Discussion in 'EtcetEra' started by excelsiorlef, Nov 8, 2018.
Bernie is white.
There's a difference.
You have to live this thruth. Not march for it a few times several decades ago.
Bernie's statement here was offensive and moronic. He gets no pass because a few decades ago he marched with black people before hightailing it to Vermont.
Clearly his quote in this thread we're discussing proves you wrong....
BUT THE WHITE MAN MARCHED WITH KING, WHAT HAVEEEER YOOUUUUUUUU DONE ABOUT RACISMMMMM
is that where you're headed next?
And people wonder why minority’s didn’t vote for him lol
I always assume most older white people are racist and all my friends do too.
But my point was to the idea of him being a racist or entirely oblivious to the issue of racism and bigotry.
The point is that you can call these people racist, piss them off, and lose Florida again in 2020, or you can baby them and take the country back. They're undoubtedly racist but you have to understand why he can't out and out deem them as such. If we had won the Florida governorship it would have been a different story but the racists Floridians decided against them and we need some of them to flip in 2020.
The most shocking thing about this is that anyone is shocked. Bernie "Aren't most of the people who sell the drugs African American?" Sanders cannot talk about race, because he fundamentally does not want to learn or listen. No reason to twist oneself into a pretzel to defend the man. He just doesn't get it, and it's clearly from a lack of trying.
I mean, are any of us surprised by this? Especially those of us who are minorities?
Bernie is basically the physical manifestation of the white ‘progressive’
Come on Bernie.
B) You really shouldn't bring that up when you want to talk about the situation of Racism towards African Americans which has gone on since the start of the Transatlantic Slave trade until......TODAY.
I don't understand where he's coming from. Is he apologizing to whites? I mean, it says he supported Gillium and Abrams, and that losers weren't progressive enough.
My grandpa didn't know whether he should vote for Obama or not because of his skin color. He ended up an Obama fan. Is this just about being afraid of something you're unfamiliar with or an unfinished rambling?
Bernie, what the fuck.
Still voting for you though, #bernie2020
What a dumb and dumbfounding thing to say.
He needs to apologize for this stupid comment and focus on being a senator rather than trying to be some kind of national spokesman for Democrats.
Bernie in a primary against multiple viable progressive candidates would get demolished in the south and in minority votes.
I voted for him in 2016 and almost want him to run again just to put bernie or busters in place, but of course they would continue to make excuses for him losing. And it may cannibalize the votes later.
Bernie rarely misspeaks. And this "appeal to rural whites/identity politics last" rutine fits a pattern with him.
Bernie is grown. Let this grown man stand by his words and be dragged through the coals for them.
I mean, damn, when HERMAN CAIN is on Twitter dunking on you and getting applause from both sides...you done fucked up.
People saying Bernie aint white?
Extrapolating his comment but replacing black with jewish and racist with anti-semite makes as little sense as the original comment btw.
If you want to dismiss all that because he fucked up on this statement be my guest, Bro.
literally cannot win because they do not have the votes. https://www.voterstudygroup.org/publications/2016-elections/political-divisions-in-2016-and-beyond
Nixon's vision for the US was effectively a social democratic apartheid state. The scary thing is that his vision for the US, if it had been followed through on instead of going hard-right economically under Reagan, likely would have been extraordinarily successful, electorally speaking. And you can see this in Europe, where many of the insurgent populist racist parties are following that playbook. Just like Trump did during the 2016 campaign running to the left of the GOP on economic/welfare issues. But his fatal error was treating politics like one of his business deals, and immediately backstabbing his voters by abandoning those promises and going full Paul Ryan. But that strategy only works in games you play once. A random contractor you screw over you'l never deal with again. But voters? You'll be seeing them again and again. Elections are an iterative game, and it's why Presidents generally really do try and keep their promises. And Trump's refusal to do that is why you have mass Obama->Trump backlash in the midwest and why he's going to be a big underdog to win reelection if he makes it to November of 2020.
Lol go away, Bernie.
Regardless, he fucked up.
I on the other hand dont have that luxury. My blackness cant pass.
Relax guys this is politics. He doesn’t want to alienate any potential voters. Unfortunately there are a lot of white voters in this country who don’t want to feel like they’re losing power. Change takes time. We are still in a transition.
Because six-million Holocaust victims would suggest otherwise, not to mention the antisemitism that's been rampant in this nation since forever.
That said, I'm not going to toss the baby out with the bathwater.
Do as you will.
So bigots are not bigots?
I don't agree but to each their own.
Its more that they throw his problematic bullshit into a freezer and refuse to accept it for what it is. Just read the thread, its 8 pages of people trying to explain his bullshit away while the rest of us go "Nah".
But yeah, this isnt shocking coming from him at all.
Bringing up the holocaust also aint a good look