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Iron Eddie

Banned
Nov 25, 2019
9,812
This is not good, sounds like Anthem all over again, huge budgets for an online game with little fanfare spells disaster.

The trailers looked so cool too.
 

Mass Effect

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 31, 2017
16,783
I'm sooo glad I ended up not buying this. It's dying so fast I'm not sure it will be able to recover.
 

Yerffej

Prophet of Regret
Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,533
I remember Arthur Gies talking about how fucked this game will be based on really poor design decisions on RFM. Space being too competitive and all. I thought maybe he's right, but it's BF, it'll have some built in love from the fan base to carry it to better times. Kinda glad I was wrong. They need to take a hard look at what they are doing with this series. Just...whoof.
 

Karlinel

Prophet of Truth
Banned
Nov 10, 2017
7,826
Mallorca, Spain
I feel for BF fans...I bought
BF3 on PC: impressive looking, single player was pathetic, MP was pretty fun.
BF4 on ps4: bug-ridden game that took AGES to be stable, but pretty cool then.
BF hardline: jesus christ, what a mess of a game with poor everything.
BF1: this one pretty sweet, to be fair. Single player was kinda meh.
Played BF V and wasn't impressed, hear it's much better now so i may try it on EA Play.
1 good in a whole decade isn't great for such a big franchise.
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,651
Unless MoH changes up its gameplay to large scale warfare (like BF) I don't think it'd last long against CoD lol. The reboot years ago was awful.
 

Jmdajr

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,534
Well. I hope Star Wars Fallen 2 will be good.
It's single player so that should help...

Right?
 
Jan 4, 2018
8,636
Relaunch BFV as Battlefield 1944 with the Eastern Front, Normandy and the Bulge. Tons of new maps and vehicles and Grand Operations reworked. With BFV's original composers (End-of-Round themes are the best).

Forget BF2042. Can't be salvaged.
 
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The Fallen
Dec 26, 2018
5,340
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Brutal.

So which crashed faster - Anthem or this game?
 

Cake Boss

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,068
Honestly man BFV is already rich in content and already has the systems to go F2P with all the player and weapon skins already in the game.
 

Mass One

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,116
Make Sense. For me the core of BF is shooting and moving. I have absolutely no idea had 2042 stepped back that far in terms on fluidity and tightness.


BFV is one more Map Pack from Greatness just saying. I don't care if I have to sub for Premium.
 

daevv

Member
Oct 27, 2017
226
The PS5 version of the game doesn't even work on my PS5. Freezing, then crashing, at the menus after every match. The PS4 version works flawlessly though on the PS5. Go figure.
 

Freedonia

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,054
I've had fun with 2042, but I also haven't touched it in a month so that says a lot. It really lacks a hook to it, the gunplay and movement are fine but not great, definitely a step down from BF4, BF1, and BFV. The aesthetics and details are so off, and the maps don't have a great pacing to them. I can load up BF4 and play matches on Pearl Market for hours, whereas 2042 I can load up a few matches before wanting to do something else. All of the other popular fps/mp games nailed their fundamentals, while 2042 feels like it needs a lot of patches and seasons of content to make it more appealing. F2P won't even help, it'll just kill the game faster as people will drop it after a few matches
 

Shoot

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,544
Seems like the safe bet for people looking to play a Battlefield game is to get BF4 or BF1.

I wonder if there's a correlation between the quality of the multiplayer along with the campaign. Basically, if they have the time to make an ok-decent campaign, they've probably put in enough time to make a quality multiplayer experience as well.
I think so too. No campaign and only 7 maps was a bad sign we should have seen coming.
 

Achtung

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,035
This just sucks so bad.. I looked forward to a new modern BF game for years... They blew it in every way possible. BF was such a unique, fun and overall great experience and it is clear anyone in the past that made their games special have long left Dice.

This is what happens when a publisher ruins a studio and franchise.
Making it free to play will do nothing for the numbers... if people who paid money did not stick around.. why would someone who paid nothing once they find out how broken the loop is.
 

