So you don't like Bernie because he's not fighting a culture war. Are the rest of the candidates fighting a culture war? If so, which ones. I am very curious about this.
Not trying to pidgeonhole you. I'm trying to understand what you mean by culture war. The only example you've given is the basket of deplorables thing which, to me, is a completely superfluous, surface level attack that doesn't really change anything because it has no action to back it up. There is value in calling a spade a spade, but it can't just end there.
Also, what do you consider systemic and what do you consider cultural?
Policy is systemic. Messaging is cultural.
Everyone on the field has called out racial injustice, gun violence, LGBTQ+ rights, and Misogyny. Do you suggest that they stop pushing policy and focus entirely on that messaging?
yes, it was superfluous because Hillary wasn't backing it up with action. At the same time, Hillary didn't want single payer and other so-called starry eyed plans. We can't just fight "culturally". It has to be paired with action. Material needs must be addressed as well and hillary wasn't really offering that.
So should politicians not focus on the policies that could help these groups and solely focus on the message?
What is love?
I could say the same to you. I think it's quite telling that you came into this thread to say that this won't pass because it was starry eyed and unrealistic and then change your reasoning for saying that several times. First it was so that people won't get disillusioned by the process so you wanted to manage expectations. Then it was because sanders supporters didn't want nuance. And now it's because you don't think the system will change until the culture does despite the two being so intertwined with each other. Like, for me, it doesn't matter that a corporate board better reflects the diversity in the United States if they are still massively contributing to climate change. It doesn't matter if Hillary called the right a basket of deplorables if she still supported coups changes in other countries or giving money to countries that use child soldiers.
I reacted to a superfluous question with a superfluous question. But ok.
Quit shitting up the thread.
The bernie or bust folks resulted in democrats who wouldnt vote for hillary when he didnt get the nomination and she did. Especially after stuff came out bout blocking bernie from within the party. That crowd going 3rd party just weakened votes.
Hillary lost enthusiasm all on her own. You can blame Bernie as much as you want but she had months to sway the American people and get them to pokemon go to the polls.
