Obama didn't really evolve, he just did the politically smart, or cynical, thing to win the South Carolina primary in '08Biden has been pretty solid on LGBTQ Rights. He was signaling support for Gay marriage while Obama was still evolving his views. Was this event skip a calculated move? lets be real here a Democrat is winning California no matter what. Being at other events is not going to Harm Biden and its not an event that's going to win him Conservative votes so its not all politics.
http://time.com/3702584/gay-marriage-axelrod-obama/Barack Obama misled Americans for his own political benefit when he claimed in the 2008 election to oppose same sex marriage for religious reasons, his former political strategist David Axelrod writes in a new book, Believer: My Forty Years in Politics.
“I’m just not very good at bullshitting,” Obama told Axelrod, after an event where he stated his opposition to same-sex marriage, according to the book.
Axelrod writes that he knew Obama was in favor of same-sex marriages during the first presidential campaign, even as Obama publicly said he only supported civil unions, not full marriages. Axelrod also admits to counseling Obama to conceal that position for political reasons. “Opposition to gay marriage was particularly strong in the black church, and as he ran for higher office, he grudgingly accepted the counsel of more pragmatic folks like me, and modified his position to support civil unions rather than marriage, which he would term a ‘sacred union,’ ” Axelrod writes.
Yeah, almost nobody who looked into it ever believed he actually opposed gay marriage. Axelrod just confirmed what most political observers already knew.Obama didn't really evolve, he just did the politically smart, or cynical, thing to win the South Carolina primary in '08
I wouldn't call you a cynic with this analysis. I'd say you're 100% correct.
It only worked because all the other candidates were stupid enough to fall for it, it seems.
Obama was very good at bullshitting. He underestimates his own capacities. (this is intended as a compliment towards his political skill, as being able to bullshit is a necessary one in a politician.)Obama didn't really evolve, he just did the politically smart, or cynical, thing to win the South Carolina primary in '08
I feel like a lot of people in this thread aren't understanding. Unless it's for fundraisers, Democratic presedential candidates don't spend a lot of time in California during the general election because it's historical a lock for the Democrat.
Beto ended up having lower favorables than Harris. Harris still has room between people who don't know her name and people who have no opinion on her to have the highest approval atm. Bernie and Biden have near 100% name rec with a very tiny amount of no opinion in their approval numbers while Biden wins the "second choice" vote by massive margins. If I had to guess this far out, the dem nominee will be Buttigieg, Biden, or Harris.
Tell me, where was this stated?
Nope. They should do both. And they should go in hard on Biden. I'm not going to change my mind, he needs to be out of the race asap.
I remember this excuse made by republicans about Hillary. Now it’s liberals using it on their own
That was my take as well, but to be fair I'm mid-way through binging the final season of Veep, so it's hard not to be a bit cynical.
He’s polling well above everyone else even in CA. Debates are what will really matter imo.
It's this shit that bothers me and is why I like Beto/Harris.
If you think he's trying to avoid being on stage at a convention that next to no one will think about and without having to really interact with other candidates at that convention, well, I think you're just believing what you want to.
If anything, Bernie voters love Biden so Bernie sniping Biden like this for something negligible is more likely to cause his voters defect to Biden (I doubt something like this makes a significant difference either way).