No, they should have a automatic anti cheat system like may others have. like them had in BF1 for example. (I think)
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At least read the link duder. They have *gasp* the same system they've iterated on for a long time. Lazy devs isn't as much of an issue as lazy players/readers.
Had to of course take a closer look at the cited screenshot above. Seems to be a couple above average blokes with decent aim? At a quick glance nothing about their stats are irregular, including accuracy, weapon use, and headshot ratio. If you have above 20% accuracy on automatics you're going to cause a headache for the average scrub. There'd be nothing clear cut in this instance apart from they themselves leaning into probably false accusations in a pub server. Apart from score they're on or below the very human level of jackfrags, heck even I have a higher k/d than one of them. How can you be sure that they were in-fact cheating?elenarie
Is DICE going to do anything about the hackers in this game? 2 blatant hackers aimbotting, 2-boxxing, wallhacking with no regards, then openly gloating about it saying "DICE and EA will do nothing" while following me and my friend to different servers when I called them out. I regret buying the special edition and I regret buying skins to support DICE. All this talk about better cheat control from BF1 to BFV and it is as bad as it has always been.
That lord_vile92 on the other hand has close to 99% headshot accuracy with rifles and sub 20% on everything else and is most definetly a cheater.
As someone who thoroughly enjoys using SMGs, I'm still in the camp that a large part of the problem is the map design. Battlefield V's maps have minimal topographical variances, diminished cover, poor design pathing, and in particular how all of these things relate to the placement of capture points. They've gone for the open terrain sandbox-like approach and neglected to build maps with topographical complexities that force players to keep moving in order to push capture points and sight targets.
These large, open, flattish maps with poorly thought out capture point locations create a situation where ranged attackers, particularly snipers, have a tremendously wide view of multiple capture points and locations and often in 360 degrees. You can sight and begin attacking opponents from very, very far away from an enormous breadth of playspace on majority of the maps, and it's why there's an ongoing frustration with high powered rifles, assault weapons, and MMGs that can exploit range.
Aerodrome, Hamada, Narvik, and Twisted Steel have this problem. There's no sense of flow or accomplishment in moving through the maps because your potential target radius is almost always fucking everywhere from any distance.
Rotterdam survives this somewhat because of its urban nature. Devastation is about the only map that does not have this problem because it's so cluttered and twisted and most of the capture points are in interiors.
Fjell has not quite the same problem, but still favours long range entaglements on a number of capture points.
Arras had potential to be a great map as its topographical variances and asset distribution make for really interesting capture point layouts, but it's so fucking small that none of this matters as there's again no sensation or thrill in moving up and capturing points since it takes all of 5 seconds to run to the next one.
Mercury has a similar problem to Arras but its bottleneck-like layout helps change this somewhat (basically flank around the coast or it's a fight for C).
Panzerstorm is the only map that survives this problem because it's so fucking large that the spacing between capture points is inherently challenging for long range sniping. It's still a map that greatly favours long range gunplay but with this focus it works well.
I love a lot about Battlefield V but I still feel the direction was totally mangled and noncommittal to any particular vision. Like it's this weird inbetween of hardcore military sim and classic arcade Battlefield, but because it can't find a comfortable middleground you end up with this chaotic arcade mess of shooting in maps that see you getting shot from miles away at every angle, and weapon balance that hugely favours extreme rate of fight and range. Because DICE backed out on attrition the value of teamwork in a push and the threat of running out of ammunition are non-existent; you'll NEVER see a team retreat back in favour of a successful push because they need to resupply, and you'll never see a clever squad managing ammunition to burn out another team's defence. You instead end up with walls of players playing shooty shooty bang bang from miles away as the rest of us try and push through.
Sometimes I think I'm talking shit with the map design criticism, but I go back and look at the roster of maps for Battlefield 3, 4, and 1 and for most part the problems weren't anywhere near as prevalent. And 1 had the easiest sniping in the series.
I agree with a lot of your points and would only add that the availability of scopes magnifies the map-issues. I also mainly run medic but I never ever put anything other than a reflex sight on a weapon. When I pick up assault-rifles from the ground like 90% of them has a 3x attached. Smokes can do a lot to shut down most snipers but you can only do so much when 3/4 classes can take pot-shots at you from almost anywhere. Narvik is by far the most frustrating map and it is my belief that it is because almost every range is suited to a 3x. A, A to B, B to D, A to C, C to D and F. If you're running anywhere apart from C-E with a SMG you'll have someone scoping in on you. It's a chore.
