Battlefield 6 to be revealed soon?

nolifebr · Apr 22, 2021

IGN Brazil just tweeted and deleted soon after:

EA reveals new Battlefield for smartphones and even more news about Battlefield 6, with even more players.

Novo Battlefield para celulares e Battlefield 6 com ainda mais jogadores

EA confirma duas novas experiências Battlefield em desenvolvimento - uma para consoles e PCs e outra para celulares

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Nateo · Apr 22, 2021

I mean wont it happen at EA Play like every single year? They just seem to be skipping the teasing this year.

Tovarisc · Apr 22, 2021

Rumors have been about teaser type reveal for late April / early May with full gameplay reveal bit later (EA Play most likely).

Niosai · Apr 22, 2021

Wow, an announcement in the middle of April would be cool. I've been excited to hear something about BF6, honestly.

EatChildren · Apr 22, 2021

Most likely yes. From memory, both Battlefield 1 and V were formally revealed in May, and Battlefield 4 in April, with trailers that showcased the aesthetic and tonal presentation along with an assortment of features presented in cinematic format. They were both followed by formal gameplay reveals and proper details/interviews in June at EA Play.

I assume Battlefield 6 will follow a similar format. I'm pretty sure Battlefield 3 was also technically announced/revealed prior to E3. DICE/EA's format with the series for about a decade now has been to announce and reveal the setting/tone/title before E3, and then follow up with media and gameplay during June events.

5taquitos · Apr 22, 2021

It just says more news about 6, likely confirming 128 players, not the actual reveal.

Deleted member 18823 · Apr 22, 2021

Teaser at May, full reveal/blowout at EA Play is my guess

I think they did the same with BFV too

Boogolo · Apr 22, 2021

My guess is a CGI video in May which highlights the platforms, the features and some flashy look at the modern vehicles and weapons. Then in June/July we get a look at actual gameplay with a release in November

Tovarisc · Apr 22, 2021

Boogolo said:
My guess is a CGI video in May which highlights the platforms, the features and some flashy look at the modern vehicles and weapons. Then in June/July we get a look at actual gameplay with a release in November

DICE hasn't done CGI reveal trailers since they started to use Frostbite engine. All those have been in-engine with maximum hero assets so they do look better than actual gameplay ends up looking.

icecold1983 · Apr 22, 2021

The "in engine"(CGI) trailer will be May. Actual footage in June.

Tovarisc said:
DICE hasn't done CGI reveal trailers since they started to use Frostbite engine. All those have been in-engine with maximum hero assets so they do look better than actual gameplay ends up looking.

What is the actual real world difference between CGI and in engine footage rendered offline?

Donos · Apr 22, 2021

Free me from CoD.

Tovarisc · Apr 22, 2021

icecold1983 said:
What is the actual real world difference between CGI and in engine footage rendered offline?

To me CGI is step beyond that, think something like CGI that high end movies use to do scenes. That is several steps above Frostbite rendering hero assets.

M. Wallace · Apr 22, 2021

The teaser isn't gameplay according to rumors. Probably won't see that until mid summer.

icecold1983 · Apr 22, 2021

Tovarisc said:
To me CGI is step beyond that, think something like CGI that high end movies use to do scenes. That is several steps above Frostbite rendering hero assets.

CGi

"In engine"

What is the actual real world difference? both are pretty equally far off from the actual gameplay.

nekkid · Apr 22, 2021

What's this about BF for mobile?

I really miss the commander mode. There was something fun about heavily influencing a 64 player game of BF4 while sitting on the toilet!

Kwigo · Apr 22, 2021

They just updated their facebook profile pic.
It's happening!

Rygar 8Bit · Apr 22, 2021

That leak thing last year said spring reveal. So hopefully soon.

Humidex · Apr 22, 2021

The Battlefield is Expanding

An update on the next Battlefield for PC and console – and the franchise going mobile from DICE General Manager Oskar Gabrielson.

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GooberDooberCBC · Apr 22, 2021

I think its an early May reveal with a blowout at EA play.

DarrenM · Apr 22, 2021

nekkid said:
What's this about BF for mobile?

BR game probably makes the most sense. But if it has other traditional battlefield modes, that would be amazing.

Deleted member 37928 · Apr 22, 2021

icecold1983 said:
The "in engine"(CGI) trailer will be May. Actual footage in June.

