My guess is that this will backfire on them so bad. They want casual players to stay/come back, but what will happen is the core players will slowly abandon the game.
Any word when it will go live today?
Any word when it will go live today?
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Battlefield V |OT| Band of Brothers and Sisters
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I stopped fortifying. I only build health/ammo stations now and that's it
I didn't mind the TTK, but I'll hold judgement on the changes until I play it. I wouldn't mind another small increase in player visibility though.
What I do mind are the numerous bugs/fixes that make the game frustrating at times. I know they have indicated some of the specific fixes are in the works (bipod deployment), but I feel alot of these things should have been resolved before release. But I have yet to hear anything on the buggy assignment system. 2 of yesterdays dailies weren't registering for me (simple ones at that, 2 kills as assault and 2 kills as recon). I went on a rampage as assault with my mid-long range favorite M1A1 carbine and it didn't register anything for a whole game so I decided to try recon assignment; I barely play recon as it is (not my style) but I was able to rack up~10 kills with the starting weapon and it wasn't tracked. Got frustrated and logged off, came back on later that night and I was able to get them done.
Then there is the ToW assignments... I was one of the players who had a hard time just getting the first assignment to register and when it finally would show completed in game, back at the main screen it would be reset to 0. I finally completed/unlocked the weapon on Monday, but of course I had difficulty with the stationary weapon assignment (1 kill should be easy, right?) (I didn't even bother trying the health crate assignment). I load up a match of Rotterdam as support, head straight to lower side of A flag and build the Vickers facing the bridge, load up some sandbag protection and wait for enemies to make their way over. Mowed down about 9 enemies until a sniper from C flag area headshots me (nice shot). Nothing registered. A few matches later I'm in Narvik, happened to jump on the AA gun to help take down a pesky bomber and get a 'kill assist' with our fighter plane on the bombers tail. The assignment completes!
Add onto that, last night I couldn't get the xtra 30k xp for the damn snowman since fortifications are broken with the last patch. That 30k would have put me into the next level and unlocked the skin/camo for the new weapon.
The general combat, gunplay, game modes and (most) maps keep me coming back, but the numerous bugs (in since release, or added in last patch) are beginning to drive me crazy.
What I do mind are the numerous bugs/fixes that make the game frustrating at times. I know they have indicated some of the specific fixes are in the works (bipod deployment), but I feel alot of these things should have been resolved before release. But I have yet to hear anything on the buggy assignment system. 2 of yesterdays dailies weren't registering for me (simple ones at that, 2 kills as assault and 2 kills as recon). I went on a rampage as assault with my mid-long range favorite M1A1 carbine and it didn't register anything for a whole game so I decided to try recon assignment; I barely play recon as it is (not my style) but I was able to rack up~10 kills with the starting weapon and it wasn't tracked. Got frustrated and logged off, came back on later that night and I was able to get them done.
Then there is the ToW assignments... I was one of the players who had a hard time just getting the first assignment to register and when it finally would show completed in game, back at the main screen it would be reset to 0. I finally completed/unlocked the weapon on Monday, but of course I had difficulty with the stationary weapon assignment (1 kill should be easy, right?) (I didn't even bother trying the health crate assignment). I load up a match of Rotterdam as support, head straight to lower side of A flag and build the Vickers facing the bridge, load up some sandbag protection and wait for enemies to make their way over. Mowed down about 9 enemies until a sniper from C flag area headshots me (nice shot). Nothing registered. A few matches later I'm in Narvik, happened to jump on the AA gun to help take down a pesky bomber and get a 'kill assist' with our fighter plane on the bombers tail. The assignment completes!
Add onto that, last night I couldn't get the xtra 30k xp for the damn snowman since fortifications are broken with the last patch. That 30k would have put me into the next level and unlocked the skin/camo for the new weapon.
The general combat, gunplay, game modes and (most) maps keep me coming back, but the numerous bugs (in since release, or added in last patch) are beginning to drive me crazy.
Preferring the lower TTK is fine, and I agree that this is just a bandaid on the core TTD problem which is likely netcode related.
