a guy who talks pretty but votes like a generic democrat, it worked for barack obama it can work for bernie sanders!
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"Bernie's Back Rally" today in New York with guests Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Michael Moore
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a guy who talks pretty but votes like a generic democrat, it worked for barack obama it can work for bernie sanders!
If you're not a neoliberal, and cannot point to specific policies on which Sanders is not socially progressive enough, your objection to him comes across as rather aesthetic, rather than substantive.
holy shit at that power plant and how its next to public housing. that shit needs to be torn down
Bruh. Bernie is much more reliable than a generic democrat. Come on
it's not a hypothetical he literally has a voting record that spans decades lol
neither had obama when he was running in 2008
modpost - enough with the hostility
Looking at what he has done for the overtone window I'd take him over all cash loving dems any day.
On student loan forgiveness, I find it remarkable that every left leaning podcastI listen to fails to explain why Bernie can't do this. They just assume something has to go through Congress. It's really annoying. Hopefully this candidate field shrinks SOON so Bernie can hash out the universal versus targeted argument that needs to be had in the party and that's being avoided so Buttigieg and Klobuchar can yell at Warren to admit that Medicare for all raises taxes in "teh Mittle CLASS!!!"
It might be, but could he? I'm not familiar with how the rules work (being from Sweden) when nominating a VP for the running ticket.
Maybe I was quick to lump you in as a troll so my bad. I just kept seeing discussions that had nothing to do with the rally and was getting very irritated.
Thank you!
I had work today. When I got on the bus coming home, I saw people with Bernie signs. It was beautiful.
As a European, I really don't get people being against this candidate. I think the US would be much better off if you got him in the white house.
I will be relieved when anyone other than Trump is elected.
I will be ecstatic if either Bernie or Warren are elected. I have nothing but good feelings about both campaigns at this point.
I will be ecstatic if either Bernie or Warren are elected. I have nothing but good feelings about both campaigns at this point.
Bernie is the best choice for 2020. Bernie would probably be pretty progressive even here in the UK context...he is certainly even more combative than Corbyn, especially in his 1% rhetoric, and is a more powerful orator (not that is particularly important to me, but it generates hype).
Well he has to be elected president first before he can do that.
bernie calls his particularly style of soft capitalism welfare state "democratic socialism", while warren calls her particularly style of soft capitalism welfare state "accountable capitalism"
Sadly not in America he doesn't. Mass killings seem to be a popular hobby down there.
A lot of media regardless of leaning have trashed socialism or anything like it to the point it is seen as evil or treasonous to the foundation of the country.
idiots in this country supposedly hate socilaism despite having an abusive police force, military, and something social security or medicare.
I support him but i'd be very shocked if they did anything other go back to normal (16-18% range)
I think they wanted details...not platitudes.
For instance, Warren's Green New Deal would seek to raise 2 trillion while Sander's would seek 16.3 trillion. I think framing it in simple ideological terms like that is simplistic. It puts too much credince in abstract thinking. The Green New Deal alone, if underpinned by a just transition would be pretty radical in terms of socio-economic implications if implimented.
the tl;dr of it is both would represent fundamental shifts away from the status quo, but Sanders would go a little bit to much further depending on the issue owing to the fact that he's an avowed socialist rather than Warren's rather socdem leanings
(at least in domestic policy, Warren's a bit underdeveloped wrt FP)
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I reaaallly hope he gets the nomination. From what I can tell, he stood for leftist, progressive ideals long before others in the Democratic party hopped on the wagon when it might be convenient to do so now.
General gist of it is that Bernie's endgame would be socialism (or as close to socialism as possible), while Warren is more moderate and believes capitalism is good (provided it's controlled). In other words, Bernie leans harder to the left than Warren. Though it has to be said that they're both more to the left than the other candidates.
Jacobin had a good article about why it makes sense that AOC chose to back Sanders instead of Warren by comparing key differences between the two candidates: