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But why?
If you want a meatgrinder, go Breakthrough.
If you want a walking simulator, go Hamada/Twisted Steel.
We need maps which specialize in something as opposed to being just a different layout of the same shit. Maps specializing:
• Urban
• Trenches
• Open fields
• Fortress
• Urban vehicles
• Countryside vehicles
• Forest
• Jungle
• Mountains
• Seaside
• Winter (Fucking 2013 strategy game Coh2 had separate vehicle traction for ice, mud, snow. You would see pathfinding drifting, avoiding destroyed patches of ice and vehicle sinking if the ice is destroyed below them.
• Naval
• Air
• Islands
Then combine those factors with map layout:
• Long and narrow
• Wide open diamond-like
• Square
• Custom shapes, like the Wake Island
Further, combine with the weather, night-time, size or gamemode.
Tl;dr: we don't need bigger game modes because there is an unlimited amount of WW2 content unexplored.
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They can easily fucking fix these spawn deaths by adding some short spawn protection/invulnerability. Make it so the player can't shoot either so they wouldn't have an advantage.
Nice. We'll have to set up a time to play. I was so swamped with work for the last month, I didn't have time to do jack.
What do u guys think of this opinion on attrition
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefiel...ion_is_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefiel...ion_is_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
Most modes give the attackers an extra tank, which is supposed to balance the map. You play breakthrough: AA tanks make a short work of snipers/MGs, while Heavier tanks demolish fortifications.
The problem starts with a map like Devastation Breakthrough, where attackers are just fucked: no vehicles, no cover, no high ground. Defenders have the buildings, elevation, ammo, fortifications etc.
And then there are maps like Aerodrome, where attackers have 4 tanks, trenches and the entire cliff to attack from, there aren't even good fortification position for defenders (AT guns, tank traps, barricades).
This roadmap... I bet the conflict is DICE trying to allocate enough resources for what they planned to do with ToW, while EA "legal and finance divisions" are like:
Most modes give the attackers an extra tank, which is supposed to balance the map. You play breakthrough: AA tanks make a short work of snipers/MGs, while Heavier tanks demolish fortifications.
The problem starts with a map like Devastation Breakthrough, where attackers are just fucked: no vehicles, no cover, no high ground. Defenders have the buildings, elevation, ammo, fortifications etc.
And then there are maps like Aerodrome, where attackers have 4 tanks, trenches and the entire cliff to attack from, there aren't even good fortification position for defenders (AT guns, tank traps, barricades).
This roadmap... I bet the conflict is DICE trying to allocate enough resources for what they planned to do with ToW, while EA "legal and finance divisions" are like:
I like Attrition, but I feel like Battlefield players are some of the suckiest bunch of players ever
In any other team game— OW, Siege, etc., I can consistently rely on teammates giving me what I need
BF, for being such a team based game and for all dice's experienc, never gets this shit right. The commorose is still crap.
Medics do help, but they are fewer in between thanks to how crazy versatile Assault is. I just feel as if Medics and support are too infrequent and support never tosses ammo
Dying because i need to camp because i dont have any meds left really sucks. Begging teammates for health packs also sucks. I still think they should allow us to pick off items from teammates if they dont give u shit, or at least make crates tossed out last a longer time in the game world (maybe allow 2 at a time?)
Alternatively, buff the supply drop reinforcement so it has like 20 uses instead of like 1
And why does this series still have such awful team structure. Where is the communication between squad leaders or ways to organize strategies. MAG had this
I rarely run out of ammo, but it is because I play smaller modes and support... I like attrition as a concept and mechanic, but I don't see it working in BFV:
• The brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt spam class is not affected by the ammo at all.
• Sniper class is also not really affected: low RoF, and you can always walk to the ammo cache in the complete safety.
Attrition punishes players who dive-into the action: limiting their ammo capacity and heath-regen. Same for the tanks: the campy shitters who stay behind are rewarded with better ammo and repair options than the tanks who dive into the objectives.
Don't know how to fix it, kind of DICE screwed up by pushing the half-baked game, while at the same time applying massive changes to attrition between Open-Beta and Release.
