Uh, gala fundraisers at Ohio University, duh.
Just checking if said LGBTQ event attendance had tipped the scales other way!
Obama didn't really evolve, he just did the politically smart, or cynical, thing to win the South Carolina primary in '08Biden has been pretty solid on LGBTQ Rights. He was signaling support for Gay marriage while Obama was still evolving his views. Was this event skip a calculated move? lets be real here a Democrat is winning California no matter what. Being at other events is not going to Harm Biden and its not an event that's going to win him Conservative votes so its not all politics.
http://time.com/3702584/gay-marriage-axelrod-obama/Barack Obama misled Americans for his own political benefit when he claimed in the 2008 election to oppose same sex marriage for religious reasons, his former political strategist David Axelrod writes in a new book, Believer: My Forty Years in Politics.
"I'm just not very good at bullshitting," Obama told Axelrod, after an event where he stated his opposition to same-sex marriage, according to the book.
Axelrod writes that he knew Obama was in favor of same-sex marriages during the first presidential campaign, even as Obama publicly said he only supported civil unions, not full marriages. Axelrod also admits to counseling Obama to conceal that position for political reasons. "Opposition to gay marriage was particularly strong in the black church, and as he ran for higher office, he grudgingly accepted the counsel of more pragmatic folks like me, and modified his position to support civil unions rather than marriage, which he would term a 'sacred union,' " Axelrod writes.
This is where Harris can make a PowePplay and become King Maker
Checking in, yes.
Yes. Hatred of a candidate should be separate from assessing their politcal viability, though. I'm not gonna be in denial of his chances just because I want his chances to be zero.
Obama didn't really evolve, he just did the politically smart, or cynical, thing to win the South Carolina primary in '08
http://time.com/3702584/gay-marriage-axelrod-obama/
call me a cynic but this looks like Biden ducked a venue he knew he wasn't gonna be welcomed at and shielded incoming criticism with an LGBTQ venue
but well played I guess
call me a cynic but this looks like Biden ducked a venue he knew he wasn't gonna be welcomed at and shielded incoming criticism with an LGBTQ venue
but well played I guess
It would.Honestly who cares if he wasnt at the convention? Isnt this the establishment that people dont care about anyway?
I feel like if you were to reverse Bernie with Biden the responses would look much different.
Obama was very good at bullshitting. He underestimates his own capacities. (this is intended as a compliment towards his political skill, as being able to bullshit is a necessary one in a politician.)Obama didn't really evolve, he just did the politically smart, or cynical, thing to win the South Carolina primary in '08
http://time.com/3702584/gay-marriage-axelrod-obama/
I mean, it's a nice gesture, but he's still a shit candidate.
Era hates gross harassers, yes
Fair point, but I still wish, in general, that they'd spend less time in CA. You are right, though.
Warren was DoA with her DNA bullshit.
Bernie? LOL
Harris might still have a chance, we'll see.
Beto? WTF ever happened to that guy?
joe biden attending an lgbt event doesn't suddenly make him not suck ass
Just checking if said LGBTQ event attendance had tipped the scales other way!
he could have easily went to both
he just doesn't have a lot of energy clearly and thinks he probably has the nomination in the bag. doesn't feel the need to meet with grassroots activists and delegates
Arguably this plays off poorly for them, all the Democrats crowding in California while Joe visits Real America.
Nope. They should do both. And they should go in hard on Biden. I'm not going to change my mind, he needs to be out of the race asap.They should shut up about where Biden is and tell the crowd why THEY should be president. All they managed to do by speaking out against Biden was look stupid.
Just checking if said LGBTQ event attendance had tipped the scales other way!
Yeah tbh it's not the worst play. Biden isn't courting Dem activists. .
Or what? He won't win California when he's the nominee? Perhaps the better question is why weren't the others in states that actually matter.
Or what? He won't win California when he's the nominee? Perhaps the better question is why weren't the others in states that actually matter.
he could have easily went to both
he just doesn't have a lot of energy clearly and thinks he probably has the nomination in the bag. doesn't feel the need to meet with grassroots activists and delegates
That was my take as well, but to be fair I'm mid-way through binging the final season of Veep, so it's hard not to be a bit cynical.call me a cynic but this looks like Biden ducked a venue he knew he wasn't gonna be welcomed at and shielded incoming criticism with an LGBTQ venue
but well played I guess
The worst?
You know for a fact that a lot of Era loves gross harassers, despite the fact that Era was born from a backlash against gross harassment.
its probably a bad play in the primary. Ohio isn't a very relevant state in the primary season, especially compared to the CA primary which takes place very early on this time.
Realest thing said in this threadYou know for a fact that a lot of Era loves gross harassers, despite the fact that Era was born from a backlash against gross harassment.
It's this shit that bothers me and is why I like Beto/Harris.
A different angle:
Looks like Biden has been trying to avoid direct contact with other candidates.
He'd skip the debates if he could, I bet.
Just a thought.
It's this shit that bothers me and is why I like Beto/Harris.
Do Bernie and Warren want to focus on making dumb snipes in the hope that Biden voters will care? Or in the case of this, to look foolish? Focus on your own campaign for fucks sake.
Ironic..You know for a fact that a lot of Era loves gross harassers, despite the fact that Era was born from a backlash against gross harassment.