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I would say Warren has run a more incompetent campaign outside of those two months of glory she had and that Pete has the most competent campaign, but you are not ready for this conversation.
 

Seeya

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I don't really agree with this, to be honest, because it doesn't consider the cost to the person being hired. For Cenk it's whatever, he's going to be okay, but if you are a random guy making memes and Sanders plucks you out of the masses to hire you, exposes you to sudden scrutiny, and then dumps you immediately, your life just got pretty fucked up.

It's inappropriate to let the media do your vetting. It was bad when Trump did it and not great when Obama did it! It's bad for Sanders to do it too. Either vet them yourself or stand by them and make sure they at least get a soft landing. Otherwise it's just not fair to the people you're hanging out to dry.

I'm on my phone so my ramblings aren't as well constructed as they'd otherwise be. I may have miscommunicated because I 100% agree with you.

But the campaign shouldn't keep these people either if new information comes to light. The correct thing to do here is to be better about vetting your fucking people so that these situations do not happen.
 

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Weekend at Bernie's. You bring the "only candidate who makes sense" daiquiri, while I bring the flip flops.

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Baba Vanga must be happy with her bets.

(I would still vote for Bernie. No one is perfect, and demanding perfection is demanding godliness. Your other candidates will double down on such issues).
 

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🤦‍♀️the one upside to this is exposing Cenk and Ana as hack frauds
 
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He still volunteers and financially supports organizations that deny the Armenian genocide.


this picture is a little over a year after his "apology".


this is outside of the racism/using the n-word/misogyny/etc.

Have you got any evidence he supports these organisations beyond a video from 2012? I mean your implying he's in that picture when I don't see him anywhere and the only thing I can find reference to on the internet is that video? I'm not going to die on a hill for Cenk, especially after his comments (though I'd hold presidential candidates to the same standards), but it looks like that in particular could be a smear assuming he's changed?
 

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Why the act of this being a sudden occurrence? His issues were well-documented and there was immediate pushback to his kick-off announcement.
Because instead of recognizing his very public and explicit past makes him a poor political candidate he stands by some of the gross shit he said while gaslighting people that it's all a smear job and he doesn't think any of that stuff anymore.
 

Gunslinger

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I used to watch TYT back in the day. As a Muslim person it was good to see another fellow Muslim brother doing well but havent seen TYT in years. Whats the hate for Cenk?
 

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I used to watch TYT back in the day. As a Muslim person it was good to see another fellow Muslim brother doing well but havent seen TYT in years. Whats the hate for Cenk?
He's a pretty gigantic misogynist who loves peddling unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
 

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I appreciate the awareness and work that Cenk has done over the years but he's way in over his head with this. It says something about him that he can't even read the room and see how taking this seat is messed up. If he's serious about politics then
I already did!
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(For balance, I did one for Warren several posts later: #8,568 )
Lmao!!! @ Charles Barkley as Sec of Labor. I want to see this happen now.
 

Powdered Egg

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Cenk rightfully shouldn't run for this seat and the bad faith people are having fun with this also. Those in power don't care about Cenk's misogyny, he's a pain in their ass period. Cenk had an MSNBC show last decade and was canned for criticizing Democrats and Washington.
 

excelsiorlef

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Are we canceling Sam Seder also who interviewed Cenk today, they obviously like each other? Cenk used to be a Republican and said some horrible shit and he's addressed this multiple times. Cenk is easily the best on policy for that district, yeah he said some really dumb shit, but I'd rather be OK with people reforming and not cancelling them forever.
Addressed it multiple times indeed, including this week, where he doubled down on sexism.
 

mescalineeyes

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I think it's time to go back to employing and endorsing only people who will tepidly stand by while some centrist dem does drone strikes and then become millionaires from a podcast.
 

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I think it's time to go back to employing and endorsing only people who will tepidly stand by while some centrist dem does drone strikes and then become millionaires from a podcast.
I'd prefer we also don't employ and endorse virulent misogynists who spread conspiracy theories and have no shot of winning but I guess I'm just crazy for wanting that
 

mescalineeyes

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fact is Cenk has done more for progressive causes than anyone in here has ever even come close to.
shame about him constantly putting his dumb foot in his dumb mouth but I mean we all know why most of y'all are really here.
 

Armaros

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fact is Cenk has done more for progressive causes than anyone in here has ever even come close to.
shame about him constantly putting his dumb foot in his dumb mouth but I mean we all know why most of y'all are really here.

raging misogyny , of which he defend his statements of are is foot in mouth disease?

Its funny, i could say the same about why he has such a vocal defense, when his behavior would not be tolerated if it was a more mainstream person.
 

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fact is Cenk has done more for progressive causes than anyone in here has ever even come close to.
shame about him constantly putting his dumb foot in his dumb mouth but I mean we all know why most of y'all are really here.
Lot of people including OP are progressives lol
 

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fact is Cenk has done more for progressive causes than anyone in here has ever even come close to.
shame about him constantly putting his dumb foot in his dumb mouth but I mean we all know why most of y'all are really here.

mmm, I love "He's an asshole, but he says things I agree with, so it's okay" sentiments.
 

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fact is Cenk has done more for progressive causes than anyone in here has ever even come close to.
shame about him constantly putting his dumb foot in his dumb mouth but I mean we all know why most of y'all are really here.

That grade school level deflection

Nothing says progressive like denying genocides, being sexist, bringing on head Klan members and saying n-bombs like it's casual Friday!

I do love this thread, people throwing themselves onto the train tracks for a literal piece of shit
 

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yes, Cenk standing up for the rights of minorities for decades, fighting for M4A and getting money out of politics... is exactly the same as Trump.
Doing all of that while doing your damndest to ostracize women by being a misogynist asshole is pretty harmful to the long term future of progressive movements actually.

There's a reason the term brocialist exists.
 

cameron

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I think it's time to go back to employing and endorsing only people who will tepidly stand by while some centrist dem does drone strikes and then become millionaires from a podcast.
fact is Cenk has done more for progressive causes than anyone in here has ever even come close to.
shame about him constantly putting his dumb foot in his dumb mouth but I mean we all know why most of y'all are really here.
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I mean just listen to yourself.
 
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