I do feel that Twisted Steel and Hamada are mostly OK to great, though there are areas you will avoid and sometimes the detail levels are sketchy on Twisted Steel.
I do feel that Twisted Steel and Hamada are mostly OK to great, though there are areas you will avoid and sometimes the detail levels are sketchy on Twisted Steel.
Free speech.
You are one the reasons devs/publishers keep doing whatever they want with our money. Let's forgive them everything right? That's how they get better. Right.
So they have a system, but it doesn't work is that it? I remember in BF1 seeing system messages with people getting banned.
Sorry as I didn't read the link. But excuse me for paying full price for a game with so many problems, and you still want me to send them flowers. Ok
So if things don't go the way you like it's because the devs are lazy?
Sure thing buddy!
I would like an explanation how PC version has no anti-cheat, and the cheaters rampage for weeks without penalties. Now BFV is part of the EA sub, it is 7 free days + €4/month for a new account to play BFV.
So you were in my game where they were snapping to players, shooting to the side of them and still getting headshots? One of them walked into the library on Rotterdam, shot right, 180 snapped to a guy in the corner, then locked on and followed a guy behind a wall who was not even moving. You did not see the lock ons, you did not see the wallhacks and you did not see them OPENLY ADMITTING TO CHEATING.
Well this was them... that game I think?:
... and this was you:
Maybe you had bad ping?
You will get no argument from me there. This is the first game where I consistently avoid certain maps. Some of the others I'll play but I get very little enjoyment. not enough cover let alone permanent cover.
Is there a good video review on the current state of the game that isn't just an alt-right bitch fest about how DICE gave into the SJWs and ruined the series?
The game is in a good state minus crappy matchmaking and no anti-cheat.
Just download it from EA Access and try it for yourself.
I forgot that EA Access was a thing. Might as well try it.
I'll play this game so damn much if they do the pacific theater right.
Everything they've shown so far looks great in terms of future content.
Everything they've shown so far looks great in terms of future content.
No, but they said that long time fans would be very happy which makes me think at least one of them will be Wake Island.
It better fucking be Wake Island.
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They are addressing all the issues we have, so it looks promising. The first six months were a hell of a ride. However, by the end of the year, the game should be in a good state. A lot of maps, weapons, vehicles, four factions, and a revamped progression system. I can finally say, I'm excited for the future of BF V.
If the rumors are true that Bad Company 3 is slated for Fall 2020 it'll be unveiled this time next year, does DICE really plan to support V past that point?
BC 3 is supposed to be next gen. Not everyone is just going to dump their current gen consoles for the next. I see them supporting it through 2020 and 2021. Also BC has always been a spin off and not a mainline title.
You're unbelievable dude. Are you really blaming me for this? I went into spectator mode with a friend and well both watched on a round of Panzer storm. They were shooting in the air and snapping to players at 90 to 180 degree angles. Multiple people called them out on it. You do realize they can dial it back to make them not look like they're hacking for a few games? It's funny when both accounts stop at the exact same time to stare at the ground and adjust cheats.
Please explain, in great detail how a player can
1) Lock onto someone behind a wall from 100m
2) Follow their head exactly where they are going while they are bunny hopping behind said wall
3) In 0.03ms shoot that player in the head that they tracked down to the pixel every adjustment and jump they did behind said wall.
4) In what world is 15-30 ping bad? I live 20km from the server.
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This is the only shooter where players defend cheaters. It's really weird. Any of shooter they are humiliated.
The title sounded very promising, but reading the article, especially the last paragraph, made me a bit less positive:
That sounds to me that the suits at EA haven't yet committed to game beyond chapter 5.
But we'll see I guess, he content coming out this year is more than I hoped for anyway.
lol, he's obviously messing with you, don't bite
Didn't they add it back in temporarily with the Mercury small mode playlist? It rotates Domination/TDM/Frontlines. Or is that already out again?
Now is definitely a great time to pick it up. Firestorm is a lot of fun, and the other side of multiplayer is starting to receive tons of new stuff.
In case any other console players here have been frustrated with tanks/transports being uncontrollable, if you switch the vehicle control scheme to Veteran (I think) where forward and reverse are mapped to the triggers instead of the sticks, the problem goes away. On default settings, vehicles would swing wildly to the side without even touching the sticks, but now they're properly grounded. Running as a tanker is much more viable now for me.
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true I def get where you are coming from. I just copy and paste the title :p
For deluxe edition? Nah it's prob better to just get the regular edition. But I think bfv is coming to the ea pass membership as well. So that's something to consider lax
Everytime I start up a Conquest game, its Hamada 75% of the time. Really annoying
It is. Just only want Frontlines.
