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Progressive internet personality Cenk Uygur wants to take his trash-talking attitude to the halls of Congress, launching a bid for the California seat recently vacated by former Rep. Katie Hill (D-CA).

But activists in the district say Uygur will be dogged by the many inflammatory remarks he's made in the past about women and minority groups—and they fear his controversial reputation could squander Democrats' chances to retain a hotly contested district.

Uygur has become a hero for some progressive Democrats as a co-founder of The Young Turks, a left-wing video site. But voters in California's 25th District may be less thrilled when they learn about many of Uygur's past remarks, which include calling women genetically "flawed" because not enough women wanted to sleep with him.

"You should know that misogyny and sexism is not OK, especially if he was a grown adult when he said these things," said John Casselberry Jr., a Democratic activist and planning commissioner in the district.

At least seven local or state Democratic groups, including the California National Organization for Women and the LGBT-focused Stonewall Democratic Club, have denounced Uygur's past remarks, with some calling for him to drop out of the race.

"We unequivocally condemn Uygur, and believe he has demonstrated that he is unfit for public office," California Women's List, a PAC, said in a statement.






Big yikes

Support Christy Smith for CA 25
 

GrizzleBoy

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The attacks (on someone who very likely holds mostly similar political views as his attackers) begin, then.
 

Volimar

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Are people going to address the concerns or just go after the OP?
 

pigeon

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Really very problematic. Hopefully Bernie will rescind his endorsement of this misogynistic genocide denier and spreader of Seth Rich conspiracy theories.
 
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I really don't know much about this guy, but I watched those videos and he clearly seems to be from a comedic lens. Is this show suppose to be 100% serious or is it like a comedy show.

The other comments from the article seem much worse than the videos but overall the guy has political views that are very in line with Bernie.
 
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I'd really prefer not to signal boost that twitter account. Read her tweets. She's incredibly disingenuous and has a "bitch eating crackers" attitude toward Bernie and his coalition.
 
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Cenk is an idiot and I doubt he wins. I'm okay with people bringing up his past words and putting him to account.

What I dont love is that the people who talk about unity when leftist voices are critical of their favoured candidates then turn around and do the exact same thing.
 

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Cenk puts his foot in his mouth and says dumb shit sometimes, but he seems like he has the right intentions.
 

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Why?

Christy Smith is a local who has won in the area before, doesn't have the problematic history of Cenk, and has good policy positions for a swing district.
 

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Is the OP really quoting Mendoza Ferrer? Like, THIS Mendoza Ferrer? Eeew.

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Bernie should stay away from this TYT guy, though.
 

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Why?

Christy Smith is a local who has won in the area before, doesn't have the problematic history of Cenk, and has good policy positions for a swing district.
Because Bernie loves supporting people who support him even when they're shitty people
 
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Basically:
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Cenk was in his 30s and 40s when he wrote incel-lite blog posts, spewed misogonisty takes on his "progressive" internet program, and continued denial of a genocide. I'm sad an abrupt about-face from some gross views and positions is enough for people to think he's a good spot for that seat, especially surrounding the circumstances of why that seat is even up for grabs.
 

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I am not sure why Bernie would pick this guy out of everyone else. Like damn, why this guy out of everyone else.

Also OP, why do you even follow this Twitter account? Just a simple look at her account gave me a headache.
 

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a) Don't back carpetbaggers, regardless of who they are. It hurts candidates bad in local elections.
b) Cenk sucks and Cenk running for the seat vacated due to Revenge Porn is not a good look
c) Bernie is once again showing a commitment to valuing loyalty above all other concerns and it's a gigantic pattern at this point that's a massive red flag regarding an ability to actually manage an executive office. This isn't a ideological politics thing - Hillary was also bad about this, but it manifested in different ways with her being unwilling to cut people loose.
 

