I feel for him and wish him the best, but this is the guy people are seriously wanting in the office? It was said that he was too old before this and it only underscores it
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Bernie Sanders has emergency heart surgery, has cancelled campaign stops and is resting (UP: released, was a heart attack)
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Unless you know something we don't, it's not the end of his campaign.
I wouldn't say it's that bad for him. People wanted Hillary's head and the folks still screaming about age will stop doing that when the remaining candidates will most likely not be what we would call young either
This is quite obviously the incident that will sink his chances. Like snowy said:
It doesn't matter how minor the ailment is or how standard the procedure is to perform. It is weakness. It will be exploited, magnified, twisted, and warped to fit whatever narrative opposing Democrats/Republicans want it to say. This is the kind of meat Trump loooves to chew on.
It's pretty sad then that democrats are jumping on this like Republicans would.
It's a primary, that's to be expected. Democrats won't be as harsh as the Republicans will about it.
Jane sez he's still planning to attend the October debate, perhaps he will come armed with a powerful anecdote about the importance of being able to go to the doctor whenever you feel like something's wrong to get fixed up without worrying about how much it'll cost
I can pitch in an anecdote as someone who has a family member who put off minor heart surgery like this for years and years because of the cost only to have to wind up getting much more serious surgery as a result.
Update: Campaign states it was a heart attack.
IMO, he really should pull out and just throw his support fully behind Warren.
Awkward in that we will have to suppress our happiness at an old piece of shit dying because it's not a good look.
ain't noting gonna be awkward about bustin' out the champagne at the death of orange fuckstick, no matter how he croaks
Considering that Warren is dialing back on some of her policies to be closer to the centre as well as taking corporate money before announcing her Presidential race (accepting corporate money during her 2018 Senate run to build a war chest fund of sorts), I think Bernie should stay in the race to keep the political landscape shifting more to the left.
His health is more important than your desired party direction.
Thankfully Captain Orange's attention is all on Schiff and impeachment right now.
I'm a Warren backer, personally, but I don't think it's unreasonable for him to lean into this and make it part of his messaging. I can imagine talking heads on the news cycle saying, "The man had a heart attack and he was back on the campaign trail days later! He's not going to rest until he's fixed America!"
I say this as someone who thinks he's too old and would rather he groomed a successor. You just have to control the messaging.
I say this as someone who thinks he's too old and would rather he groomed a successor. You just have to control the messaging.
I'm not very knowledgeable about heart problems so I'm not sure what the difference between a "blocked artery that required stents" and a heart attack is.
if it would've been preventative surgery then nothing, but having a heart attack increases the chances of having another heart attack down the road, as well as increases the risk of a stroke in most people
I think the narrative of "this man is almost 80 and having heart attacks, it's lunacy to say he's in any sort of state to begin a first term as President" would win out.
I know people like Kyle Kulinski and people from The Hill were pretty vocal about this news.
Damn.
Right to my face.
You middle aged kids don't give a fuck.
He likely needed stents in response to the blockage, and they likely found the blockage because he had a heart attack. Heart attacks can range in severity. Seeing as he had chest pains, that was probably the heart attack.
By the way, y'all know for a fact Trump is going to say something like "Bernie doesn't have the heart to be in this. Literally." and other venomous bullshit. Good be infuriating hearing such remarks from someone who consistently looks like they're in the middle of having a heart attack.
Yeah but damn near any med professional would tell you emergency stenting after chest pain more likely than not STEMI/NSTEMI.
Tell that to Bernie Sanders.
And no it isn't. If he manages to shift the direction that helps countless of people, then it is more important than his health.
What?? Him potentially literally killing himself is not worth it, no.
Fuck yeah!
Good to see him and healthy looking.
Great statement. I'm sure he knows his limits.
That said.
I expect to see him doing this until the ground catches him if it ever does. Everyone should strive to be as determined and also appreciate that drive when it graces us through someone like Bernie Sanders.
ROCK ON!
Good to see him and healthy looking.
Great statement. I'm sure he knows his limits.
That said.
I expect to see him doing this until the ground catches him if it ever does. Everyone should strive to be as determined and also appreciate that drive when it graces us through someone like Bernie Sanders.
ROCK ON!
Who else is equivalent to Sanders in the race that can follow up with his proposed policies?
And as mentioned before, Warren is not Sanders. Her policies comes nowhere near what Sanders offers and has taken corporate money previously in 2018, which she is still benefiting from now.
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