It is. Just only want Frontlines.
I look at it as them providing enough content that people will consider buying the next game, I don't think there's a real chance of turning this one around.
The population is already low on a few of the game modes, the UK and Ohio servers are gone, end of round balance seems impossible for some reason, Deluxe purchasers are still annoyed with what they got, PC players believe that the game is cheat infested and the new players coming in through EA and Origin Access are going to struggle to get to grips with the visibility and TTD.
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There isnt even a population count site like previous bf T_T
Another pleasant round today, with a cheater called chris171816, 100 ping, with an amazing aimbot spraying everyone.
What an amazing experience this game provides, I'm so happy I have spent 69€ for a game that gives me this kind of joy.
No worries, he will came back tomorrow.
I always select maps from the custom server list I have created. That way, I never have to play hamada or fjell thank goodness.
43 to 8 isn't an unrealistic score. Just looks like a good round. I have rounds like that.
Another pleasant round today, with a cheater called chris171816, 100 ping, with an amazing aimbot spraying everyone.
What an amazing experience this game provides, I'm so happy I have spent 69€ for a game that gives me this kind of joy.
No worries, he will came back tomorrow.
Of course is lot unrealistic, I can do it too, but it's not the case, guy was cheating and even his team was reporting him. And for the record that was not the finale score.
They updated the Roadmap
They mention that there will be 3 Pacific Maps, including Iwo Jima, out before 2020, with at least 7 new weapons of the front before 2020, with new vehicles including boats.
This would mean that starting in October, we could have one map per month
They mention that there will be 3 Pacific Maps, including Iwo Jima, out before 2020, with at least 7 new weapons of the front before 2020, with new vehicles including boats.
This would mean that starting in October, we could have one map per month
It is an exceptionally average round statistically for a good player but based on his overall stats his most recent non-firestorm game reports are a bit suspect. He's barely maintaining a 1K/D overall but now seems to be pulling double to triple that every round. Even without seeing him play I would say there's reason to suspect he might have recently acquired cheats, though if so he's not that good with them since you'll typically see scores like 90-3 when someone is blatantly aimbotting lol.
edit: What are the odds of a 1.39 KDer going 19-0 with 16 headshots with the revolver in 3 minutes and 50 seconds? Hah.
edit2: 52 STG kills, 31 headshots.
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Yeah that's the good old TTD (time to die) bug/issue. Receiving all your damage in one packet like that really sucks. Even worse is when it happens when you have been behind cover for a half second too. The doing more than 100 damage thing I hope is just the game displaying more damage than you're actually dealing because it happens multiple times every match. I've yet to bother counting landed bullets since I've just been assuming it's a display error so I actually don't know either way though. I wonder if someone less lazy than I has done thorough tests on this.
I can understand the more the 100 damage if they manage to slip in a heal while I am reloading during certain engagements. But ya, that kind of engagement doesn't happen nearly as often as the game shows me 100+ hits.
That's what makes detecting cheaters harder in this game. One, they'll use cheats but they toggle it, so every game isn't amazing. They just look like an average player that has good matches every now and then. Two, they do a good job hiding it in game. Or three, they are so bad that when they do cheat nobody notices.
People expect cheaters to go 88-4 every game before you can report them. Most of them aren't that stupid and are going to try to cover it up in someway. To find a cheater. You need to spectate them and go through their stats because you can't base it off one match because they can just toggle.
This is why the game needs ant-cheat software, or another implementation capable of detecting/restricting cheating automatically. Eliminating half of the cheaters without manually spectating full games would be great. We had punkbuster taking screenshots, right? Other game anti-cheat will scan your system's processes like the antivirus software, but looking for scripting/hacking software. VAC will check against modifications to the game files and processes. There are also ways to restrict the injection hacks from accessing the in-game information. Client and server side information can restrict cheaters from being able to access data outside of their client.
If you played Firestorm while it was alive, it was pretty common to have the ghosts of other players visible because someone on the server was using the wallhack...
Looking at his firestorm stats pretty much 100% confirms he cheats. 20 kills, 16 headshots. From a player with his scrub-ass stats. Seems legit. His headshot rate is absolutely comical in general, it's beyond that of "pros".
Yeah this is different than when people get a few points of healing in for sure. I've mag dumped FG-42's and had 180+ damage show up on enemies in the open with nobody behind them before dying to them myself. You can't heal that quick.
amen.
Another round, another cheater.
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guy wasn't even trying to hide it.
Cmon all, lets give props to DICE for this. What an amazing experience. :)
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