BBC: Captain Sir Tom Moore has died from coronavirus.

Jan 27, 2019
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Captain Sir Tom Moore has died with coronavirus.
The 100-year-old, who raised almost £33m for the NHS, was taken to Bedford Hospital after requiring help with his breathing on Sunday.
His daughter Hannah Ingram-Moore said he had been treated for pneumonia over the past few weeks and last week tested positive for Covid-19.
The Army veteran won the nation's hearts by walking 100 laps of his garden before his 100th birthday.
RIP, Captain Tom, your contribution to the NHS will not be forgotten.
 

Temascos

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Oct 27, 2017
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Poor fellow, he did a good bit of fundraising for the NHS (The outrage is that it NEVER should have needed fundraising) and seemed like a good person.

Hopefully his family are able to give him a good send off.
 

Qikz

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RIP, it's sad that he had to do what he did to make people realise how badly the NHS needed funding and he did get turned into a way bigger martyr by the government than he needed to be if they'd just fund the NHS. Awful way to go.
 

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Absolute hero

edit: I don’t know what the rules are but he should get a full royal funeral
 
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Poor fellow, he did a good bit of fundraising for the NHS (The outrage is that it NEVER should have needed fundraising) and seemed like a good person.

Hopefully his family are able to give him a good send off.
It’s absolutely shameful that the NHS is being cut to the bone by the Tories that fundraising efforts such as his are necessary.
 

jelly

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Sad to see him go. Great way to raise money but sadly the government used him badly as cover for their woeful funding of the NHS etc.

RIP. Have a stroll wherever you are 😁
 

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It’s absolutely shameful that the NHS is being cut to the bone by the Tories that fundraising efforts such as his are necessary.
I agree that the Tories have chronically and purposely underfunded the NHS for over a decade.

However, it's important to point out that NHS Charities Together and the hospital charities who make up them are only allowed to provide for resources that are considered additional or supplementary to what the NHS core budget is supposed to provide for. Basically, NHS trusts aren't reliant on charity to fundamentally function or anything.

Still, we should be spending more on the NHS than we should do and far less on a myriad of terrible things the Tories are happy to spaff money up the wall for.
 

Humidex

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Oct 27, 2017
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The guy is a legitimate hero, I hope the posts about him recently traveling across the pond are unfounded. :(
He did. So did the family. It was all paid for.


(this was in early December before the current restrictions were put in place...)
 

Wallace Wells

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The holiday in the Bahamas? Word is that did happen. Yes it was wrong, but at the same time, it doesn’t undermine what he did for the NHS.
What do you mean “word is that it did happen”. He tweeted pictures of his family there and of him on the flight tagging British Airways in it

Its sad that he’s died but his family have been given special treatment to visit him in hospital while he has a deadly disease whilst other families have been denied this privilege and had to go through the knowledge that their family member has died alone in pain. What gives them the right to be given preferential treatment but us ‘commoners’ are not allowed to get. It’s gross

 
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What do you mean “word is that it did happen”. He tweeted pictures of his family there and of him on the flight tagging British Airways in it

Its sad that he’s died but his family have been given special treatment to visit him in hospital while he has a deadly disease whilst other families have been denied this privilege and had to go through the knowledge that their family member has died alone in pain. What gives them the right to be given preferential treatment but us ‘commoners’ are not allowed to get. It’s gross

True, if he had not risen to fame over the last year this would not be allowed.
 

fick

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What do you mean “word is that it did happen”. He tweeted pictures of his family there and of him on the flight tagging British Airways in it

Its sad that he’s died but his family have been given special treatment to visit him in hospital while he has a deadly disease whilst other families have been denied this privilege and had to go through the knowledge that their family member has died alone in pain. What gives them the right to be given preferential treatment but us ‘commoners’ are not allowed to get. It’s gross

I’d argue it wasn’t done for his family, it was done for him. It may not be right, but he did a lot of good. I’d rather he gets special treatment, if anyone gets it at all, over the rich and famous.
 

Vashetti

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Oct 27, 2017
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RIP to him.