^That's all spot on. Hardline let you run up and hump a support for ammo if I recall. It helped. The BF playerbase is a huge problem. Not just that they suck... it's just a franchise that draws in a lot of players with a casual mindset. They'll kick back and snipe while watching the 32v32 chaos unfold for ambiance. It's also kind of hard to care about playing hard when you're in a lobby where you know your team is going to lose. Or even when you know they're going to win.
Every once in a while I can get some kind of 'strategy' going with text chat... god help console players in that regard. All the squad/class mechanics could probably use a complete reboot not just for BFV but for the whole franchise in my opinion. I'm sure that could be improved. I don't know if a 32v32 game can really ever be done in a way where it will feel competitive in the way the Siege and Overwatch do though.
They can improve the number of games where you feel like you have the opportunity to make a difference in the outcome though. Team balancing could at least... exist. I know it's an uphill battle with the rates that people quit out of games. But I think everyone agrees they could do better.
And class abilities, and 'teamwork' bonuses (e.g. my potato aim buddy is happy to be full time repair guy on the back of my Tiger soooo I guess I win every tank battle with my infinite health) need to be reworked in a way where being organized doesn't give you that huge of an advantage. Being able to grab health/ammo from your teammates is a start. Squad spawning needs to be redone/done away with. Maybe the spawn beacon should be the only way to spawn outside control points, and it becomes a gadget given to the squad leader only rather than scouts. And squad leader automatically goes to the player with the highest career score/experience unless he relinquishes it.
I bought Squad a while back but never played it. I know that game has the benefit of attracting a different kind of player. I wonder if they made the large scale combat game actually work and I'm just stupidly spitballing half-assed solutions to problems that they've already solved. I need to give that game an 8 hour chunk of my time one of these days.
Every once in a while I can get some kind of 'strategy' going with text chat... god help console players in that regard. All the squad/class mechanics could probably use a complete reboot not just for BFV but for the whole franchise in my opinion. I'm sure that could be improved. I don't know if a 32v32 game can really ever be done in a way where it will feel competitive in the way the Siege and Overwatch do though.
They can improve the number of games where you feel like you have the opportunity to make a difference in the outcome though. Team balancing could at least... exist. I know it's an uphill battle with the rates that people quit out of games. But I think everyone agrees they could do better.
And class abilities, and 'teamwork' bonuses (e.g. my potato aim buddy is happy to be full time repair guy on the back of my Tiger soooo I guess I win every tank battle with my infinite health) need to be reworked in a way where being organized doesn't give you that huge of an advantage. Being able to grab health/ammo from your teammates is a start. Squad spawning needs to be redone/done away with. Maybe the spawn beacon should be the only way to spawn outside control points, and it becomes a gadget given to the squad leader only rather than scouts. And squad leader automatically goes to the player with the highest career score/experience unless he relinquishes it.
I bought Squad a while back but never played it. I know that game has the benefit of attracting a different kind of player. I wonder if they made the large scale combat game actually work and I'm just stupidly spitballing half-assed solutions to problems that they've already solved. I need to give that game an 8 hour chunk of my time one of these days.
Eh, it could be fun or it could be disastrous. They should at least try it out through a CTE.
I like attrition as it pertains to vehicles, however, when it comes to infantry it's bad. It's the reason why class balance is so fucked up. Overall, all it does is reinforce the passive meta this game has been since launch.
So after playing for a couple of hours just grinding ToW XP I decided to try Combined Arms. I know. It's not good. Just wanted to see for myself. It filled up the Kill 3 Vehicles in a round bar which I was just going to do in 10 minutes of flying a plane once I got back to Conquest but anyway.... so it filled up and completed the Assignment, then the Summary screen said something about Couldn't Fetch Report using ID 0 or some such shit... my ToW Assignment has completely disappeared...
AND I DIDN'T GET THE FUCKING 30,000XP FROM IT. Restarted the game, didn't help.
Complete and utter trash. Just. Why?
Edit: Also... my last multiplayer game... I earned 26k XP or so. 17.6k applied to Tides of War. What the fuck are the rules?
AND I DIDN'T GET THE FUCKING 30,000XP FROM IT. Restarted the game, didn't help.
Complete and utter trash. Just. Why?
Edit: Also... my last multiplayer game... I earned 26k XP or so. 17.6k applied to Tides of War. What the fuck are the rules?
