to share it all at once. I think it’s a sign of growth for her that she could say “I’m really fucking jealous of you right now. Even though Swim Instructors is absolute shit, I am so jealous.” And I feel like that’s a thing that so many struggling actors go through, when you’re just like I can’t believe they got that thing, I’m so jealous even though I think it’s a dumb thing, that thing is going to be huge.
Earlier in the series you can imagine her doing kind of the passive aggressive kind of smile, and “Oh I’m so happy for you,” without saying what she’s really feeling.
HADER: Exactly. And this is her going, “No, I love you and I’m caring about you and I’m trying to be a better person here, but I’ve got to be real with you. If you get this, I will be happy for you but I will also kind of hate you. I’m being honest.” Like this whole season is about “I’m trying to be honest.” So that’s her honesty monologue and so the combination of her going through a lot and us wanting to express it and get it into a scene and then having an actor who could handle that. Not only handle it but specializes in it. Where you go “Oh, give Sarah Goldberg three pages and she’ll rattle it off. No problem.”
HADER: So, yeah, that’s where that came from and that’s one of my favorite moments of the season. I love when she kind of talks to herself. It just gives you such insight into that character. And Paula Huidobro, the DP, was laughing because she said, “The way you look at her at the end of the scene I feel like so many men look at me that way.” (laughs)
I saw that look and I was like I completely get that. I get that look.
HADER: Yeah. Yeah. It was such a very male/female thing on set where a lot of women were like I have so felt like her and the guys were like, no, I’ve given that look to my girlfriend or wife before. (laughs)
“What is the correct response here?”
HADER: “How do I respond to that?”
Yeah, they already pulled that card once this season with Sally in the hotel room with her ex so if he's there he'll have to reckon with it. Would feel kind of cheap for Barry to be there but not be seen just like in that episode.
Ehh remember he was on the phone with him just moments before. Fuches that is I mean. Gene told Barry himself he was at the cabin. Barry could always say he had a bad feeling with the way guy on the phone sounded, or that it sounded like a guy who became enemies with him in the war and decided to head over and make sure Gene was okay, or that he wanted to be there to help Gene look because of all Gene had done for him, etc. There are a billion bullshit reasons he could have made up as Gene already specifically told Barry himself where he was. They're not all believable, no but that could be the thread moving forward... That Gene *suspects* Barry knows more than he's letting on, etc.
That doesnt work because they're in the woods in the middle of nowhere. The only way barry could get there would be if he knew where the car and janice were. Which gene would realize.Ehh remember he was on the phone with him just moments before. Fuches that is I mean. Gene told Barry himself he was at the cabin. Barry could always say he had a bad feeling with the way guy on the phone sounded, or that it sounded like a guy who became enemies with him in the war and decided to head over and make sure Gene was okay, or that he wanted to be there to help Gene look because of all Gene had done for him, etc. There are a billion bullshit reasons he could have made up as Gene already specifically told Barry himself where he was. They're not all believable, no but that could be the thread moving forward... That Gene *suspects* Barry knows more than he's letting on, etc.
But no, in actuality I think Gene is fucked :(.
I think there are three outs:
Yeah I remember that, but I thought that was just due to Fuches absolute incompetence. Otherwise, how would Fuches tell Gene while in the cabin "let's take a walk" and then 5 minutes later whoop de do they're at the car?
A lot more time passed than that. Barry driving out of LA alone would have taken hours due to how bad traffic is, and then he would have to get to the cabin, and the woods, and this was shown to be happening as Fuches was about to kill him.
I guess I just find it hard to believe Gene would be so dumb as to follow a complete stranger miles into woodlands on foot without food or water lol. That may now be my most glaring issue with this show.
This seems like a likely outcome. Gene being knocked out and not seeing Barry makes sense. I just really don't know how he's going to explain the phone call to the cops.