What is the actual real world difference between CGI and in engine footage rendered offline?

In-engine means that the video is rendered using the actual game engine, in this case Frostbite. When it comes to Battlefield the trailers operate much like fan movies where the creator directs the action using tools already found within the game and its engine.

CGI however is achieved with powerful rendering software such as Adobe After Effects, which is not exclusive to video games. It takes a lot more horsepower to create these effects as they are more complex in geometry, destruction etc. The movie 2012 for instance had a very expensive scene where the ground caved in as a car was driving through a city. You would think that the animator was behind the look of the destruction but it was all the work of the powerful CGI software and its capability to create random destruction that looked very life-like.

arsene_P5 · Apr 22, 2021

This sounds so good and hopefully Dice delivers the ultimate BF experience. Seems like Next gen exclusive confirmed 👌

It has everything we love about Battlefield – and takes all of it to the next level. Epic scale. All-out military warfare. Crazy, unexpected moments. Game-changing destruction. Massive battles, packed with more players and mayhem than ever before. All brought to life with the power of next-gen consoles and PCs.

The Battlefield is Expanding

An update on the next Battlefield for PC and console – and the franchise going mobile from DICE General Manager Oskar Gabrielson.

www.ea.com

MJForum Poster · Apr 22, 2021

icecold1983 said:
CGi

"In engine"

What is the actual real world difference? both are pretty equally far off from the actual gameplay.

That BFV reveal video is still so bad. The amount of times the player character falls back on his butt to open fire is just hilarious

romey · Apr 22, 2021

Is this gonna be a 2021 release? That'll be sweet.

arsene_P5 · Apr 22, 2021

romey said:
Is this gonna be a 2021 release? That'll be sweet.

Yep.

Together, we are creating a jaw-dropping experience for you to enjoy later in 2021.

The Battlefield is Expanding

An update on the next Battlefield for PC and console – and the franchise going mobile from DICE General Manager Oskar Gabrielson.

www.ea.com

Septy · Apr 22, 2021

icecold1983 said:
CGi

"In engine"

What is the actual real world difference? both are pretty equally far off from the actual gameplay.

The battlefield trailer isn't that far off.

arsene_P5 · Apr 22, 2021

icecold1983 said:
What is the actual real world difference between CGI and in engine footage rendered offline

The difference as I understand it is in engine uses assets from the game and is captured using the engine. GCI has assets specifically build for it and nothing to do with the game technically.

icecold1983 · Apr 22, 2021

Septy said:
The battlefield trailer isn't that far off.

It sure is.

arsene_P5 said:
The difference as I understand it is in engine uses assets from the game and is captured using the engine. GCI has assets specifically build for it and nothing to do with the game technically.

Except BF in engine trailers are full of assets/lighting/animation/destruction/reflections that dont exist in the actual game. The only difference today between "in engine" and CGI is the engine used. Given that todays game engines can produce CGI level visuals when the realtime requirement is thrown out the window its a meaningless difference.

elenarie · Apr 22, 2021

icecold1983 said:
Except BF in engine trailers are full of assets/lighting/animation/destruction/reflections that dont exist in the actual game. The only difference today between "in engine" and CGI is the engine used. Given that todays game engines can produce CGI level visuals when the realtime requirement is thrown out the window its a meaningless difference.

We don't make trailer-specific assets or levels. :) That would be a waste of valuable time, people, and resources that would better go into the actual game itself.

Technically, any trailer we show is playable, but the content they show has been tailored and scripted to create some drama, hype and to hook players to the game. With some smart camera placements and timing of events.

If you see a location in a trailer that may differ from the same one in the actual game, that is due to dev iteration between the trailer work and the release, and due to optimisations to bring things into performance.

HolyFridge · Apr 22, 2021

The trailer has probably been shot entirely from in-game shots. And it will probably say so in the beginning of the trailer. No BS this time around, no need for that.. ;)

xem · Apr 22, 2021

elenarie said:
We don't make trailer-specific assets or levels. :) That would be a waste of valuable time, people, and resources that would better go into the actual game itself.

Technically, any trailer we show is playable, but the content they show has been tailored and scripted to create some drama, hype and to hook players to the game. With some smart camera placements and timing of events.