A guy on Reddit posted all the archetypes the game was going to launch with:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/b1rh4n/battlefield_v_history_all_10_archetypes_sub/
It's pretty interesting that they almost went back to the more clearly defined classes the Refractor games had, and then pulled back to the free-form loadouts we've had for the last few games. Shows just how much more "classic" the game was before the beta.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/b1rh4n/battlefield_v_history_all_10_archetypes_sub/
It's pretty interesting that they almost went back to the more clearly defined classes the Refractor games had, and then pulled back to the free-form loadouts we've had for the last few games. Shows just how much more "classic" the game was before the beta.
Explosive spam was certainly a problem in previous games, but mot nearly as big a problem as players camping and ignoring the objectives. Attrition has definitely killed the explosive spam (unless you're on a flag and bombers is this weeks flying meta), but made the camping and ignoring the objective problem very much worse.
Squad is fun, but it's a bit too milsim-y for me. At the time I played it (which was a while ago mind) there really wasn't much vehicle play either, APCs were about as far as it went.
The old Battlefield games were great because they had a more deliberate pace than the typical shooter without being inaccessibly hardcore. Nowadays if you want a Battlefield game, your choices are basically super-fast infantry shootbangers like BF4 (every BF clone these days aims for BF4), an infantry milsim like Squad, or a game with all vehicles and no infantry like War Thunder. There's not any game that plays like BF2 anymore and it makes me sad.
I am 100% convinced that all Search and Destroy-type mission would be won if there was someone organizing the tactics. Even if there was a counterpart on the defending team, you cannot mobilize against the co-ordinated assault in time.
Panzerstorm Airborn is the crazy map where 25vs25 will fight for the A-B points, while C-D will be ghosttowns. If you channel 25 players into the objective which isn't filled with 25 red-dots, you simply brute-force the enemy.
The inability to coordinate anything regarding COMBINED ARMS gameplay approach is why BF is a laughing stock when it comes to the competitive side, which is exactly why so many players are interested in games like LoL, CSGO or even COD. I have long accepted that I am just a soldier in the battle where my actions don't matter, and nobody is interested in anything but fragging. The game has a lot of mechanics built around communication and teamplay, but they are impossible to utilize.
You have fighter planes, recon planes, bombers, smoke barrages, breakthrough tanks, tank destroyers, bridge-builders, mechanics, spotters, transport AND NOBODY WILL EVER TALK TO EACH OTHER.
Commander: everyone, SMOKE AND RUSH A, Takeshi castle
Everyone:
Panzerstorm Airborn is the crazy map where 25vs25 will fight for the A-B points, while C-D will be ghosttowns. If you channel 25 players into the objective which isn't filled with 25 red-dots, you simply brute-force the enemy.
The inability to coordinate anything regarding COMBINED ARMS gameplay approach is why BF is a laughing stock when it comes to the competitive side, which is exactly why so many players are interested in games like LoL, CSGO or even COD. I have long accepted that I am just a soldier in the battle where my actions don't matter, and nobody is interested in anything but fragging. The game has a lot of mechanics built around communication and teamplay, but they are impossible to utilize.
You have fighter planes, recon planes, bombers, smoke barrages, breakthrough tanks, tank destroyers, bridge-builders, mechanics, spotters, transport AND NOBODY WILL EVER TALK TO EACH OTHER.
Commander: everyone, SMOKE AND RUSH A, Takeshi castle
Everyone:
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I use a lot the chat in the game. "This point is empty", "They're flaking though that point", "Use smoke and push", etc. Though most people use it to rant, troll or joke. I imagine this is a bigger problem in consoles since in practice there isn't a chat.
In regards to attrtition, I've always liked it more as it was in the Beta. Way less camping since you actually had to scavenge, but you had to complain too much about "limiting muh skill" huh?
I've said about having an "Attrition Conquest" mode with the beta settings, but I don't think we're read too much except for Elenarie here.
I haven't made a Reddit account so I think my idea is DOA
In regards to attrtition, I've always liked it more as it was in the Beta. Way less camping since you actually had to scavenge, but you had to complain too much about "limiting muh skill" huh?
I've said about having an "Attrition Conquest" mode with the beta settings, but I don't think we're read too much except for Elenarie here.
I haven't made a Reddit account so I think my idea is DOA
The only time I ever used chat was just to say lol after I got killed by a hacker.
