Flat, bland topography, poor sense of flow between capture points on Conquest, weighted obnoxiously in favour of the USA on Breakthrough due to the swarming of tanks and bottlenecked capture point progression.
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Battlefield V |OT2| Empire of the Soon
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Flat, bland topography, poor sense of flow between capture points on Conquest, weighted obnoxiously in favour of the USA on Breakthrough due to the swarming of tanks and bottlenecked capture point progression.
Man, maybe you guys are looking at Wake through the darkened lens of 5.2 but I'll be damned if it isn't the best Conquest map in the game and likely the best iteration of the map in the series.
I really don't see the complaints about how it's too flat or that there is no flow between objectives. I don't get that complaint at all.
I really don't see the complaints about how it's too flat or that there is no flow between objectives. I don't get that complaint at all.
Well, you need things for everyone i guess. I'm an infantry player who prefer to play Conquest on Metro or Marita as the fights there are massive and not scattered around a bit empty map with not sense of frontline whatsoever.
And this Wake is the empitome of small skirmishes scattered around a huge map with no sense of frontline. So obviously, i hate it.
Breakthrough all the way.
And this Wake is the empitome of small skirmishes scattered around a huge map with no sense of frontline. So obviously, i hate it.
Breakthrough all the way.
Skill gap is completely destroyed.
Guns are all lasers now, combine that with the snap on aim assist.
Decent players are all turned into gods. I've never been so much insta deleted by people.
Just learning to control the recoil on the weapons and aiming was so good, guns felt powerful also.
The gunplay was the one thing that kept me coming back.. alas thats gone now to.
Guns are all lasers now, combine that with the snap on aim assist.
Decent players are all turned into gods. I've never been so much insta deleted by people.
Just learning to control the recoil on the weapons and aiming was so good, guns felt powerful also.
The gunplay was the one thing that kept me coming back.. alas thats gone now to.
My man.
It just flows so well, everyone has their own little playground for their niche. Even camping snipers if you're into that sort of sick thing.
Just awful.
The only thing in this game that isn't constantly boring is BT on Iwo Jima imo
Breakthrough on Wake Island is so hilariously weighted in favour of the Americans I have no idea how this passed QA.
If there only was an additional AT weapon previously planned for the Pacific Theatre release...
A couple of anti-tank kitted Zeroes make short work of the US tanks on Wake Breakthrough.
Sometimes they'll even pile up so you can kill two tanks in one pass.
Sometimes they'll even pile up so you can kill two tanks in one pass.
The first two sectors are impossible to hold but I've been in several games on defense where we stopped the americans in the third or fourth. I had a really good one last night were we lost the last point when they had less than 20 tickets left.
All they really need to do is tweak the number of tanks
I've been in a full hold on the hangar. So second sector i think ?
I personnally think the hardest sectors to defend are the first and the third.
The last sector should be easy if your team is not stupid. Alas, your teammates often seem to don't understand the concept of "defending an objective"..
I personnally think the hardest sectors to defend are the first and the third.
The last sector should be easy if your team is not stupid. Alas, your teammates often seem to don't understand the concept of "defending an objective"..
A big part of the problem with Wake is that when players get stomped on that first sector, they'll often react in a less than helpful way
(quit or snipe) and the whole house of cards falls down. I've won it on defence because enough players quit that we had a far better team on the final sector.
(quit or snipe) and the whole house of cards falls down. I've won it on defence because enough players quit that we had a far better team on the final sector.
A basic feature that has been in every other BATTLEFIELD game? No.
You do realize they didn't revert the TTK right? The TTK now is basically the same TTK that they tried to implement a year ago that everyone complained about... They basically took that change, bumped it up to 11 for 5.2, then when the community raged, they brought it back down to last years TTK change.
They finally got the TTK that they tried implementing last year.
I don't think the DICE developers are the ones behind the changes. Obviously they are making them, but it isn't their call (I would hope).
