1. El Bombastico

    El Bombastico
    Member

    The similarity between Bernie Bros and Trumpers never ceases to terrify me.
     
  2. Ukraine

    Ukraine
    Banned Member

    Sure you can add context to a racist statement. It doesn’t make it not racist. Not sure what point you are making. Also nice way to play a victim card. Lol
     
  3. Powdered Egg

    Powdered Egg
    Member

    I don't see how you can defend this. I'm a big Bernie fanboy myself but yeah, he went soft on racist White voters. Are y'all defending Bernie here or your not necessarily racist friends and family with the same mentality?
     
  4. Clipjoint

    Clipjoint
    Banned Member

    I'm not playing the victim card, I'm responding to a post saying that I should shut up because someone else got banned for defending his statement. If that's what the atmosphere in here is going to be like, it's no better than the old place.
     
  5. TemplaerDude

    TemplaerDude
    Member

    Bernie jumps the shark and we can all move on from him. Hopefully.
     
  6. astro

    astro
    Member

    It doesn't change literally anything about the problematic part of the sentence, no.

    He literally says "folks who are not necessarily racist" when those folks ARE racist by definition.
     
  7. Urban Scholar

    Urban Scholar
    Member

    This is art
     
  8. El Bombastico

    El Bombastico
    Member

    Clearly, we're just taking his quote out of context!
     
  9. Encephalon

    Encephalon
    Member

    Oh, fuck off.
     
  10. Kreed

    Kreed
    Member

    This is why we need more voting options + a non "winner take all" system.
     
  11. pokeystaples

    pokeystaples
    Member

    This is my take and has been for a while. Let this old man wander out of the spotlight, please.
     
  12. Kernel

    Kernel
    Member

    He's just the other end of the horseshoe.

    Catering to those against "identity politics" and "political correctness".
     
  13. Ukraine

    Ukraine
    Banned Member

    If anything this board tought me that people don’t even realize why racism is bad... :(

    Look, I’m an immigrant but I’m white. Don’t have have to deal much with racism. But I was educated in the US and even that give a a glimpse of what racism is about.

    I’m originally from the country where blackface and racil slurs are still OK. Those things don’t necessarily come from hate but rather from ignorance.

    But as bad as those things are they are nowhere close to fucked up things that happen in the US on daily basis. People constantly don’t get hired, voted into the office, and/or get good education simply because of color of their skin. THAT’S FUCKED UP! And that’s waaaaaay worse than blackface and racial slurs. These things impact millions of people AND those things last generations. It’s a closed circuit that is tough to get out of. Bernie’s racism is way worse than simply language that idiots use on the internet.

    And yes, I don’t have personal experience with this racism, but there’s plenty of statistics that show the impact of this type of racism. It’s not difficult to find.
     
  14. Ukraine

    Ukraine
    Banned Member

    You are literally defending a racist statement. What did you expect?
     
  15. Addie

    Addie
    Member

    It's almost like an old man who's spent his political career appealing to the White Supremacist dream vacation spot that is Vermont is completely tone deaf on racial issues.
     
  16. gogosox82

    gogosox82
    Member

    No that actually is racism Bernie
     
  17. The Kree

    The Kree
    Member

    So when are you leaving, 73?
     
  18. SpaceSong

    SpaceSong
    Member

    This is why POC have trust issues with white progressives and democratic voters.
     
  19. El Bombastico

    El Bombastico
    Member

    Nah, its the fault of us minorities for not contextualizing the racist quotes of Jesus H. Sanders.
     
  20. excelsiorlef

    excelsiorlef
    Member OP

    “No, no, no, no, don’t take him literally, take him symbolically,”

    - Anthony Scaramucci and Clipjoint
     
  21. Happy Bivouac

    Happy Bivouac
    Member

    Oh COME ON

    Not like this, Bernie.

    I mean, I could give him the benefit if the doubt and say he probably means voters will still consider policy regardless of a candidate's race. For example, as a white guy I would feel uncomfortable voting for someone running on a platform of basically "fuck the poor." But let's not pretend that's how this reads. What an awful thing for someone like him to say at a time like this :/
     
  22. Tfritz

    Tfritz
    Member

    For every voter of color they alienate, they'll pick up three white moderates voters
     
  23. excelsiorlef

    excelsiorlef
    Member OP

    FOLKS EVEN PEOPLE THE CHAPO TRAPHOUSE REDDIT IS SHITTING ON SANDERS FOR THIS... AND THEY'RE DIRTBAGS!
     
  24. D i Z

    D i Z
    Member

    That's a wrap.
     
  25. Addie

    Addie
    Member

    "Let's repeatedly give him the benefit of the doubt even though we simultaneously claim he's the best choice to lead America"

    Is Bernie racist? Probably not. Should he be held to a higher standard due to the office he holds, the office he sought, and his position as a leading progressive voice? Yes.
     
