I reinstalled 1 week ago after 2 month break, WTF was i thinking? game so damn buggy gonna hit that uninstall button again..
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Battlefield V |OT| Band of Brothers and Sisters
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It's tempting to compare it to BF4 but at least BF4 got better over time. This is just getting worse!
It's amazing how well BF 1 runs. It looks and runs great. Plus the servers are also top notch. BF V is a buggy laggy mess compared to it.
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Makes you wonder what happen in the development process. And speculate about the rumors that bfv got pushed out a year early because bc3 got a deal or whatever for next gen consoles.
It's fine. More than enough people playing to find full servers.
It feels like every other time I launch this game it needs to review 30-32 GB of data then download a 3GB update. My heart goes out to those with datacaps, a > 100 Mbps connections, or a HDD.
Mine never did. Ever.
Mine never did. Ever.
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I swear that either everyone in battlefield has become Shroud or cheating is starting to get very rampant. I had multiple games all weekend with guys running around with auto-shotguns using the slugs and doming people the instant they see them or sitting at the back of the map going 50+ and a couple deaths lasering people with MGs. If it's not that then its a teams with half of the guys clanned up on one side pub stomping the other team down 7 or 8 guys. Dice really needs to implement some auto-balancing or something.
this game is the worst ive ever seen it. first time playing in a couple months and its as bad as launch state BF4 minus the crashing. server rubberbanding, nonexistent hit detection. being shot at by people i cant even see etc.
I definitely don't have the nightmarish experience others make out. I still enjoy playing the game somewhat. It's just a mess in some way or another most of the time. I mean, it's bewildering really that DICE accidentally patched in an invisibility bug that still exists. It's not even uncommon.
Great looking and playing game that has mostly rock solid performance and netcode. It also has some technical details, like actual terrain deformation from explosions (functional!) and appropriate time and audio cues for ejected casings depending on fall length and surface (aesthetic!), that Battlefield V does not have. I'm absolutely certain Battlefield V's simplified solution to terrain deformation, to instead overlay a geometric impact spot that doesn't technically dig into the existing terrain, is because Frostbite has hit its limit and shit the bed with modern console ceilings.
Great looking and playing game that has mostly rock solid performance and netcode. It also has some technical details, like actual terrain deformation from explosions (functional!) and appropriate time and audio cues for ejected casings depending on fall length and surface (aesthetic!), that Battlefield V does not have. I'm absolutely certain Battlefield V's simplified solution to terrain deformation, to instead overlay a geometric impact spot that doesn't technically dig into the existing terrain, is because Frostbite has hit its limit and shit the bed with modern console ceilings.
Jesus Christ this game is a gift that keeps on giving. I think the casual nature of popping-in, running around, driving the tank, brrrrrrrrrrrt'ing the machine gun saving it from the mockery outside BFV communities.
When I played League ranked, slightly weird angle hitbox or a small stutter was "THIS GAME" moment, but playing BFV and having your halftrack vanish or seeing predator camo active is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So based on that footage, and my own experience of invisible players fully rendering once they're close to the player, my guess is they seriously broke something with the LOD rendering. Because those soldiers on the aircraft are rendered at absurdly low poly, and that'd fit the invisible players popping into existence when in proximity and the higher quality models are loaded in.
I dont experience that on xbox. The cheating via pc methods really makes it sound undesirable.
Yeah I was experiencing this on every third game yesterday. They look like the Predator with the light bending around their bodies. On top of that, the character models slide over the surfaces, and don't walk or run. Very strange indeed.
Yeah, I should specify that this is a PC problem. At least the cheating part, I don't know if the consoles are having the weird auto-balance problems.
Funny, I'm certain the terrain deformation was removed because it would run into conflict with the fortification system. What happens if I blow a hole in the ground where sandbags go? Floating sandbags? Fortification disabled? I could see using dynamite to completely troll people in the second instance.
Didn't think of this and that is likely the reason, or at very least a major factor. Only counter to that is that simulation of ground deformation does still take place, only it's a mound instead of a hole. The added terrain is real and interactive, so it too must collide with sandbags and whatnot.
BTW, this (and its affect on map design) is one of the reasons I've been unimpressed by the fortification system, and assume it'll be a gimmick that goes the way of levolution (or behemoths and elite classes) in the future.
Which is a shame because both would be worthwhile if used selectively and not crammed into every map.
Which is a shame because both would be worthwhile if used selectively and not crammed into every map.
I can't believe it's took me this wrong to realise it, but I KNEW there was something different with BFV compared to BF1 and other BF's in term of terrain deformation! Genuinely didn't realise till now it doesn't even have it haha. Firing rockets/explosives leaving no trenches/holes in the ground like prior games makes for a much more static and lifeless sandbox. Having the ground almost completely blown out by the end of the round in BF1 looked awesome and literally felt like an atmospheric war had just taken place.
I often play the TNT jeep with a friend to kill tanks, in the past 1-2 weeks I've seen huge disparity in the damage dealt. 3 TNT is often enough to oneshot a tank ( at least from behind ), yet I've seen on occasion 6 TNT ( 3 from both players ) only slightly damage a tank, just yesterday I've seen6 TNT only inflict 22 damage to a tank.