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a) Don't back carpetbaggers, regardless of who they are. It hurts candidates bad in local elections.
b) Cenk sucks and Cenk running for the seat vacated due to Revenge Porn is not a good look
c) Bernie is once again showing a commitment to valuing loyalty above all other concerns and it's a gigantic pattern at this point that's a massive red flag regarding an ability to actually manage an executive office. This isn't a ideological politics thing - Hillary was also bad about this, but it manifested in different ways with her being unwilling to cut people loose.
Agreed with all this and Bernie is my #2 for the general/primary
 
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a) Don't back carpetbaggers, regardless of who they are. It hurts candidates bad in local elections.
b) Cenk sucks and Cenk running for the seat vacated due to Revenge Porn is not a good look
c) Bernie is once again showing a commitment to valuing loyalty above all other concerns and it's a gigantic pattern at this point that's a massive red flag regarding an ability to actually manage an executive office. This isn't a ideological politics thing - Hillary was also bad about this, but it manifested in different ways with her being unwilling to cut people loose.
100% agreed
 

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Cenk: women don't want to fuck as much as they should

people who are definitely not misogynists:
Sigh you guys are always on some weird shit. So quick to judge someone, knows nothing about them. Never educate always shame. Stop treating everyone as if they are the enemy.

Has Cenk addressed any of this or is he one of those people who don't apologize for comedy?



Didn't like the way it was starting out it all.
The interview I posted earlier addressed some of the controversies he's been involved in. I admit I'm not extremely versed in all the shit, but it seems genuine to me.
 

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Trying to focus on the actual topic and ignore the bad faith OP- Cenk is better on the issues than Christy Smith. His politics are much closer to Bernie's. But this seems to be more of a loyalty move, as TYT has given Sanders a platform pretty much nonstop for the last 4 years.

Cenk had renounced his previous sexist comments from 20 years ago, and his Armenian Genocide denial, more than once. For me, the denial of genocide is particularly beyond the pale, I don't care what kind of propaganda he was raised on in Turkey, and I didn't like his initial disavowal (too weak). I haven't followed TYT for a few years, but I think he spoke more about the subject and went into more detail? In the end it will be up to the voters of that district whether or not to take him at his word.
 

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Cenk says dumb shit all the time and while I think he took back the genocide denial I see no fucking way endorsing him can ever have a positive impact for Bernie.


How is your #1?
Warren ofc

Also I think it's bullshit that Hill had to resign anyway, it's 2019 people shouldn't have to resign over revenge porn. This shit is only gonna become more common in the future.
 

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I just remember Cenk for the genocide denial and his "apology" that never admitted he was incorrect
 

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Trying to focus on the actual topic and ignore the bad faith OP- Cenk is better on the issues than Christy Smith. His politics are much closer to Bernie's. But this seems to be more of a loyalty move, as TYT has given Sanders a platform pretty much nonstop for the last 4 years.

Cenk had renounced his previous sexist comments from 20 years ago, and his Armenian Genocide denial, more than once. For me, the denial of genocide is particularly beyond the pale, I don't care what kind of propaganda he was raised on in Turkey, and I didn't like his initial disavowal (too weak). I haven't followed TYT for a few years, but I think he spoke more about the subject and went into more detail? In the end it will be up to the voters of that district whether or not to take him at his word.

No he didn't go into more and no he never really apologized. He just said he'd do better and not discuss topics he's not qualified for.
 

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Really very problematic. Hopefully Bernie will rescind his endorsement of this misogynistic genocide denier and spreader of Seth Rich conspiracy theories.

Wether you love him or hate him, Cenk has acknowledged many times the mistakes he made in the past.

he has already publicly stated those remarks were wrong and apologized for them. Multiple times.
 

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Wether you love him or hate him, Cenk has acknowledged many times the mistakes he made in the past.

he has already publicly stated those remarks were wrong and apologized for them. Multiple times.

What has he done to make amends for them? Talk is cheap. And the Seth Rich stuff was three years ago. I don't remember seeing an apology for that!
 

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I support Cenk and TYT and am pleased to see Sanders give him his endorsement.
 

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Those are horrible videos you don't want out there if being in the public eye. Probably would sink your campaign in less recent times.
 

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What has he done to make amends for them? Talk is cheap. And the Seth Rich stuff was three years ago. I don't remember seeing an apology for that!

What else can someone do except publicly apologize and champion progressive ideals?

we're posting on an message board while he created the, arguably, biggest progressive internet news channel.

saying he's done nothing to repent is fox news level of denialism.
 
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