Everyone sounded god awful in Dissidia. I put the blame on the VA director.
They used the same guy for KH2 and 3, which explains why the VA in general for those games is... not stellar.
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Best and worst voice actor recasts.
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They used the same guy for KH2 and 3, which explains why the VA in general for those games is... not stellar.
Bob Buchholz right? When I saw his name in the KH3 credits for additional voice direction I was like I can't believe this guy is still getting work
That's the one. He must be very cheap. Wish SE cared a bit more about localizing their games.
Viewtiful Joe.
In the games he was voiced by Dee Bradley Baker. He had a really cheesy inflection that struck a good balance of feeling like a bit of a loser but also really cool and straight-faced when under the mask, not too dissimilar to the likes of Spider-Man. It felt natural, his cockiness was charming by extension. He was Dante before Dante was written by Itsuno, and his VA helped convey that personality.
In Marvel vs Capcom 3 he was voiced by Darrel Guilbeau and... he doesn't fit, at all. Lest Joe's big fat fucking head in MvC3 goes unmentioned, making him look like a weird goblin person, his voice sounds too forced and high pitched. It's not helped by the writing behind him being really poor. Joe usually manifests his fourth wall awareness into a cocksure attitude, and he usually plays it pretty cool when going up against villains. His personality in MvC3 by comparison makes him come across as kinda wacky, bumbling and obnoxious. While I think that Joe in the games definitely had elements of that personality, it was usually balanced by how smooth of a VA that Baker was, and that's lost here.
If VJ3 exists, they better get Baker back in the role.
In the games he was voiced by Dee Bradley Baker. He had a really cheesy inflection that struck a good balance of feeling like a bit of a loser but also really cool and straight-faced when under the mask, not too dissimilar to the likes of Spider-Man. It felt natural, his cockiness was charming by extension. He was Dante before Dante was written by Itsuno, and his VA helped convey that personality.
In Marvel vs Capcom 3 he was voiced by Darrel Guilbeau and... he doesn't fit, at all. Lest Joe's big fat fucking head in MvC3 goes unmentioned, making him look like a weird goblin person, his voice sounds too forced and high pitched. It's not helped by the writing behind him being really poor. Joe usually manifests his fourth wall awareness into a cocksure attitude, and he usually plays it pretty cool when going up against villains. His personality in MvC3 by comparison makes him come across as kinda wacky, bumbling and obnoxious. While I think that Joe in the games definitely had elements of that personality, it was usually balanced by how smooth of a VA that Baker was, and that's lost here.
If VJ3 exists, they better get Baker back in the role.
Wait, what? As in, the same character voiced by two different people? (Never played Destiny)
DC Douglas' Albert Wesker was the best recast, just sounds like he was having a ball, Capcom better not recast him when the characters comes back in a hell demon form whatever.
The first Destiny game had the character Ghost which was voiced by Peter Dinklage but it was such an infamously mediocre performance that they patched it out of the game for The Taken King expansion and Nolan North was brought in to rerecord.
Best
Drew Coombs/Mathew Kaminsky -> Rueben Langdon
Pretty much everything fans currently love about the character can be traced back to Reuben. He's also the one who translated DMC 3 script, cast the other voices, suggested Shimomura as cutscene director, etc.
Michael Filipowich -> Roger Craig Smith
Worst
Roger Craig Smith -> RE 7 actor
Dat ain't Chris.
David Hayter -> Kiefer Sutherland
Look, we all know that Hayter's performances after MGS 3 were extremely exaggerated. However, dialing that performance back to MGS 1/2 levels was the answer, not recasting.
Drew Coombs/Mathew Kaminsky -> Rueben Langdon
Pretty much everything fans currently love about the character can be traced back to Reuben. He's also the one who translated DMC 3 script, cast the other voices, suggested Shimomura as cutscene director, etc.
Michael Filipowich -> Roger Craig Smith
Worst
Roger Craig Smith -> RE 7 actor
Dat ain't Chris.
