Battle Rap Era |OT| Trying to snapback, to a new Era, that you not fitted for

plexxrock

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that's just off-head, all of them easily belong on any list of the best battles the last 15 years. dumbfounded vs tantrum cemented the written era, how the fuck is that not on the list?

the 2on2 tournament from grizzle2 should probably also be on the list, due to the fact it's the highest quality (in terms of performances) we've seen since jumpoff jumped off a fucking roof and sabotaged their own business with the stolen tapes. (kotd's 2on2 tournament was fucking terrible aside from greg and pete and fresco and real deal)
 
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plexxrock

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Feb 19, 2019
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'' IN THE KITCHEN, ONCE MORE, YOU IN THE CORNER? WHAT FOR? CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON, I'VE WON WARS, CUZ AWWW LAAAHD MY STYLE GOT A LIL BIT OF EVERYTHING HA HAAA LIKE A JUNK DRAWER''

that's the type of pen you rating. ward is terrible. walked on water/hops on waves was the perfect summaration of ward's approach to everything.
 

Ninja_Hawk

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Oct 27, 2017
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So Cal/Mook vs. Brizz and Top just isn't going down AT ALL!? How have they not just done the battle by now?
 
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enzo_gt

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the ''list'' is 98% you blowing smack, as for not liking rapbattles? based on everything you've posted i'm gonna guess i'm probably 10 plus years your elder.

which puts your entry point in the written era, and mine all the way back to rap olympics and scribble jam.

not a single botb battle on that list? no saurus, no fresco, no soul, no bender or 24/7? no ness lee? (i can put 10-15 other names here aswell)

your example of a onesided shit kicking pales in comparasin to something like say caustic vs jefferson price or soul khan vs deacon frost or say sonny bamboo vs villun.
Ima just be real dude, you're peacocking and gatekeeping for no reason here, especially when you could be positively contribute to discussion and explaining why those battles are good entry points instead of just telling everyone how much better your list would be and the battles/styles that you think are better.

You come out the gate, assuming you're older than everyone else here and that no one here ever liked rap olympics/scribble jam because you misread that the OP focuses on modern battle rap. Ain't anything wrong with battles that came before, but I didn't want to mislead people into putting one thing in OP and modern rap battles being another way, hence the lack of GrindTime-era stuff there too. Soul Khan vs. Deacon Frost was on URL too, and I absolutely LOVE that performance from Soul Khan but you're tripping if you think the entry point to battle rap is as one-sided of a battle as that; Lux vs. Miles is an exception because it's basically something everyone has to watch and Miles' rounds are short.

There's also UK 2-on-2s, several KOTD battles on there, but that list was made years ago. URL was dominant then and is even more dominant now, it is what it is. I even admitted when I made the list that it was biased towards SMACK because I very much am, but there weren't many suggestions for good entry points then either so I just went with what there was to go with.

FWIW I think Brizz vs. Young X is one of the best entry points there is. The Saurus vs. Fresco is a good one too, so next time I get around to editing OP, I will throw that in.
 

Ninja_Hawk

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Ima just be real dude, you're peacocking and gatekeeping for no reason here, especially when you could be positively contribute to discussion and explaining why those battles are good entry points instead of just telling everyone how much better your list would be and the battles/styles that you think are better.

You come out the gate, assuming you're older than everyone else here and that no one here ever liked rap olympics/scribble jam because you misread that the OP focuses on modern battle rap. Ain't anything wrong with battles that came before, but I didn't want to mislead people into putting one thing in OP and modern rap battles being another way, hence the lack of GrindTime-era stuff there too. Soul Khan vs. Deacon Frost was on URL too, and I absolutely LOVE that performance from Soul Khan but you're tripping if you think the entry point to battle rap is as one-sided of a battle as that; Lux vs. Miles is an exception because it's basically something everyone has to watch and Miles' rounds are short.

There's also UK 2-on-2s, several KOTD battles on there, but that list was made years ago. URL was dominant then and is even more dominant now, it is what it is. I even admitted when I made the list that it was biased towards SMACK because I very much am, but there weren't many suggestions for good entry points then either so I just went with what there was to go with.

FWIW I think Brizz vs. Young X is one of the best entry points there is. The Saurus vs. Fresco is a good one too, so next time I get around to editing OP, I will throw that in.
100. For someone claiming to be so much older you sure entered the thread in the most petulant way possible, not a good way to get people to take you seriously. Posting battles we've seen, acting like you're teaching us something.
 

uhnomoli

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Oct 29, 2017
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Fresco vs. Thesaurus would probably be the battle I'd show someone if I could only pick one. Pat vs Danny, Iron vs Rum, a Bill Collector battle (maybe Qleen?) would be some others. Should probably link to the Watch playlist on RYD too.
 

Ninja_Hawk

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Oct 27, 2017
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Fresco vs. Thesaurus would probably be the battle I'd show someone if I could only pick one. Pat vs Danny, Iron vs Rum, a Bill Collector battle (maybe Qleen?) would be some others. Should probably link to the Watch playlist on RYD too.
This is a good idea. They do some of the best breakdowns of battles you can find.
 

plexxrock

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Feb 19, 2019
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Ima just be real dude
i'm not peacocking or gatekeeping anything, i'm questioning why in a thread about battlerap as a whole has a list that reads like a a&b guide to smack battles? when one could argue that if it wasn't for something like dumbfounded vs tantrum you wouldn't have had the ''modern era'' of rapbattles period.

smack built his house on the foundation laid by the west, by being a much better business man than say someone like lush one and seeing the potential of breaking through to a whole new demographic.

as for the age thing, that's not an assumption really, i'd put money on it. based on phrasing and tone in this thread alone.

i'd also argue that ryd belongs in the op, since it's the biggest innovation this niche culture has seen in recent years, and for what avo is trying to create with the platform he is building.
 

uhnomoli

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Oct 29, 2017
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You're being stupid aggro for no reason. Instead of suggesting some battles get added to the OP, you're acting as if you did and people shit on it. The majority of OG stuff doesn't hold up without some factor of nostalgia and makes for a terrible intro. As much as you're trying to get on the thread for being a SMACK advert, you equally sound like a GT/KotD stan.
 

