Discussion in 'EtcetEra' started by excelsiorlef, Nov 8, 2018.
I don't see how you can defend this. I'm a big Bernie fanboy myself but yeah, he went soft on racist White voters. Are y'all defending Bernie here or your not necessarily racist friends and family with the same mentality?
Bernie jumps the shark and we can all move on from him. Hopefully.
He literally says "folks who are not necessarily racist" when those folks ARE racist by definition.
Oh, fuck off.
He's just the other end of the horseshoe.
Catering to those against "identity politics" and "political correctness".
If anything this board tought me that people don’t even realize why racism is bad... :(
Look, I’m an immigrant but I’m white. Don’t have have to deal much with racism. But I was educated in the US and even that give a a glimpse of what racism is about.
I’m originally from the country where blackface and racil slurs are still OK. Those things don’t necessarily come from hate but rather from ignorance.
But as bad as those things are they are nowhere close to fucked up things that happen in the US on daily basis. People constantly don’t get hired, voted into the office, and/or get good education simply because of color of their skin. THAT’S FUCKED UP! And that’s waaaaaay worse than blackface and racial slurs. These things impact millions of people AND those things last generations. It’s a closed circuit that is tough to get out of. Bernie’s racism is way worse than simply language that idiots use on the internet.
And yes, I don’t have personal experience with this racism, but there’s plenty of statistics that show the impact of this type of racism. It’s not difficult to find.
It's almost like an old man who's spent his political career appealing to the White Supremacist dream vacation spot that is Vermont is completely tone deaf on racial issues.
No that actually is racism Bernie
This is why POC have trust issues with white progressives and democratic voters.
- Anthony Scaramucci and Clipjoint
Oh COME ON
Not like this, Bernie.
I mean, I could give him the benefit if the doubt and say he probably means voters will still consider policy regardless of a candidate's race. For example, as a white guy I would feel uncomfortable voting for someone running on a platform of basically "fuck the poor." But let's not pretend that's how this reads. What an awful thing for someone like him to say at a time like this :/
FOLKS EVEN PEOPLE THE CHAPO TRAPHOUSE REDDIT IS SHITTING ON SANDERS FOR THIS... AND THEY'RE DIRTBAGS!
Is Bernie racist? Probably not. Should he be held to a higher standard due to the office he holds, the office he sought, and his position as a leading progressive voice? Yes.
But it's easy and convenient to snipe at him from in front of a computer screen, so by all means, go ahead.
Guys, did you know that Bernie Sanders marched in the 60s? Never heard that one before.
Edit: And now banned.
I tried to warn him.
As a self-identified complicated democratic socialist who didn’t always feel good about Hillary Clinton but was happy to vote for her, thank you for your service, Bernie.
I cannot have this trash about class and not race, as if the latter doesn’t exist as a serious concept and source of identity, from the New Left. I really cannot hear this when I know New York members of the DSA who wouldn’t be caught dead saying this to their neighbors.
And when we see blatant, offensive, gross racism from people like DeSantis possibly prevail in one of the largest and most vibrant states in the Union, then I really cannot have this mealymouthed bullshit. I can’t have this about gun control and I can’t have this about scared white people. Because as far as I’m concerned, the minute you have to say “let me be absolutely clear” like Theresa May, you’re not clear about anything. You’re fucking up.
This is when I start hearing Old Vermont and old ass rural America talk about people like me like I’m from Crooklyn, asking why my black and brown neighbors are “ruining their own lives and what choices are they making”. I’m tired of hearing this shit.
Thank you for your service, Bernie.
STOP PULLING OUT MLK LIKE A DAMN YUGIOH CARD!
Look, I'm not a minority. But when you've got actual minorities saying "this shit's problematic," maybe it's appropriate to listen to them if their votes are important.
I'm also fucking tired of the Democratic Party taking taking so many goddamned unforced errors. The standard line should be simple: "Best I can do is listen to the problems of minorities since I can't experience them firsthand, and since every American deserves representation, I support electing people of color and other minorities."
Can we please get over this whole Bernie thing already
Let me expand
HE MOVE TO FUCKING VERMONT
IGNORED BLACK PEOPLE THERE
I dunno why he keeps doing this, playing the "let's not hurt the racists feelings" shit. I think he thinks he's being clever and is trying to reverse psychology half of America into not being trash, but he doesn't seem to realize that the majority of the "not racist if they thought about it" crowd is just really fucking stupid and racist.
Call me crazy? But eh I’m ok with Bernie on this
I wish y’all would defend black folks like y’all defend Bernie.
Only thing left out was the defunding of programs targeting domestic terrorists and white supremacist groups recently.