BBC bans staff from attending LGBT Pride events (for fear it would make the organisation seem pro Trans rights)

PJV3

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Fuck the BBC and all the suddenly silent free speech fuckwits.
Hopefully it's nothing more than management flexing and they realise how fucking stupid it looks in 2020.
 

PJV3

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The BBC shouldn't be using terms like virtue signaling for a kick off, holy fuck just sell it to the Spectator as half of the staff seem to work there and Downing St.
 

timedesk

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Wow this is just blatant transphobia masquerading as neutrality. I have heard that the BBC is pretty conservative, but this is worse then I would have ever expected.
 

Kyuuji

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Hopefully it is a case of misconstruing new guidelines, it’s still sad though that it’s an entirely believable move with where the BBC is at these days.
 

Hagi

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when not taking a side is you actually taking a side

fucking BBC are a joke
 

Ravensmash

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I’m leaning towards bollocks based off a lot of tweets I’m seeing. Hopefully anyway.

especially that one from the head of newsgathering
 
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Really shitty

There's a certain standard of neutrality you need to stick to as a journalist... in your work (and even there showing both sides of an issue can mean legitimising idiots if there's no actual scrutiny)

What journalists do in their free time should be nobody's but their own business (unless they're say attending neo Nazi rallies)
 

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I wish I could be surprised.





So, so glad that I am effectively forced by law to fund this organisation and face heavy fines if I refuse to do so.
ALL BBC staff? Not just on people like presenters and newsreaders, but also possibly camera operators or sound engineers or rostering people or cleaners or anyone?
 

pizoxuat

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What's with the British and hating on trans folx? I mean, America is shit too with a lot of stuff, but CNN, MSNBC, or hell even FOX, would do this.
There's been some strong arguments made that because Britain's left has not been forced by a firey and righteous minority block to reckon more with the idea of intersectionality, it has been easier for TERFs and Lesbian Separatists to find common ground with Conservatives and Religious Nut Jobs in all agreeing that "at least we all hate this one group in particular so lets put aside our differences to squash them." Which then has turned the UK into a breeding ground for that kind of thought that then disseminates outwards and seeds itself in other areas where those alliances don't currently exist and creates more work for intersectional leftists to confront.
 

Feign

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We stand together.

Anyone in the community who thinks Trans issues are separate are 1. Scum, and 2. Kidding themselves. If part of us is being attacked, we all are. Let this be a reminder.

Utter trash.
 

Woylie

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“not taking a side” is picking the transphobes’ side, when one side is just trying to exist and one side is full of lying, hateful monsters
 

EntelechyFuff

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Really hoping this is not true. BBC (along with NPR) get a lot of heat these days, but I still trust them both more than any other news outlet pretty much.
 

Djalminha

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How is it not illegal to ban people from doing legal things in their own time? Corporations should not have this power, it means social progress is dependent on capital priorities.

Also, as for the BBC in this particular case, they can go fuck themselves real hard. I love their documentaries but I can live without them.
 
Nov 27, 2019
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The depths that transphobia has sunk its claws into the UK is just a source of never-ending heartache for me.

Imagine if Rowling were an advocate for basic fucking decency and not a bigoted piece of shit, where would things be then, I wonder...
 

jacktuar

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Isn’t it just that you can’t attend campaigns under an official capacity?

I strongly disagree with the BBC’s definition of impartiality. I see impartiality as being able to take stock of the facts, and be able to take the position that you know is free of bias because you’re impartial. The BBC thinks impartiality is just being cowardly and trying to sit things out.
 

Razmos

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Isn’t it just that you can’t attend campaigns under an official capacity?

I strongly disagree with the BBC’s definition of impartiality. I see impartiality as being able to take stock of the facts, and be able to take the position that you know is free of bias because you’re impartial. The BBC thinks impartiality is just being cowardly and trying to sit things out.
Doesn't make it any better even if it did.
Supporting basic human rights should not be seen as political, because doing so suggests that the other side are valid in their hatred.
 

Kyuuji

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Imagine if Rowling were an advocate for basic fucking decency and not a bigoted piece of shit, where would things be then, I wonder...
GRA reform would likely have passed for one, in addition to fewer trans children attempting suicide or self harming. Less legitimacy to fringe reactionaries and anti-trans groups too.
 

jacktuar

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Doesn't make it any better even if it did.
Supporting basic human rights should not be seen as political, because doing so suggests that the other side are valid in their hatred.
I absolutely agree. And the whole ‘virtue signalling’ angle shows it comes from an out of touch Tory cunt. Unfortunately there are more and more of them infiltrating the BBC.
 

Ravensmash

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Even if it's false, that it's believable is a major red flag. What does culture war even mean in this context? Having people being vocal about not supporting actions such as these is a good thing. Fuck propriety.
I read it as a culture war as in the right’s sustained attacks against it as being some woke haven - and how inaccurate or incomplete reporting may feed into that unnecessarily

a follow up tweet here


let’s hope for a formal clarification though

edit: although that seems odd in itself because I’m pretty sure I’ve seen BBC report from Pride in the past.

presumably (or hopefully) they mean that they can’t attend under the guise of the corporation - rather than being there in an official capacity

(Or claim to be representing the corporation when they’re not, which seems pretty standard...)

idk, let’s hope for clarification! Original article shocked me although it’s not very meaty in terms of reporting and it seems like a lot of conjecture
 
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KG

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These fucks are stupid enough not to see that when you are neutral, you are automatically choosing the side of the oppressor. Idiot. I'm sure one of the Bs in their company name stands for bigot.
 

TheTable

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If this is true, this makes me extremely anxious of representations (or the lack of, I guess) of trans people in British media. It was already going downhill but god.