If you see a location in a trailer that may differ from the same one in the actual game, that is due to dev iteration between the trailer work and the release, and due to optimisations to bring things into performance.

It works!

icecold1983 · Apr 22, 2021

elenarie said:
We don't make trailer-specific assets or levels. :) That would be a waste of valuable time, people, and resources that would better go into the actual game itself.

Technically, any trailer we show is playable, but the content they show has been tailored and scripted to create some drama, hype and to hook players to the game. With some smart camera placements and timing of events.

If you see a location in a trailer that may differ from the same one in the actual game, that is due to dev iteration between the trailer work and the release, and due to optimisations to bring things into performance.

You can get into technicalities of developer intention but the end result is still a reveal trailer that looks like it was made for an entirely different generation of hardware.

Reveal trailer compared to the retail map.

StrangerDanger · Apr 22, 2021

MJForum Poster said:
That BFV reveal video is still so bad. The amount of times the player character falls back on his butt to open fire is just hilarious

To be fair...dolphin diving is a very common tactic in BF games, so i think it's pretty accurate of the player base :P

Alienous · Apr 22, 2021

icecold1983 said:
You can get into technicalities of developer intention but the end result is still a reveal trailer that looks like it was made for an entirely different generation of hardware.

Reveal trailer compared to the retail map.

That reveal trailer looks like a moving bullshot to me. It's not as far off from the final product as a CGI trailer is.

You can look at aspects of it - effects, foliage, geometry - and glean visual information about the actual game. It's 'representative' - the assets shown in a really polished and orchestrated way.

icecold1983 · Apr 22, 2021

Alienous said:
That reveal trailer looks like a moving bullshot to me. It's not as far off from the final product as a CGI trailer is.

You can look at aspects of it - effects, foliage, geometry - and glean visual information about the actual game. It's 'representative' - the assets shown in a really polished and orchestrated way.

Couldnt that all be said for this as well?

Hawkeye 131 · Apr 22, 2021

My only complaint about Battlefield reveals is I'd much prefer actual gameplay rather than the overly scripted Michael Bay explosion-fests that we typically see.

Indy in the Fridge · Apr 22, 2021

icecold1983 said:
You can get into technicalities of developer intention but the end result is still a reveal trailer that looks like it was made for an entirely different generation of hardware.

Reveal trailer compared to the retail map.

Honestly I thought it was a dope reveal trailer. I wouldn't have had any expectation that the actual game would look 100% like that. Overlaying the UI on top of very apparent bespoke animation is cheap, I'll admit, but if you think that sort of lighting, bokeh, and smooth animation is indicative of actual gameplay on PS4/XB1 then I don't know what to tell you.

M. Wallace · Apr 22, 2021

Please have 8 player squads.

kratos2412 · Apr 22, 2021

Im so excited for this Game. And im reading its nextgen + PC. Best conditions for the DICE team.

icecold1983 · Apr 22, 2021

Indy in the Fridge said:
Honestly I thought it was a dope reveal trailer. I wouldn't have had any expectation that the actual game would look 100% like that. Overlaying the UI on top of very apparent bespoke animation is cheap, I'll admit, but if you think that sort of lighting, bokeh, and smooth animation is indicative of actual gameplay on PS4/XB1 then I don't know what to tell you.

I knew it was for all intents and purposes CGI the second I saw it. Its awesome to watch dont get me wrong. Here is an in engine trailer I find representative with some "hero asset polishing."

Now that is decently representative of the experience we got with the pacific expansion.

Alienous · Apr 22, 2021

icecold1983 said:
Couldnt that all be said for this as well?

I wouldn't say so. It translates nothing about geometry detail, effects (like fire and smoke), or foliage shading & density from the actual game.

But as I said the BFV reveal trailer looked like a moving bullshot to me. You can read what a game would actually look like underneath the manipulation of a bullshot, but you can't do that with a CGI trailer.

icecold1983 · Apr 22, 2021

Alienous said:
I wouldn't say so. It translates nothing about geometry detail, effects (like fire and smoke), or foliage shading & density from the actual game.

But as I said the BFV reveal trailer looked like a moving bullshot to me. You can read what a game would actually look like underneath the manipulation of a bullshot, but you can't do that with a CGI trailer.