  26. Clipjoint

    Clipjoint
    Banned Member

    Bernie has been marching with and fighting for African Americans in this country since the 1960s. He's put his privilege on the line to defend POC his entire career. No one campaigned harder for Gillum and Abrams than Bernie did.

    But it's easy and convenient to snipe at him from in front of a computer screen, so by all means, go ahead.

    [​IMG]
     
  27. Addie

    Addie
    Member

    Yes, I know what he did. And I'm not telling him to go away. I want him to do better.
     
  28. El Bombastico

    El Bombastico
    Member

    Keep digging that hole, son.
     
  29. excelsiorlef

    excelsiorlef
    Member OP

    HE MOVED TO FUCKING VERMONT
     
  30. The Adder

    The Adder
    Member

    Did this dude really just 'but he marched with Dr. King" unironically.
     
  31. stupei

    stupei
    Member

    Guys, did you know that Bernie Sanders marched in the 60s? Never heard that one before.
     
  32. TerminusFox

    TerminusFox
    Member

    Lmao. So because he did something good in the past we can’t critici the dumb borderline racist shit he says?

    FOH
     
  33. Kitsunelaine

    Kitsunelaine
    My favorite cake is pie Member

    Yes.
     
  34. El Bombastico

    El Bombastico
    Member

    I mean, he only has 73 posts...

    Edit: And now banned.

    I tried to warn him.
     
  35. Lo-Volt

    Lo-Volt
    Member

    As a self-identified complicated democratic socialist who didn’t always feel good about Hillary Clinton but was happy to vote for her, thank you for your service, Bernie.

    I cannot have this trash about class and not race, as if the latter doesn’t exist as a serious concept and source of identity, from the New Left. I really cannot hear this when I know New York members of the DSA who wouldn’t be caught dead saying this to their neighbors.

    And when we see blatant, offensive, gross racism from people like DeSantis possibly prevail in one of the largest and most vibrant states in the Union, then I really cannot have this mealymouthed bullshit. I can’t have this about gun control and I can’t have this about scared white people. Because as far as I’m concerned, the minute you have to say “let me be absolutely clear” like Theresa May, you’re not clear about anything. You’re fucking up.

    This is when I start hearing Old Vermont and old ass rural America talk about people like me like I’m from Crooklyn, asking why my black and brown neighbors are “ruining their own lives and what choices are they making”. I’m tired of hearing this shit.

    Thank you for your service, Bernie.
     
  36. Soundscream

    Soundscream
    Member

    STOP PULLING OUT MLK LIKE A DAMN YUGIOH CARD!
     
  37. Addie

    Addie
    Member

    Look, I'm not a minority. But when you've got actual minorities saying "this shit's problematic," maybe it's appropriate to listen to them if their votes are important.

    I'm also fucking tired of the Democratic Party taking taking so many goddamned unforced errors. The standard line should be simple: "Best I can do is listen to the problems of minorities since I can't experience them firsthand, and since every American deserves representation, I support electing people of color and other minorities."
     
  38. Driggonny

    Driggonny
    Member

    Can we please get over this whole Bernie thing already
     
  39. excelsiorlef

    excelsiorlef
    Member OP

  40. D i Z

    D i Z
    Member

    Crazy how people keep missing this.
     
  41. Veggen

    Veggen
    Member

    Are you surprised that much of this forum is to the right of the dirtbag left? Or are you trying to bargain with someone?
     
  42. Arkeband

    Arkeband
    Member

    I dunno why he keeps doing this, playing the "let's not hurt the racists feelings" shit. I think he thinks he's being clever and is trying to reverse psychology half of America into not being trash, but he doesn't seem to realize that the majority of the "not racist if they thought about it" crowd is just really fucking stupid and racist.
     
  43. Kirblar

    Kirblar
    Member

  44. excelsiorlef

    excelsiorlef
    Member OP

    That was directed at the lefties here who are defending Sanders,
     
  45. D i Z

    D i Z
    Member

    They won't.
     
  46. excelsiorlef

    excelsiorlef
    Member OP

    Look I just wanted to yell ok.
     
  47. garlic powder

    garlic powder
    Banned Member

    • User Banned (Permanent): Trolling. Account in Junior Phase.
    Call me crazy? But eh I’m ok with Bernie on this
     
  48. TerminusFox

    TerminusFox
    Member

    I wish y’all would defend black folks like y’all defend Bernie.
     
  49. [​IMG]

    Only thing left out was the defunding of programs targeting domestic terrorists and white supremacist groups recently.
     
  50. DigitalOp

    DigitalOp
    Member

    Near the bottom fam, you know I got you