K.Jack

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Oct 27, 2017
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yeah, makes sense. because lux vs miles for instance has aged brilliantly right? j.c being one of the most influential battlerappers ever? i almost pissed myself reading that statement.

this ougtha be good, please do tell.
You're such a haughty asshole I'm not sure why you feel you deserve any discourse at all. Your intro to the thread was a double post of straight shitting on people's opinions, not starting a discussion.

You aren't entitled to have any one gives a fuck what you think about what they think about battle rap. If you are the eldar you claim do be, I fear for the youth coming up under you. Your modus operandi is disgusting.

And if you wanna get on some rap shit we can take it there too. I'll find my mic.
 

plexxrock

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Feb 19, 2019
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questioning blatant ignorance you mean? these 13 pages read like the ''main stage'' part of otbva, which funny enough was also populated by a bunch of 20 somethings who got off to smack battles.

suburbia youth and gun lines, probably the biggest cliche ever.

''get on some rap shit'' ?

nigel plz, behave yourself son.
 

K.Jack

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questioning blatant ignorance you mean? these 13 pages read like ''main stage'' part of otbva, which funny enough was also populated by a bunch of 20 somethings who got off to smack battles.

suburbia youth and gun lines, probably the biggest cliche ever.

''get on some rap shit'' ?

nigel plz, behave yourself son.
You have social issues, there is no point in talking to you. You don't know how t start r mantain a cnversation.

Let me help. How to start a conversation on a forum:

Hey enzo_gt I disagree with your choices for the "where do I start?" section of the OP. May I suggest a few additions? *provide examples, reasoning, and feedback* You know, like a mature adult.

But nah you come in with "the op suggestions of ''where to start'' are so fucking awful i find it hard to believe they are even sincere" even though the person who made the thing had posted two dang posts above, yet you couldn't even nut up and address him directly like a man.

I'm way beyond my 20s or even 30s so we aren't going back and forth on any wiser god bullshit either. There's no discussion to be had because of your poor perspective on things, so we're done.

As a wise man once said: You want it one way, but it's the other way.
 

plexxrock

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Feb 19, 2019
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nut up and address him directly like a man.
would this be the part of the saga where you venture off to ''find your mic'' ? you attempting to ''high road'' it when you led off with ''get on some rap shit'' and ''find my mic'' ? and for your finale you quote a fictional character from the wire?

to call you a cornball would be a massive understatement.
 
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SageShinigami

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I know this place doesn't get a ton of attention, but seriously guys. Pointing out how low quality his posts are isn't going to suddenly make them not low quality.
 

crimzonflame

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Oct 25, 2017
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So been watching battle rap since early 2000's with Scribble Jam vids and Smack DVDs. What really got me into it was the WRCs and Nocando. Then was super excited when Grindtime started along with KotD. Hollow easily became my favourite with Nocan being 2nd after his battle with Philly Swain and I used watch his battles all the time. I would skip his opponents verses and just watch his verses even in battles he lost. I sorta lost interest in battle rap around 2012-13 when battles were getting super long and I wasn't getting a lot of the references anymore. I'm originally from a 'rougher' area Toronto so I thought it was lame to see all these Canadian kids with gun bars. I eventually just tuned in to watch Hollow battles once a year. I think the last one I saw was him vs Lux.

Just wanted to say that watching the Watch Ruin commentary on classic and new battles is getting me back into battle rap.

My fondest memories were the hay day of the rapmusic.com forums which OTBVA is a spinoff of. It was full of trolls but a lot of the battle rappers themselves would post in the forums. They had accounts there since the scribble jam days. Then the newer GT and KotD rappers made accounts as well. The best part was the ability to anonymously leave tags in each topic and boy did people get creative with them. They would be downright hilarious.
 

crimzonflame

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Oh and BotB5 is still the greatest event of all time. Surprisingly none of those battles are recommended in the OP
 

Ninja_Hawk

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Oct 27, 2017
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Massacre 5 this weekend yall! Predictions?

Geechi 2-1 over Bigg K: I think K is going to have one really good round, but Geechi's consistency and evolution has been pretty dope to watch. He's almost doing a bit of everything at this point. Expecting quite a few haymakers every round.

Rum Nitty 3-0 over Charron: This has to be Charron's toughest match, pen and rapping ability wise. I'm going against the grain on this one.

Illmac 2-1 over IllWill: Illmac hasn't lost since Rone. IllWill has the personality and the jokes....but Illmac's pen is simply on a different level.

Pass 3-0 over E Ness: E Ness is going to rap and dance....and be entertaining...Pass is going to smoke him.

XCel 3-0 over Quest: I just don't think Quest's aggression is going to enough to match Xcel's pen.

Chilla 2-1 over Real Deal: Chilla's first defense, I expect him to snap. Don't think Real Deal's angles are going to be enough.




So many battles dropping on the app, I forget about YT sometimes.


Mike P/Serius Jones dropped on the app. Debatable body. Mike P is on fire! Rapping and writing all 3 rounds were on point. The guy has refined his style a lot.
 
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