It translates all of those to the same degree the BFV trailer does. it just shows quick few second glimpses of various levels as opposed to a long sequence of 1 particular level.

arsene_P5 · Apr 22, 2021

icecold1983 said:
The only difference today between "in engine" and CGI is the engine used. Given that todays game engines can produce CGI level visuals when the realtime requirement is thrown out the window its a meaningless difference.

The difference is clearly the usage of in-game assets as developers said when discussing these topics before. Those perhaps are all LOD0 assets, but the fact that they are in-game assets mean for me that you can get a feel for the game. That's why I prefer them over GCI, which does nothing for me.

I recently played BF5 and I am not saying this is how the game looks on consoles. But playing it recently means it's in my mind and watching this trailer lets me say with confidence those are in-game assets. You can see it best when the soldier is on the ground and you see his face for example. The trailer overall looks better, but it's not a generational leap as you suggested.

In-engine trailers remind me a bit of racing game photo modes really. Just games using LOD0 and more post processing to make the imagine look better. But nothing impossible or several generations ahead. In fact the hair in the BF5 trailer looks worse than the new models hair in FIFA 21 and it's easily noticable.

Alienous said:
I wouldn't say so. It translates nothing about geometry detail, effects (like fire and smoke), or foliage shading & density from the actual game.

But as I said the BFV reveal trailer looked like a moving bullshot to me. You can read what a game would actually look like underneath the manipulation of a bullshot, but you can't do that with a CGI trailer.

I agree with your comment here.

nolifebr · Apr 22, 2021

Please DICE, cross play 🙏

icecold1983 · Apr 22, 2021

arsene_P5 said:
The difference is clearly the usage of in-game assets as developers said when discussing these topics before. Those perhaps are all LOD0 assets, but the fact that they are in-game assets mean for me that you can get a feel for the game. That's why I prefer them over GCI, which does nothing for me.

I recently played BF5 and I am not saying this is how the game looks on consoles. But playing it recently means it's in my mind and watching this trailer lets me say with confidence those are in-game assets. You can see it best when the soldier is on the ground and you see his face for example. The trailer overall looks better, but it's not a generational leap as you suggested.

In-engine trailers remind me a bit of racing game photo modes really. Just games using LOD0 and more post processing to make the imagine look better. But nothing impossible or several generations ahead. In fact the hair in the BF5 trailer looks worse than the new models hair in FIFA 21 and it's easily noticable.
I agree with your comment here.

Ok, plz point me to the house in the actual game that has that high fidelity lighting and GI. Show me realtime bullet holes dynamically affecting the lighting of these buildings as well. Show me those high poly tank and character models with superb micro detail. Show me those high poly tree models, individual pieces of the bridge being blown off and interacting with the terrain in such a complex fashion, planes crashing and leaving complex deformation trails in the terrain etc etc etc. This is the twisted steel map btw just to save you some time.

Toasty · Apr 22, 2021

peoplewhoplay said:
Teaser at May, full reveal/blowout at EA Play is my guess

I think they did the same with BFV too

They did that strange Trevor Noah reveal event.

arsene_P5 · Apr 22, 2021

icecold1983 said:
Ok, plz point me to the house in the actual game that has that high fidelity lighting and GI. Show me realtime bullet holes dynamically affecting the lighting of these buildings as well. Show me those high poly tank and character models with superb micro detail. Show me those high poly tree models, individual pieces of the bridge being blown off and interacting with the terrain in such a complex fashion, planes crashing and leaving complex deformation trails in the terrain etc etc etc. This is the twisted steel map btw just to save you some time.

Why aren't you trying to proof it, considering a developer has already confirmed those are game assets? If you think differently that's fine, but if you want me to proof something you should proof, because you claim it's false, then that's on you to investigate.

icecold1983 · Apr 22, 2021

arsene_P5 said:
Why aren't you trying to proof it, considering a developer has already confirmed those are game assets. If you think differently that's fine, but if you want me to proof something you should proof, because it's already confirmed by a dev, then I have to say you should proof him wrong then.

Ive already provided video evidence showing the stark difference between assets in the trailer and the retail game. You are still disagreeing so show me those assets in the actual gameplay.

Okabe · Apr 22, 2021

Me when I see someone arguing with an actual Dev of the game

icecold1983 · Apr 22, 2021

Okabe said:
Me when I see someone arguing with an actual Dev of the game

I know right? These totally are the same with just some post process clean up for the trailer!!

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