I find statements like this sort of problematic in the sense that a single person might just have won/lost a lot of games on some map or mode by chance instead of it being a balancing issue. For example, I haven't even seen the last Breakthrough sector yet because the Americans have lost every single BT match I have played on Wake Island. You might very well be correct, but someone with actual data and not anecdotal evidence might get a better idea. Judging by DICE's actions since BF5's release, I'm not very confident that data will be put to good use though lol.
I am having the same issue with Wake Island that I had with all other maps since launch except for Iwo Jima and Pacific Storm: If they release just a single map, it becomes boring after a few rounds making me lose interest. Of course I like that the maps are free, even though we had to pay for it with immersion-breaking cosmetics, but the way they are drip feeding them actually makes me engage with the game less versus if they release a "pack" every few months. I would have guessed it to be the other way around if you had asked me before BF5's
I'm sure they have one, but that's certainly 64 Dice guys playing with comms as a real team/squad and PTFO ; this makes matches completely different from what you have in real life when you play solo or just with a few friends and a majority of randoms.
That's why CTE is important, because it gives data based on real people playing, not some kind of ideal situation that never happens in real lfe.
Yeah I got the 2nd and 3rd switched in my mind. Hangar is pretty defensible
I am gonna stop here with BF5.
Well played Dice (or whoever makes these dumb decisions). You just lost another faithful fan to...who exactly?
Well played Dice (or whoever makes these dumb decisions). You just lost another faithful fan to...who exactly?
Reading through some recent comments, I can't get a clear picture, but is this game worth diving into? I'm looking for a new multiplayer focused title and aside from Modern Warfare, this was the only other one to jump into my mind. Yay? Nay?
It was before the latest update, probably still is worth checking out if you can get it for cheap. They butchered the game's best feature though (it's gunplay).
It is, you can get the game cheap and have a lot of fun with it. People are mostly overreacting now that they've gone and undone the biggest fuck ups from the previous patch.
No... Get BF1 or BF4 if you're looking for a good BATTLEFIELD game.
They literally just completely revamped the Time To Kill and butchered the gun play over a year after releasing the game. This change was also made 2 weeks after having a "Free to Play" weekend, where people bought the game enjoying the old gameplay, then they changed it on them.
Yes, it's the best Battlefield game this generation (way better than BF4 and BF1), especially with the Pacific content.
Honestly, JP can win on Wake Island BT if you stall them on the last sector long enough. Especially if you took out all their tanks. However, it only works if your team isn't full of dumbasses who don't defend the point and choose to be a sniper outside the area.
Hachi wrecks in the last sector.
Hachi wrecks in the last sector.
Is this a serious comment? I honestly can't tell...
If you want more proof that it is a terrible idea to get it, just look how happy the fans are.
Why are there no bombers available on any of these pacific maps? The stock planes are worthless to start off with.
Maps like Wake and Iwo Jima would be balanced just a bit better with bomber coverage.
Maps like Wake and Iwo Jima would be balanced just a bit better with bomber coverage.
Damn serious. BF4 only got good after a year and BF1 was never good.
The planes double as bombers but you have to unlock them first. The incendiary bombs are amazing.
The unlock progression on the small planes seems to take FOREVER.
Open to suggestions to speed that part up.
SW: BF2 has been GREAT lately.
Starting out you just gotta get points where you can. Shoot at planes, boats, infantry. Just doing damage gives you points. Then go left-hand side for first 2 so u can get the explosive machine guns, the you can generally get a kill or 2 each pass on infantry before you gotta pull up and go back to base to repair. Look for people sitting on those stationary weapon batteries, they are easy pickings. Then as you go down, cross over to the flame bombs as those are easy to rack up points with. Spotting flares when you can get them too. Easy points to finish the upgrades.
And I think recently they re-added the feature where they damage enemy vehicles. I wish there was also a way to "de-construct" fortifications without spending explosives.
Yes, sorry, that's what happened--I sneaked up on a gun carrier on Aerodrome and taught it a lesson in respect.
I'm surprised there is no way to spend a good chunk of points to fully fortify a base instantly
I'm sad the fortress mode is not more common. It was so much fun, particularly when taking turns on attack/defend. I feel like each large map setting can support a couple of smaller fortress instances that can provide short active game times like squad conquest does.