David Hayter -> Kiefer Sutherland
Look, we all know that Hayter's performances after MGS 3 were extremely exaggerated. However, dialing that performance back to MGS 1/2 levels was the answer, not recasting.
Imagine thinking this shit about Rutger Hauer. Jesus fucking Christ.
Also kind of crazy since the Japanese actor also was replaced. It's not like they had any choice. Feels bad to lambast the actors for replacing those who sadly passed away.
Interesting how Kiefer in MGSV is both "Best" and "Worst" in this thread.
Yeah for real. Some people need to watch more movies.
Hauer did fine given the material and the director who is apparently not very good.
Yeah for real. Some people need to watch more movies.
Hauer did fine given the material and the director who is apparently not very good.
Whew. Thank you. When I first heard his voice actor was being replaced, I was disappointed because I had a generally favorable opinion of the original guy. But then I played GOW2018 and went back to listen to the VA in the older games, and oh man did I think it was bad. A huge upgrade indeed.
I didnt hate Sutherland, but ya, there is no replacing Hayter, he was Snake
Came in here to say this. New voice doesn't fit the character at all, I also just never really liked any of Ashly Burch's performances to begin with. I get people probably felt that way with Chie, but I like both of her voice actors and they both offer something different yet fitting. Laura Bailey will always be Rise.
To be fair it wasn't really his fault since the entire story got scrapped way too late into development, and they decided to have Ghost make up almost all the deficit on his own, so they had to have Peter Dinklage record so many lines on such a tight deadline that there wasn't even any time for proper direction.
Yeah part of me actually wondered if there was a more contractual or technical reason for it though yeah the story basically became "Dinklage sucked so North came in."
One randomly came to me even though it's not the hugest deal:
I liked Greg Eagles (George Byrd) as the MGS Cyborg Ninja more than Rob Paulsen's version in Twin Snakes.
Chie is very jarring in Persona 4 Golden but I think it fits her way better than the original voice, tbh. At least when she isn't going HWA-TAH, which does make my ears bleed. I barely even noticed the Teddie change, or the Kanji and Rise replacements later on, although it had been a while since I heard their dubs when I finally finished P4 Dancing the other week.
Also Fuuka and Ken from Persona 3 got way better voices in later games.
I also think Aerith had terrible voices pretty universally up until Crisis Core. Which is weird considering Mandy Moore is legit great in other roles, it just felt like most of the celebrities in KH1 were phoning it in.
Hayter to Keifer was utterly pointless and the way they did it gives me little sympathy for Kojima in particular.
Also Fuuka and Ken from Persona 3 got way better voices in later games.
I also think Aerith had terrible voices pretty universally up until Crisis Core. Which is weird considering Mandy Moore is legit great in other roles, it just felt like most of the celebrities in KH1 were phoning it in.
Hayter to Keifer was utterly pointless and the way they did it gives me little sympathy for Kojima in particular.
He didn't even sound like he was trying, though. Towards the very end of the vanilla campaign he started to sound a little better and more emotive, but the rest of it is infamously bad.
The main reason they had North record the old lines again was because it was a patch to the existing game and would have been super jarring. I was okay with it, but it also kiiind of makes me wish it were possible to equip a Ghost voice pack for at least the lines that aren't part of the main story. some of Dinklage's lines are just so goofy how he said them that it would almost be fun to have them again.
I'm kind of torn on them having North do Cayde's voice in Forsaken, if only because he had so few lines that it's a shame there couldn't have been time to actually have Fillion do them. To be fair to North, though, he did a pretty good job sounding enough like him to not have a huge change but enough not like him to still be Nolan North instead of just hiring a soundalike. Their voices are close enough in most cases that it's not a huge problem, anyway.
Why not!
Though, to be honest, I still kind of preferred the Ocean dub to Funi's. Nobody will ever replace the Japanese cast for me, but Ocean's take was better, IMO. I actually like Christopher Sabat, but him doing Piccolo AND Vegeta was too much, especially since they both just sound like they've been smoking for 80s years. Piccolo I like and it fits well enough, but it should have been someone else for Vegeta, IMO.
