Discussion in 'EtcetEra' started by excelsiorlef, Nov 8, 2018.
Again, my problem is equating white with Jewish because clearly, the racists differentiate.
"Im the least antisemitic person youve ever met."
I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood. My closest freinds have all been Jews. Ive been to multiple bar mitzvahs. Ive been a part of more Jewish religious cerimonies then I have Christian.
You might have percived it as being antisemitic, but it wasn't.
holy overreaction era. i just read this as "there's unique challenges and hinderances that a black president would have to overcome that a white president would not, thus some voters might have been a reluctant to vote for a black president despite them personally not having any racist beliefs."
I don't know why we are discussing Jewishness and whiteness.
If you wanted to give Sanders some benefit of the doubt, you can see from his comments about anti-Semitism that he is using a (too) high bar for those terms.
It was anti-Semitism. It is racism.
He definitely has a lot more of a hopeful outlook than many right now. Maybe that's a positive. Maybe it's naive. Dunno
Remind me again why this fuckwit is so popular?
I just think pretending Jews are the same as other whites is problematic.
He is Jewish but he is still white and can certainly take advantage of being white. He also most certainly participates in the same nonsense other white people participate in, this thread is an example of that.
Who are you to tell people who is or isn't a racist? You're doing the same thing Bernie did.
That is, admittedly, a very fair point.
The thread is about Bernie saying VOTERS who don’t want to vote for a POC aren’t necessarily racist.
In the same talk he talks about the GOP running racist campaigns.
THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP IT.
How many fucking times does it have to be said without you robots responding with another long-winded ass story about how racist the gop campaigns were? What the fuck is wrong with you guys?
Some pretty racist Trump supporters were pretty happy to vote for Obama in 2008 or 2012.
Having a problem with voting for someone because the candidate is black is hardcore racism, no 2 ways about it.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
by your definition, affirmative action would be racism.
Same Bernie who said that the South doesn't matter
skin color that's prejudice.
And affirmative action isn't racist by that definition since it doesn't see minority groups as superior, but is a corrective measure for centuries of inequality that needs to be addressed.
I would argue that implicit racist is far more damaging than explicit. Implicit racial bias fuels systematic racism. People use the fact that they aren't explicit like the KKK to assume that their views aren't racist. Those insidious types are far more scary than KKK.
This thread is basically white people saying what he said aint that bad or turning it into "Bernie aint a white guy he white Jewish". This is why America has such a problem
The people in this thread saying Bernie should just join the Republican party are full on goofy.
Trump appeals to conservative whiteness, Sanders appeals to "liberal" whiteness.
Trump uses racism as a tool, Sanders ignores it outright.
That's why it wasn't so difficult for some of his supporters to jump on the Trump train.
One of the many reasons why I won't vote for Bernie Sanders.
Don't call racists racists, people. You may hurt their feelings.
He marched with Dr. King, negros. Kiss the ring.
Bernie ain't shit.
But the bigger problem is how a lot of white folks just can't fathom the idea that racism doesn't start and stop at the n word.
Affirmative action isn't about the belief that one's own race is superior. Not voting for someone solely because of their skin color, which Bernie is saying here, is.
I got to say, that’s some mental gymnastics there. Well you see, they are not racists they just don’t like the colored folks....... :????
Is this one of those "okay, he did a racist thing, but he isn't racist inside" things? One of the "well they're not a Neo-Nazi so I think they'd still good" things?
He does know how to use dog whistles.
if i was chief of a police force looking to do an undercover operation on the KKK, i would elect the white cop as the undercover agent because it would probably be way easier for him. blackkklansman was a great movie though.