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Bernie Sanders endorsed TYT founder and carpetbagger Cenk Uygur in CA 25 Congressional Race (UP: Sanders retracts endorsement) [SEE STAFF POST]
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He literally defended his past misogynistic comments this week, and still supports Turkish groups that deny the Armenian Genocide.
Yeah, sure. Everybody is cancelled now. Nobody gets to hold a public office. Anarchy is the order of the day.
I'm not being sarcastic when I say this would be a positive development for the future of our society.
cant believe that sam seder got officially milkshake duck"d in ResetEra
Do your own damn homework and read what came before you or go on in ignorance.
He said a lot of shit as recent as 2016, 2012, and throughout while on his progressive show The Young Turks. Sexist and misogynistic things. And then in a very recent interview he defended those things. Those aren't "when he was a Republican" or whatever.
It's an interesting theory, but it's not explanatory enough. For one thing, you left out whiteness, but maybe you feel that's implied by bro. For another, though, "unsurprisingly" is doing kind of a lot of work here. I am surprised that these leftist media outlets are not run by feminists and people of color! Or, to put it another way, I am surprised that the leftists aren't uplifting the leftist media outlets that ARE run by feminists and people of color. They exist! Why are the white, male, anti-intersectional podcasts the popular ones? You write that as if the answer is obvious and not worth mentioning. I don't think it is.
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Looks like Sanders bent the knee to the twitter mob. Sad but not surprising.
To me this kind of crap is why I am having difficulty supporting Bernie in the primary despite a lot of my political beliefs lining up with his. He had terrible staff members and surrogates in 2016, and he continues to make unforced errors in his support of other people. The presidency is not one man. I would literally vote for a piece of toast if I felt like somehow it would lead by comittee to surround itself with the best people for the job and nothing less. We need good stewards of the executive bureaucracy, and congressmen/women. One of the fleeting reasons I might even vote for Biden over Bernie is at the moment he seems to be cultivating and even open to getting the best people in the office he can, and not the people who helped get him into his position. I don't want another trump with a yes man and loyalty streak.
Cenk is a terrible person for public office and as stated he should never have endorsed in the first place, while I'm glad he walked some of it back, it is still part of a long line of errors regarding people he seems willing elevate or surround himself with, its a pattern he needs to openly attend to because right now aside from whether its Trump vs Bernie, I would literally vote for just about anyone else (except Gabbard and Yang) in the current primary.
Cenk is a terrible person for public office and as stated he should never have endorsed in the first place, while I'm glad he walked some of it back, it is still part of a long line of errors regarding people he seems willing elevate or surround himself with, its a pattern he needs to openly attend to because right now aside from whether its Trump vs Bernie, I would literally vote for just about anyone else (except Gabbard and Yang) in the current primary.
It's sad he couldn't even vet a very public endorsement that crumbled in a day.
TYT ain't shit big surprise
Wild how they go all in on neoliberalism being the great evil and they're all capitalists iirc
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Videos of Cenk using the N word and saying awful shit about women and blogs about how women are inferior ARE ALL PART OF A NEOLIBERAL CONSPIRACY
Including an interview from a few days ago where he didn't apologize
They're the easiest to advertise, I think. They're more recognizably comfortable to the status quo, and the people involved were able to pour more of their own money in from the start, because they had that money.
Honestly pretty even compared to most of the other candidates to my understanding. If my biggest issue with a candidate's platform is their lack of vetting of minor staffers and endorsements which get corrected shortly after reports, I think that's a good sign for the health of a campaign.
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To those who are bashing Bernie and calling him off, who else is left that is worthwhile to vote for? Biden? (no) Warren? (she has no path to the nomination) Buttigieg? (zero black voter support)
Ahh yes, typical right wing messaging of *checks notes* calling out offensive language against women.
Garbage. The entire operation, just garbage.
Imagine harboring a turd like Cenk then stoking conspiracy theories when it blows up in your face. This is some Fox News-tier gaslighting, but then again it should't be a surprise coming from Seth Rich conspiracy theorists. Very disgusting how TYT tries to condition its viewers into running with conspiracy theories.
How does Warren have no path to the nomination? Why does it even matter if we think he's the best candidate, he's not above criticism and it should be doubly important if he's gonna be in a general election that he stops doing dumb shit.