Almost all of the recast voices for Silent Hill 3 from the HD collection. Now, the VAs they got are usually good, but the voice direction they were given was way off mark.
OP
OP
Oh for another good one Sephiroth.
From fucking Lace Bass of all people to George "Superman" Newbern. Who does such a great job in the roll.
From fucking Lace Bass of all people to George "Superman" Newbern. Who does such a great job in the roll.
Please make him DLC for 3 please.
MGSV in two cases:
David Hayter to Kiefer Sutherland
Patric Zimmerman (or Josh Keaton) to Troy Baker
Neither were "bad", there were just not as good the the previous and the characters were already established. It was weird. Besides, Ocelot is waaaay more dramatic.
David Hayter to Kiefer Sutherland
Patric Zimmerman (or Josh Keaton) to Troy Baker
Neither were "bad", there were just not as good the the previous and the characters were already established. It was weird. Besides, Ocelot is waaaay more dramatic.
Best: Mitsurugi from Soulcalibur 3, 4, and 5 (Ed Cunningham) to Soulcalibur 6 (Ray Chase). Ed Cunningham is pretty decent as an older Mitsurugi in SC5, but Ray Chase did an awesome job in SC6.
Worst: Literally everyone from Dynasty Warriors 8 to Dynasty Warriors 9. As if DW9 wasn't already enough of a dumpster fire, the English dub sounds like they took four of Koei's janitors and set them in front of a microphone. Everyone in this game sounds identical and the voice acting itself is really bad. DW8's English dub wasn't perfect, but was sure as hell better than this.
Worst: Literally everyone from Dynasty Warriors 8 to Dynasty Warriors 9. As if DW9 wasn't already enough of a dumpster fire, the English dub sounds like they took four of Koei's janitors and set them in front of a microphone. Everyone in this game sounds identical and the voice acting itself is really bad. DW8's English dub wasn't perfect, but was sure as hell better than this.
Kiefer Sutherland in MGS5 wouldn't have bothered me if it wasnt for the fact that all the 3 main guys sounded exactly the same. Impossible to tell who was talking at some points.
David Hayter's performance in Peace Walker was awful. Almost sounded like a parody.
Replacing him was understandable when considering the tone of GZ and V, although it still puzzles me that they kept the Huey/Otacon voice actor. I thought that dude was bad even in MGS1.
Disagree.
MGSV is incredibly cartoony. David Hayter would've fit just fine.
I understand people wishing Billy still played Ansem, but Richard is fantastic, too!
A literal robot lmao.How are people mentoning Kingdom Hearts and not bring up the worst replacement ever?
Yeah, I just started to watch the Giant Bomb Endurance run, and old Chie is so much worse than Golden Chie. Haven't gotten to Teddy yet.
Oh my the old Pokemon dub was just so much better than the newer one. I still can't hear Ash in Sarah Natochenny's work. I do like her as Pokémon Trainer in Smash though.
Doesn't get much worse than this. To be fair to Kiefer, he was the least of the problems surrounding MGSV's narrative and characters. David Hayter would not have saved that mess.
Aside from his passing to honor his role, another reason he's in the credits.
Imagine misinterpreting that post. Jesus fucking Christ.
No where in the post was it stated that one did not know him nor did it state that one's movie watching is limited.
Never played KH2. Did he use his Master Miller/ Kratos voice?
I liked Keifer as Snake. He sounded perfect for that version of that character at the time it took place in. It fit the overall mood of 5.
I also didn't mind Lance Bass as Sephiroth in Kingdom Hearts. I always assumed he'd have a high effeminate voice. Superman's voice also worked though.
I also didn't mind Lance Bass as Sephiroth in Kingdom Hearts. I always assumed he'd have a high effeminate voice. Superman's voice also worked though.
