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Bernie, Warren snipe at Biden for skipping California Dem Convention. He was the LGBTQ civil rights gala in Ohio.
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Just checking if said LGBTQ event attendance had tipped the scales other way!
Obama didn't really evolve, he just did the politically smart, or cynical, thing to win the South Carolina primary in '08
http://time.com/3702584/gay-marriage-axelrod-obama/
This is where Harris can make a PowePplay and become King Maker
Yes. Hatred of a candidate should be separate from assessing their politcal viability, though. I'm not gonna be in denial of his chances just because I want his chances to be zero.
Yeah, almost nobody who looked into it ever believed he actually opposed gay marriage. Axelrod just confirmed what most political observers already knew.
Warren was DoA with her DNA bullshit.
Bernie? LOL
Harris might still have a chance, we'll see.
Beto? WTF ever happened to that guy?
Honestly who cares if he wasnt at the convention? Isnt this the establishment that people dont care about anyway?
I feel like if you were to reverse Bernie with Biden the responses would look much different.
I feel like if you were to reverse Bernie with Biden the responses would look much different.
I wouldn't call you a cynic with this analysis. I'd say you're 100% correct.
It only worked because all the other candidates were stupid enough to fall for it, it seems.
It would.
Moreover, I don't know why Warren's name is getting dragged into this. She tagged him, fairly, on shit he said about how Republicans will magically want to govern with reason once Trump is gone, not his absence
Obama was very good at bullshitting. He underestimates his own capacities. (this is intended as a compliment towards his political skill, as being able to bullshit is a necessary one in a politician.)
I mean, it's a nice gesture, but he's still a shit candidate.
Maybe he wanted to put the bi in Biden and now he gropes all genders. So progressive!
I do think it's good to see him there though.
I do think it's good to see him there though.
I feel like a lot of people in this thread aren't understanding. Unless it's for fundraisers, Democratic presedential candidates don't spend a lot of time in California during the general election because it's historical a lock for the Democrat.
During a primary, if you want to win, you absolutely need to be campaigning in California (and arguably any other state in the US that has earlier primaries, whether the state is liberal or conservative). What these candidates are doing showing up in California is vying for votes and delegates during the primary...each state has a certain number of delegates and California has a large amount. if they have enough delegates they win and get to go to the general.
Beto ended up having lower favorables than Harris. Harris still has room between people who don't know her name and people who have no opinion on her to have the highest approval atm. Bernie and Biden have near 100% name rec with a very tiny amount of no opinion in their approval numbers while Biden wins the "second choice" vote by massive margins. If I had to guess this far out, the dem nominee will be Buttigieg, Biden, or Harris.
Tell me, where was this stated?
Yeah tbh it's not the worst play. Biden isn't courting Dem activists. .
Nope. They should do both. And they should go in hard on Biden. I'm not going to change my mind, he needs to be out of the race asap.
A different angle:
Looks like Biden has been trying to avoid direct contact with other candidates.
He'd skip the debates if he could, I bet.
Just a thought.
Looks like Biden has been trying to avoid direct contact with other candidates.
He'd skip the debates if he could, I bet.
Just a thought.
its probably a bad play in the primary. Ohio isn't a very relevant state in the primary season, especially compared to the CA primary which takes place very early on this time.
It really is amazing how Dems seem to have learned NOTHING from 2016...
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I remember this excuse made by republicans about Hillary. Now it's liberals using it on their own
That was my take as well, but to be fair I'm mid-way through binging the final season of Veep, so it's hard not to be a bit cynical.
The worst?
Worst than Trump stans?
Worst than creep apologist Biden stans?
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You know for a fact that a lot of Era loves gross harassers, despite the fact that Era was born from a backlash against gross harassment.
He's polling well above everyone else even in CA. Debates are what will really matter imo.
It's this shit that bothers me and is why I like Beto/Harris.
Do Bernie and Warren want to focus on making dumb snipes in the hope that Biden voters will care? Or in the case of this, to look foolish? Focus on your own campaign for fucks sake.
If you think he's trying to avoid being on stage at a convention that next to no one will think about and without having to really interact with other candidates at that convention, well, I think you're just believing what you want to.
Make no mistake, though, I do think Biden would prefer if the election were held today and all this campaigning stuff was skipped, I just don't think there was that much calculus in skipping this event. I also think that if Bernie skipped this event you'd have people lining up saying he was sticking it to the establishment.
If anything, Bernie voters love Biden so Bernie sniping Biden like this for something negligible is more likely to cause his voters defect to Biden (I doubt something like this makes a significant difference either way).