That said, I really don't understand the logic of how a higher TTK is "lowering the skill ceiling". That seems completely backwards to me.
Higher TTK means that the person who aims better will win more often. How is that lowering the skill ceiling?
That said, I really don't understand the logic of how a higher TTK is "lowering the skill ceiling". That seems completely backwards to me.
Higher TTK means that the person who aims better will win more often. How is that lowering the skill ceiling?
Less emphasis on positioning, spotting, reaction, and crosshair placement. More emphasis on tracking, recoil management, and movement.
The former is more respected in FPS.
Cant connect to EA servers for BF V on my end. Weirdly, just watched a family member play a game on BF V on my console 10 min ago, after he exited, I went into my account and it hasnt logged in since then.
It's beyond anyone understanding how do this types of bugs pass internal QA tests
Its still a 2 shot kill if you hit the upper body, 3 shot kill if you hit lower body or limbs(still 2 shot kill if you hit limbs/lower body+head). It did make them alot less viable close range tough since its harder to be pinpoint accurate in hectic CQ situations=/
I dunno is it again different on different platforms, the last patch actually made building fortifications better, pc.
You build all the fortifications 1 step earlier but you see the building state being "stuck" until you move away so it builds it.
At least thats how it worked when I played yesterday, I was just building mega bases in instant like I was playing fortnite as support.
It normally takes 3 ticks to build sandbag wall it took just 2.
Just some speculations:
The changes are going to push more people into support and recon. Players are going to want weapons with larger magazines now or the OHK.
Shotguns could be an issue. Shotguns are already good, but they were kept in check by the TTK. They aren't changing any values on the shotgun, which worries me.
Unless you're a head shot machine the self-loading rifles are going to be bad. They already take 2-3 shots to kill and now you're going to increase that with their extremely limited ammo capacity.
The changes are going to push more people into support and recon. Players are going to want weapons with larger magazines now or the OHK.
Shotguns could be an issue. Shotguns are already good, but they were kept in check by the TTK. They aren't changing any values on the shotgun, which worries me.
Unless you're a head shot machine the self-loading rifles are going to be bad. They already take 2-3 shots to kill and now you're going to increase that with their extremely limited ammo capacity.
Why the hell are they changing the TTK? What sort of idiocy is this. Really DICE - you are changing one of the best things about your game. You finally nailed TTK in a Battlefield game. Now you are changing it and the net result is you will drag everyone into using closer range automatic weapons or snipers. Because the rest will be (as in older BF games) absolutely no use. I really do despair that finally DICE had made a game where engagement lengths were genuinely mixed and interesting. And now they will go back to the older style where you either pick an AR and run and gun or sit back and snipe!
AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same. Helped me finally get the Stationnary weapon kill to get the VSO. On point A in Devastation, build all fortifications in a blink while crouching under fire, then built the heavy canon and blasted an entire squad with one shell. They didn't like that very much.
So what's up with the lvl 20 assault assignment that's kill 7 enemies with explosives in a round? I've killed plenty with C4 and the panzerfaust and sometimes it will count and sometimes it wont. Has anyone completed this?
Ps 4 here. Hmmm... so it should be seen as an improvement? Managed to play only 3 rounds conquest yesterday, but it was different and felt awkward... maybe it's a matter of adjustment.
I'll give it another try later on.. thanks!
Just did. Very easy. Equip both the Panzer and Dynamite and start hunting vehicles bruv
I did plenty of building on PS4 last night, it even progressed the relevant assignments.
People are quickly losing faith in DICE's balancing and for good reason.
It's still too early to say for certain but if there's one unified notion about things BFV gets right it's the gunplay and now they're gonna "fix it".
It's still too early to say for certain but if there's one unified notion about things BFV gets right it's the gunplay and now they're gonna "fix it".
No, I'm assuming it's going to go live when week 2 of Overture starts (~10h).
They will due to their own failings continue to bury this game until they are forced to move onto the next project due to lack of a growing player base.