His fundraising was wonderful (though shouldn't have been necessary), but everything since has been gross. No doubt the family around him enjoying the grift. They shouldn't have been allowed to go on holiday, and they shouldn't have been allowed in the hospital with him, if no other families can too with their ill/dying loved ones.

It should not be one rule for him and his family, and another for everyone else.
 

mere_immortal

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'd like to think rather than just parading him out as a hero for raising money for a government funded healthcare system the tories will actually make changes that would mean he shouldn't have had to do it in the first place, but of course that's not going to happen. RIP.
 

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Sad that he seems to have died in a manner that undermines the message he worked hard to spread.

And fuck the government for propping him up to hide their utterly catastrophic and deathly failings. Hope his family gain the privacy and respect they deserve at this dreadful time for them. I have no hope that his memory won't be tarnished, if not by his own choices, then by those out there more than willing to do so.
 

Simon21

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I agree that the Tories have chronically and purposely underfunded the NHS for over a decade.

However, it's important to point out that NHS Charities Together and the hospital charities who make up them are only allowed to provide for resources that are considered additional or supplementary to what the NHS core budget is supposed to provide for. Basically, NHS trusts aren't reliant on charity to fundamentally function or anything.

Still, we should be spending more on the NHS than we should do and far less on a myriad of terrible things the Tories are happy to spaff money up the wall for.
^^^

It's absolutely true that the Tories have been chronically underfunding the NHS, but NHS charities is funded separately to the core NHS organisation and the money is used for different things.
 

mjc

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What a hero for the fundraising he did, on top of his service. RIP.
 

Gawge

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I’d argue it wasn’t done for his family, it was done for him. It may not be right, but he did a lot of good. I’d rather he gets special treatment, if anyone gets it at all, over the rich and famous.
Just think it's important to note here, as in the other thread, that Barbados is not some private island for wealthy British tourists, people live there and are dealing with the pandemic themselves.

I don't know whether we should be discussing his holiday/breach in a thread of the man's death, but I don't think we should be talking about Barbados like real people don't live there.
 

Facism

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I'd like to think rather than just parading him out as a hero for raising money for a government funded healthcare system the tories will actually make changes that would mean he shouldn't have had to do it in the first place, but of course that's not going to happen. RIP.
nah they'll just leverage his death in some slimy propaganda PR shyte that praises his efforts and the NHS whilst everything else they do chokes the organisation into the ground
 

gozu

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A reminder that the virus doesn't care if you're a good or a bad person. And a reminder that there is no justice, because, otherwise, why did Trump survive HIS bout with covid? If anyone should've died, it should've been him.

RIP Sir Tom Moore.
 

Bobbetybob

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What do you mean “word is that it did happen”. He tweeted pictures of his family there and of him on the flight tagging British Airways in it

Its sad that he’s died but his family have been given special treatment to visit him in hospital while he has a deadly disease whilst other families have been denied this privilege and had to go through the knowledge that their family member has died alone in pain. What gives them the right to be given preferential treatment but us ‘commoners’ are not allowed to get. It’s gross

This is absolute nonsense, I was allowed to see my Dad right before he passed away and that was in November. If they think/know you're on your deathbed they have allowed small amounts of family to see patients.

Yes this has not been the case the whole way through and yes there will certainly still be cases where people aren't able to visit but it's not preferential treatment because of who he is.
 

fick

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Just think it's important to note here, as in the other thread, that Barbados is not some private island for wealthy British tourists, people live there and are dealing with the pandemic themselves.

I don't know whether we should be discussing his holiday/breach in a thread of the man's death, but I don't think we should be talking about Barbados like real people don't live there.
oh, I wasn’t mentioning the trip since I have nothing positive to say. Just meant his last days in the hospital.
 

Jam

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The holiday in the Bahamas? Word is that did happen. Yes it was wrong, but at the same time, it doesn’t undermine what he did for the NHS.
To be fair wasn’t travel allowed at the time, albeit not recommended to do so, and I know Barbados had a rigorous testing process before boarding, after landing, and in hotel quarantine and had no cases so I imagine Bahamas was the same.

Could be wrong on that, but I’m not going to begrudge him any joy in his last few months after his achievement.