CloseTalker

Member
Oct 25, 2017
30,614
there's a reason COD is such a rigid template. they make improvements and try new things, but it's still COD. find a formula and fucking keep it. years between releases, throwing out what people like, removing features, adding in new ones no one asked for, that's not how you keep a multiplayer community alive
 

Ont

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 29, 2017
2,052
I have a feeling that Hell Let Loose will become a franchise and take Battlefield's place.
 

bitcloudrzr

Member
May 31, 2018
13,924
Maybe it's because I played on console (with no PC crossplay, what a wonderful world!) but I got really good with the rifles and they weren't oppressive like I imagine they would be on PC. It was nice that they took the time to consider making bolt actions more viable than usual to be a smidge more authentic to the time period. That kind of thinking is probably why BF1 was so popular and now seems to be rather beloved. To be back in the days when they made unique factions with their own uniforms and skins and languages and all those immersive things that add up on top of solid gameplay.
I played it on PS4 as a Medic main, I just do not like Recons getting a one shot on me. BF1 represents what a total polished package looks like and they were even able to pull off the ttk/accuracy change that really improved gunplay. Not everything worked, but it was a well thought out and executed experience through and through. BF3 was similar in my experience except the launch was rougher compared to 1 but I really liked the design of both. BF1 on PSN is actually doing quite well since it is part of the PS+ Collection.

I have a feeling that Hell Let Loose will become a franchise and take Battlefield's place.
I good game but leans too far into the realistic and tactical niches. BF1 and BFV were both given away on PS+ and both seem to still be healthy even though I am primarily on 2042.
 

Mahonay

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,316
Pencils Vania
I actually enjoy playing the game and I would still say this is the appropriate response to what was ultimately delivered. They talked such a big game about 2042, and then to release what they did in the end is pretty laughable.

Months after release and they still haven't started their first Season of the "battle pass". What are they doing.
 

Falchion

Member
Oct 25, 2017
40,937
Boise
Oof that's even worse than I thought given how unhappy EA was with the sales. All these free options (Apex, Fortnite, Warzone) are eating its lunch.
 

Mcfrank

Member
Oct 28, 2017
15,216
Really annoyed Gamestop made me buy this to get my Series X. And it was a digital code so I cant even trade it in.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,750
Norman, OK
there's a reason COD is such a rigid template. they make improvements and try new things, but it's still COD. find a formula and fucking keep it. years between releases, throwing out what people like, removing features, adding in new ones no one asked for, that's not how you keep a multiplayer community alive

Yep. All the community was really looking for was a next-gen spiritual successor to BF3/4. What they got instead was a bastardized hatchet-job attempt at competing with Warzone and COD's microtransaction model. While not cool, it's not the bugs or the missing features that are the real issue, it's the fact that the fundamental framework of the game is complete nonsense. It doesn't work at all for a BF title.
 

headspawn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,608
That's a shame, I honestly thought 2042 was going to be the comeback story for BF but after playing it, I'm not surprised, it felt pretty bad to play the last time I tried.
 

Kalentan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
44,656
I have a feeling that Hell Let Loose will become a franchise and take Battlefield's place.

Eh, disagree. HLL isn't bad but it's too much in the other direction. Too hardcore to ever get to how big BF was at it's peak.

The trailers looked so cool too.

Honestly? That was the worrying thing for me in a weird way. Most of the trailers never showed actual gameplay. Just in-engine stuff and whatever gameplay they did show was heavily scripted and even then I noticed some weird stuff.

But for me one of the big red flags was the Rendezook in the reveal trailer. That should have been a big tip off that the game was going to go in a very different direction. While a staple of the series, a crazy move a player did while recording. It was one of those: "Battlefield" moments that felt like you were almost breaking the game by doing something so wild. So when that became official marketing material it made me feel like: "Are they trying to make 2042 nothing but "BF Moments"? and in ways, yeah and when you try to make everything a "BF Moment" it makes those moments feel way less special.