Basically this update is: "Hey guys, we have been gathering feedback and we heard you loud and clear. We know you love the current TTK so we are going to change it, we'll see you on the Battlefield!"
There are still so many issues that need to be fixed and in typical DICE fashion they choose the one thing that the player base was able to agree was actually great and are as you said, "fixing it".
Hardcore Conquest is showing in my list. So it begins.....
Also: can't find a single fucking game right now. In any mode, on any map. Seriously Dice, what the hell....
Also: can't find a single fucking game right now. In any mode, on any map. Seriously Dice, what the hell....
Haven't tried it yet but man I really enjoyed the old TTK and such. It was an adjustment but it also created a nice skill game and style of play. Unfortunate DICE isn't listening to the core community on this issue.
Adjusting TTK... may be the beginning of the end, honestly. It's going to start fracturing the player base in a BF game that has probably sold less than any other BF.
People should have never had faith in DICE when it comes to balancing
Seriously this TTK news is so annoying. DICE is idiotic. I wonder how much stuff this patch will break.
Yeah I've been doing that too. Toss the dynamite and then hit it with the Panzer to save some animations/time.
I played one round and it felt good. Not dramatically different. You have to pick your targets more carefully now since they are able to get to cover more efficiently now. I actually feel that I suck a bit more now since I felt that I got some kills with the old TTK that I didn't deserve. My initial impression is pretty positive even though I have to improve my tracking of targets by quite a bit.
I have 16k coins, lol.
I guess they back paid.
Then I spent it all on Royal Motivations. RIP coins.
I guess they back paid.
Then I spent it all on Royal Motivations. RIP coins.
So I guess I will now start playing "hardcore conquest". Don't know whats so hardcore about it, but okay.
The game had multiple betas, even a early access version (which I bought) where they could get feedback months in advance of release. They even pushed it back in order to tighten things up. Here we are a month after launch and they are still fiddling with the core gameplay model and making sweeping changes. So yes, this game will be stuck in a state of limbo until maybe a different portion of DICE will step in like they did with BF4 and actually get the game where it deserves to be. We all know if Anthem is a success that EA will essentially bail on BFV and focus on the new shiny money maker.
Man I've not seen one good thing posted about these TTK changes on twitter. I really hope player impressions change when they play because it really seems like DICE are fucking themselves over. Last thing we need is to have people dropping because of a change no one asked for.
There's just so much shit surrounding this game. What is even going on over at DICE/EA? Are they in full blown panic mode or what?
There's just so much shit surrounding this game. What is even going on over at DICE/EA? Are they in full blown panic mode or what?
So people really hate ttk? I was interested in trying it
Too many times I feel the game favours twitch reactions or campers who can 1 frame you
Is it only on certain servers or is it changed temporarily or permanently?
Too many times I feel the game favours twitch reactions or campers who can 1 frame you
Is it only on certain servers or is it changed temporarily or permanently?
This is more my issue. I would have been fine with this TTK change before launch. They had plenty of time to evaluate data beforehand. But now after the fact they suddenly want to make a change to the one area that the core really likes. And for very dubious reasons. They think magically people will suddenly pick up the game. Please the audience you currently have. Don't chase some mythical audience that doesn't exist.
1 bullet for me doesn't make or break the game. But it does show they either don't have faith in their vision, or they don't care about what a large segment core of the playing audience thinks.
They hate the change without having tried it. Classic gaming community.
Or they had absolutely no issue pre-change and liked the gun play the way it was. So they enjoyed what they were playing. Classic gaming community
There were issues. You dont have time to react. Normal mode shouldnt play like hardcore mode, period.
This is such a childish and immature behavior. For such impulsive overeactions the normal audience like me and you have to mess around with this poor selection of cosmetics etc..
Ignorance is the cause of toxicity.
Yet they put out the game this way even though they internally tested the game this way for months. So were these "issues" not there then or did they suddenly appear post launch? And has DICE fixed one frame kills and latency kills where I get killed behind walls? I'm assuming so since those are also "issues".
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