The chat is just dumpster fire garbage. I lose nothing of value by having it off.
The chat is just dumpster fire garbage. I lose nothing of value by having it off.
My chat usage is usually just letters. To try to warn of iminent arriving of enemies on a point. I'm not sure anybody gives a fuck.
Something cool wood be a ping system like Apex to people around you, but not just your squad. I mean, even the simple ping that we have currently should propagate to those around you. Limiting it to the squad is almost useless most of the time.
Something cool wood be a ping system like Apex to people around you, but not just your squad. I mean, even the simple ping that we have currently should propagate to those around you. Limiting it to the squad is almost useless most of the time.
Absolutely disgusting.
Though I've noticed that in US servers at least people talk more, but less useful things.
In Latam we speak less, and also we have to try to understand between spanish and portuguese. In any case, I at least try to be useful, and I notice that people tend to follow these suggestions or try to give their own. I strongly suggest everyone to just give orders. Who gives a fuck if not everyone follows them, you lose nothing for trying
I like how whenever I am trying to type something into chat the game UI will furiously remove the chat box to show me some garbage. And half the time I'll still be able to invisibly finish typing, and the other half it just disappears everything I was trying to say. Hey DICE, you realize I can still see all the rest of the garbage behind the tiny transparent chat window right? Like, let me finish my thought... The chat should just stay in front of everything else until I dismiss it.
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Hopefully they are just porting the heavy water plant from single player to give folks a proper meat grinder map.
Yup 90 horizontal here too, same that I used in BF1.
I'm going to say an Operation Locker type map.
With BFV gameplay... damn.... those tommy guns are going to be wlld
In regards to Norway, white and text.... DICE, I know people stopped complaining about this but text is still hard to read, even with full shadows
I keep thinking about what this game would look/play like if there were Pacific Maps. A Battle Midway, Coral Sea, etc. with tons of planes and ships everywhere would be incredible. There are so many areas of WW2 this game will probably not see realized :\, like DICE said they wanted 'lesser known' stuff but didn't capitalize on the Finnish War either so yeah. That's more morning pessimism thoughts :).
I've been taking a short break from the game while I work on building my new personal office space and a new computer to boot (2700X+2080Ti). Excited to see this game on maximum graphics. Frostbyte scales surprisingly well to low-end hardware too as I had been using my older Intel i7 3820 + 1060 PC since this game released.
I've been taking a short break from the game while I work on building my new personal office space and a new computer to boot (2700X+2080Ti). Excited to see this game on maximum graphics. Frostbyte scales surprisingly well to low-end hardware too as I had been using my older Intel i7 3820 + 1060 PC since this game released.
I want full playable ships, like in BF 1942. However, I doubt they'll ever come back. Probably have too many players just beaching them or ramming each other. lol
Gotta reuse those assets baby!
At this point I'll take anything they throw our way, map wise. Just as long it's something new.
And I hope they realize people play the smaller modes too and it would be nice to see some new maps for those as well.
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85, I think. Was 90 in BF1 but thanks to visibility issues in BF5, had to scale down.
Chat is fun, especially if it manages to balance the fine line between memes, banter and toxicity. As far as tactics and strategy, the chat is useless.
These embedded scheduled videos are bad. They look like an actual video, until you click on them and get the timer... I knew it wasn't today, but I still clicked based on the impulse...
Patch is supposed to launch tomorrow, and the notes today, but when they announced it it was marked as "TBD: Pending Certification" so it's possible it's going to be delayed
Roadmap is in the same spot, scheduled to release this friday, but it need the greenlight from legal and financial teams.
It seems that releasing these things close to the end of Fiscal year isn't a good idea, they are all afraid that a mistake will tank shares
So we aren't getting the new map this month. I had a feeling this was going to happen since they haven't said anything about it.
Recoil isn't going to do anything. It's the 3x scope that's the issue. CQC you can spec for hipfire and then you just destroy everything else at mid and long range because of the 3x scope.
So I'm jumping back in for the first time since...December? i think, and trying to catch up on news/info. Have they said anything about what is coming up after the Firestorm stuff yet? The only road map of sorts I remember seeing stopped at March.
(sorry if this has been asked a bunch)
(sorry if this has been asked a bunch)
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There should be a new roadmap and it should cover up to 6 months on Friday I believe.
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