I think the fortification system makes a lot of sense but it would help if it was more intuitive. You can see experienced players starting to build up once a point is secured and capping, as this gives you more points. Destroyed enviroments are a plauge in battlefield that makes for an awful experience, rebuilding to provide cover as a map goes on is an improvement that I hope they can keep and improve upon. It also gives you something to do when defending with no enemies around. It's a logical addition to conquest.
Whenever I kill someone hammering the barricades, feelsbadman.
In the maps where the rotation is near constant, like Arras Conquest, whoever is building fortifications alone is helping the enemy team.
Just like the rest of BFV: good concept, unimpressive execution and terrible support.
In the maps where the rotation is near constant, like Arras Conquest, whoever is building fortifications alone is helping the enemy team.
Just like the rest of BFV: good concept, unimpressive execution and terrible support.
The only fortifications I'll build in Conquest are health/ammo/repair stations. Everything else is pointless because everyone just leaves to zerg the next closet point. Now Breakthrough is a different story. Those I'll build and rebuild.
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Arras - E church is the best area for attack and defence and can be heavily fortified. As infanty you want fortifications built to protect from tanks and snipers, any area that's barren is hell in infantry/vehicle balance. F trench is vital for the same reasons. B gets blown to hell instantly and needs to be rebuilt. A has great fortifications to not leave infantry in the open.
Most maps are like this and have very good support for fortifications. That they aid enemies more is a weak argument since you'll get them back on the merry-go-round. Point is maps don't turn into shit because of destructability, they are fun for the duration.
But oh no we need to have blind negative rage surrounding this game and not see how it's the best Battlefield to ever come out. :)
E point of Arras is the center, right? I am talking about every other point which is kind of a circle around it. Zergs just rotate in that circle.
Your barricades and sandbags are blown by a single tank shot or a bombing run. What is the configuration in Arras? 2 tanks 2 planes?
Conquest is too fast and dynamic for fortifications. Points chance owners within minutes, a complete Fortification with traps, sandbags and barricades takes more. Your team scatters point by point.
Fortifications work in Breakthrough because points don't chance owners: you either defend or lose. The entire team is concentrated and fairly static. There is a small window to build Fortifications, so why the hell not.
True, I mainly meant I'd take the time to rebuild them when they get destroyed. For instance, Panzerstorm Breakthrough is a map where I think fortifications are done right. It has a good selection of AT and MG emplacements to help the defenders and just an overall smart placement of fortifications around the map, they really add to the flow of the game. However, then you have something like Aerodrome and it's horrible. Defenders don't get a single MG or AT emplacement and the emplacements just look like they are randomly placed around.
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I did the trifecta last night. BF4, BF1, then BFV.
So awesome how after all these years BF4 still retains a steady user base (on Xbox One, anyway). Finding a match was quick and it's still very fun.
So awesome how after all these years BF4 still retains a steady user base (on Xbox One, anyway). Finding a match was quick and it's still very fun.
I tried going back to BF4 but for some reason I just cant. BF1 it's fine, but from V to 4 it's just too diferent
I like it too, specially on modes not called "Conquest".
I like it too, specially on modes not called "Conquest".
But they work on every other point as well, that's why I mentioned them! :)
I guess you learn the value of having a wall between you and the enemy when you main medic.
A single sandbag on a small field can make a tremendous difference. A tank shooting a sandbag is a moment of the tank not machinegunning you to hell, and afterwards it can be rebuilt.
And my main point, it helps counteract the map becoming a flat shitshow.
Fortifications change the dynamics of every conquest map. Think C on Rotterdam with the alleyways (or the whole of Rotterdam (E, D, A, B), the peaks on Fjell protected from snipers, the perches in the church of Devastation, the hangar on Aerodrome (and try putting a sandbag around the craters outside), the ruins on Hamada (D especially), the bridge on Twisted Steel. These are the things you notice when playing the game instead of complaining about cosmetics on internet forums.
Plenty of points can have a ton of destruction because of the fortification system without the level design going out the window when someone bombs it. It works in conquest and improves the experience.
There are two things that could be improved further however.
One is that it should be more obvious (somehow, without being obtrusive) where you can build. The "one tool to do it all"-design sucks, as you can start building a wall when you want to repair a tank. The second improvement would be to give the engineer "perk" to everyone, you can't have a builder class, anyone that wants to build should be encouraged to do so.
It's not intuitive enough as is, and as a result (as recent posts demonstrate), players fail to see the value and contribution of the system, even as it's working in every game since launch.
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DICE is on summer vacation until August.
I was playing this game daily until that last patch. Jeez it really fucked everything more than usual.
I was playing this game daily until that last patch. Jeez it really fucked everything more than usual.
There was a hot fix last week. I doubt we'll get anything until the next major patch.
It's really sad how they managed to turn the positive buzz they created with the new roadmap into the shitshow we've got now...
The game has had too many fundamental game flow breaking technical issues and design idiosyncrasies too frequently for this to be even in ballpark of being true for me irrespective of how many facets of the underlying game design I like.
Hard to hand wave criticism as "blind negative rage" when I'm fighting against invisible enemies, courtesy of the developer eight months post launch.
There is some kind of divine irony at play when we complain for months about visibility problem ( imho for good reason ), and pretty much a few weeks after it's finaly improved we get stuck for 2 weeks with characters with actual invisible bodies...
Lol so true. I'd rather have a hard time seeing players in the rubble than have the Predator run up invisible and tear my spine out.
Well, I'm going to play some BF1 today. I finally downloaded the 80 gigs.
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