Kinda like how DICE said they don't get why people liked BC2 so much, I don't think they actually understood why those: "Battlefield moments" truly stood out.

there's a reason COD is such a rigid template. they make improvements and try new things, but it's still COD. find a formula and fucking keep it. years between releases, throwing out what people like, removing features, adding in new ones no one asked for, that's not how you keep a multiplayer community alive

Yup. Don't like CoD this year? Don't worry, come back next year and maybe you will like that one. You don't need to worry about being stuck with a bad entry for years.
 

Mahonay

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,316
Pencils Vania
Yep. All the community was really looking for was a next-gen spiritual successor to BF3/4. What they got instead was a bastardized hatchet-job attempt at competing with Warzone and COD's microtransaction model. While not cool, it's not the bugs or the missing features that are the real issue, it's the fact that the fundamental framework of the game is complete nonsense. It doesn't work at all for a BF title.
The in game store is still inactive and there's no season to work towards. They didn't even do that.
 

medyej

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,436
Completely expected. The game is just straight bad. Going F2P or doing updates isn't going to fix the fact that it's core its an unfun game that feels terrible. The specialists system is a downgrade. The maps are awful. The feedback to players and sheer lack of information is aggravating. This game has nothing going for it.

I will say seeing this all play out is quite cathartic after anyone discussing the game's problems in the BF2042 OT got hounded out by the game's defenders.
 

EnronERA

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,057
I have a feeling that Hell Let Loose will become a franchise and take Battlefield's place.

As an avid Hell Let Loose player, I feel pretty confident in saying that this will NEVER happen. HLL isn't complicated, but its far more complicated than battlefield and it lacks a lot of the things AAA shooter players have come to expect in those games. It's somewhere in between Battlefield and a hardcore sim experience like Squad or ARMA, being closer to Battlefield on that scale but at the same time, NOT being all that close to Battlefield if you get what I mean.

I love HLL and wish more people would try it, but the console launch was completely botched and no one is playing it anymore, last i checked. PC is great fun with an awesome community, and there's always full servers. But its not for everyone.
 

SimplyComplex

Member
May 23, 2018
4,020
it's still baffling to me that the first content drop for this game isn't coming until March. That's 4 months and would have been 5 if they didn't delay it.

Obviously the scale is a bit different than something like CoD or Halo but you should have SOMETHING substantial 1 month after launch at the very least.
 

Mahonay

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,316
Pencils Vania
Completely expected. The game is just straight bad. Going F2P or doing updates isn't going to fix the fact that it's core its an unfun game that feels terrible. The specialists system is a downgrade. The maps are awful. The feedback to players and sheer lack of information is aggravating. This game has nothing going for it.

I will say seeing this all play out is quite cathartic after anyone discussing the game's problems in the BF2042 OT got hounded out by the game's defenders.
Specialists are fun. People also now heal/revive and hand out ammo a lot more than they used to. That is really not a critical issue for the game IMO.

Maps are definitely half baked though. There's just not enough there in general to make people want to stick around. There's nothing to invest in. There's not even an in-game scoreboard to track how you're doing (which is now coming in a patch months after release). There's zero career stats to access as well (other than tracking badge progress which has a hard limit). It is completely unsurprising this game bled players this quickly when you combine it with how broken the game itself was at launch.
 

JigglesBunny

Prophet of Truth
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
31,119
Chicago
it's still baffling to me that the first content drop for this game isn't coming until March. That's 4 months and would have been 5 if they didn't delay it.

Obviously the scale is a bit different than something like CoD or Halo but you should have SOMETHING substantial 1 month after launch at the very least.
To be fair, Infinite isn't getting its first post-launch content drop until May either.
 

EnronERA

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,057
Even with all of the issues, I can look past most of them and still find enjoyment in 2042. When you get in a game, just running around and killing people and stalking vehicles is stil fun, even with all of the stupidity of the specialist system and dumb movement options. The thing that really limits it as far as i'm concerned is the lack of maps. I was tired of them after the first two weeks, and its why me and my friends will play this for a few days, then not touch it for 2 or 3 weeks.
 
Jan 4, 2018
8,636
Oh and I just noticed that COD Black Ops III is still in the too 50 (although to be fair, BF2042 has 2 versions counted so it may be actually ahead of Black Ops III)