Going really hard on the whole "locker room" talk territory
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Neolib establishment identity politics corporate shitlib conspiracy
Did I forget any of the buzzwords?
This isn't surprising at all. Also lol "20 years ago". The man defended most of his comments about women earlier this week.
I'm with you that candidates should recognize their mistakes and improve, but for the people who refuse to vote for him, then in terms of progressive policies, there is no one else that has a viable chance to be nominated. I don't see Warren able to do it. Her poll numbers are pretty bad. It's clear this is coming down to Biden or Bernie.
The Twitter mob that objected to an unekectable genocide denying misogynist carpetbagger trying to pull a TulsiStein Spoiler bomb in the most important election of our lives, or the Twitter mob that cheers on chaos in the Democratic primaries to urge on four more years of the erosion of American supremacy? Or is this another Star Wars precrime thread?
Why does Warren have no path to the nomination? It's way too early to suggest that.
Are you making a practicality argument? Isn't that...centrist!!!???
She's solidly third in pretty much all of the polls and there hasn't even been one state yet.
I'm not sure how much of it is loyalty — that's seems insccutate. My perspective is that these issues stem from a combination of conditions. Sanders absolutely is not embraced wholely by the traditional apparatus and system in US politics, so to say he operates on a relative political fring in the United States. To me this is a combination of a sub ideal environment for recruitment, Sanders himself generally being a good person that believes in people, and the inherent complexities and attention issues that come from campaigning for President. When your resource pool lays somewhat adjacent to the main stream it creates a minefield that isn't comparable to having a strictly 'in establishment' operation.
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Hoooooly shit.
See, everybody? This is what people who don't want him to win the nomination are talking about.
He can't even run a competent campaign. What makes you think he can run the country?
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Sanders team should do a better job w vetting, but logistically speaking their context makes these sorts of things a bit more likely to occur. Not that it's ok, it's not and they are right to then fire these people etc.
Franky though this is not at all indicative of Sanders and his team not being able to run a campaign. He's the second place candidate, leads in contributions, has well established infrastructure, has coordinated and held the largest rallies of any candidate, and has shown good outreach and course correction from the mistakes of 2016. He has one of the top 2 organizations in the primary.
Look at Harris for failure to run a campaign, or Bidens teams struggles with securing funding
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Aren't these leftist podcasts supported by leftists, not the status quo? Why don't the leftists support women and people of color?
No doubt it's a bungle. He should have either not endorsed in the first place, or been prepared to take on the heat that was going to come and take a proper stance along the lines of: "I'm going to support the candidate that ideologically aligns with me because I value policy over personality." Either way, he was clearly completely unprepared and it shows.
Some of the hires are on the campaign (which is indicative of Bernie yes but to a lesser extent) sure but this one is 100% Bernie. He was the one who put out both (bad) statements.
Hasan is Cenk's nephew who was hired at TYT when starting his career due to nepotism. It's basically obligatory for him to show support here.
I am not trying to say it's OK, just giving context for who he is and why he would defend Cenk here.
I suppose "vote for the guy who wants the planet to not be on fucking fire in a decade" is a practicality argument when you get down to it.
I don't really agree with this, to be honest, because it doesn't consider the cost to the person being hired. For Cenk it's whatever, he's going to be okay, but if you are a random guy making memes and Sanders plucks you out of the masses to hire you, exposes you to sudden scrutiny, and then dumps you immediately, your life just got pretty fucked up.
It's inappropriate to let the media do your vetting. It was bad when Trump did it and not great when Obama did it! It's bad for Sanders to do it too. Either vet them yourself or stand by them and make sure they at least get a soft landing. Otherwise it's just not fair to the people you're hanging out to dry.
Even leftists fall into comfortable biases. It's a problem endemic to basically anything media related, even leftist media. It's why "breadtube" is overwhelmingly white people.
Oh I agree that this instance is on Sanders. He put his name to it afterall. I just also wouldn't doubt that Sanders had only the faintest idea of any thing, relative to the true scope of the things that Cenk had said. If I had to guess, it would be thé issues (and answers to them as given by Cenk) that we're raised recently in an interview as those were the real 'public' ones of the time (the genocide issue and his writings). In this case it would be damning of his own people for not their job, and protecting Sanders by making him aware of the issues in scope.
Still I think the retraction is on Sanders, and weak, so no arguement there.
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