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Best combat system of 2017
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My first post here on Resetera:)
For me good combat and intuitive movement is essentially the gameplay in adventures and RPGs..
Best combat this year undoubetly has Horizon zero dawn; it has some interesting options, unique enemies, surprisingly well executed stealth mechanics ans it looks and sounds absolutely amazing.
Didn't play Nioh or Nier Automata so the next pick could be controversal but for me it's Prey. Make sure you max out the skill tree "movement", it unlocks fast running and double jump and so it comes really close to what Doom was last year. It lacks enemy variety, tough.
Third pick is Mario&Rabbids. It simply is satisfying.
For me good combat and intuitive movement is essentially the gameplay in adventures and RPGs..
Best combat this year undoubetly has Horizon zero dawn; it has some interesting options, unique enemies, surprisingly well executed stealth mechanics ans it looks and sounds absolutely amazing.
Didn't play Nioh or Nier Automata so the next pick could be controversal but for me it's Prey. Make sure you max out the skill tree "movement", it unlocks fast running and double jump and so it comes really close to what Doom was last year. It lacks enemy variety, tough.
Third pick is Mario&Rabbids. It simply is satisfying.
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The hidden GOTY that nobody knows about. Who needs this games-as-a-service hoopla when you control this senile delinquent with as much as precision as Nioh and Nier combined. Parry, my ass...
The hidden GOTY that nobody knows about. Who needs this games-as-a-service hoopla when you control this senile delinquent with as much as precision as Nioh and Nier combined. Parry, my ass...
Mario + Rabbids has an excellent battle system. You dash into an enemy, barely making it to the pipe you use to reach the other side of the map, and get an extra burst of energy on the other side, which lets you can reach an ally who helps you leap to reach new heights, jumping on an enemy and then landing behind cover. You decide on your next target and hit them squarely. Your shot pushes them to backwards, letting you take your opportunity to shoot them again, which knocks them out of bounds. Then you take control of the next character that turn.
It was pretty great indeed. Only thing that was really missing was a confirmation button for actions. Many times I accidentally clicked somewhere sending my character into an open space ruining that mission for me.
Holy shit , looking forward to nioh going by the comments in this thread . I bought it a couple of weeks ago but also bought bloodbourne at the same time and that downloaded first . So just starting old hunter dlc of that and later in week when I finish that will start nioh , or perhaps frozen wilds . All great combat systems!
Nioh beat my ass, only got as fair as the spinning witch bitch. Think it's time for me to dig back in
How do we define "best combat"? If it is about depth and skill then Nioh is undoubtedly the best combat game this year. But if it is about fun factor I'll have to go with Horizon. Fighting the robots in Horizon is more enjoyable and satisfying than anything I've played in Nioh.
Ha, had that issue happen so many times. It's so easy to accidentally move next to an enemy instead of confirming a dash attack. Led me to restart quite a few levels to get a perfect rating. I think that a 'confirm' button would add too many annoying button presses throughout the game though. What every XCom style tactics game needs is a 3-second grace period for an 'Undo'. I.e. not looking enough to cheese the system by gaming hit percentages but enough to let me not move to the wrong square by mistake.
I'd argue against Rabbids here as best combat just because I never was forced to vary away from my Mario, Luigi and Rabbid Luigi team. I got a perfect on almost every mission with the same core moves and abilities and got a little bored towards the end as a result.
Toss up to Nioh, Nier, P5...damn there are actually quite a few games that have good combat systems this year. Nioh is the one i've spent by far the most time on, cant get away from stance switching. Still not tired after 600 hours
Im quite astounded how versatile and satisfying Shadows of Mordor is, the animations are breathtaking. Everything has a sense of weight and brutality to it. Yes its cinematic, but i prefer that then to pure combat system like DMC and Souls.
Shadows of Mordor for me, also loved Batman Arkham Knight combat.
Worst: Breath of the Wild, little enemy variety & behaviour, limited animations, quite archaic in movement, no strategy needed, let the game down tremendously.
Shadows of Mordor for me, also loved Batman Arkham Knight combat.
Worst: Breath of the Wild, little enemy variety & behaviour, limited animations, quite archaic in movement, no strategy needed, let the game down tremendously.
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In terms of "best", surely ECHO deserves some kind of nod for being innovative and standing out from the pack? At least in terms of trying to incorporate machine learning into games. I feel really sad every time I'm reminded how poorly that game sold.
I'm glad to see so many people saying HZD and D:OS2. To me, those are definitely the two games with the best combat systems of this year. I actually just beat D:OS2 yesterday after 99 hours. I had so much fun throughout the entire playthrough, never got tired of the combat. All the different encounters and options you have during each combat scenario was just awesome. I played on Tactician mode, so most encounter, even late-game was challenging enough, so I couldn't just breeze through them.
Horizon was just fantastic, both in its combat system and the game in general. I haven't gone back after 100% it, but I really want to go back soon and play NG+ and Ultra Hard.
Horizon was just fantastic, both in its combat system and the game in general. I haven't gone back after 100% it, but I really want to go back soon and play NG+ and Ultra Hard.
Ys VIII has some lovely responsive combat, though there are times I wish I could cancel out of a combo a bit easier. The combat in Nier Automata was also quite fun. For turn based, Persona 5's was quality but aside from the stylish UI didn't really innovate all that much.
Nier, Persona 5, and Horizon all had fantastic combat and felt so good to play, but Nioh stands at the top for those quick flurries and perfectly timed ki pulses that just allow you to keep going. The hard clash of metal sound that accompanied the ki pulse felt so pleasing to hear. I'd also like to give a special nod to Resident Evil 7 in VR. The head tracked aiming was great and elevated that game so much.
Hands down Nioh for me the space in where you can play in is so vast. I wanna say it's too bad that loot/high incoming dmg mitigates a lot of the motivation for players to really explore the system since you just grind yourself to a one shot machine.
I feel like maybe they should have designed more active boni for pulling of great combos and exploiting more of the combat mechanics instead of just the loots and stat ones. More stuff like the the dmg buff after ki pulses integrated in the play flow of good execution might have been great. That said I enjoy the loot too much and the journey to become a 1 shot machine that I'm not too sad that not every single second of nioh is high stress execution demanding combat.
I feel like maybe they should have designed more active boni for pulling of great combos and exploiting more of the combat mechanics instead of just the loots and stat ones. More stuff like the the dmg buff after ki pulses integrated in the play flow of good execution might have been great. That said I enjoy the loot too much and the journey to become a 1 shot machine that I'm not too sad that not every single second of nioh is high stress execution demanding combat.
Latest patch fixed those. Play it, man. One of the year's best.
In terms of pure delight/joy, it's Nier Automata hands down. It's an open-world RPG with combat designed by Platinum. Is there anything else that needs to be said?
Though in terms of technicality, I'mma get all controversial up in your ass and say Mass Effect Andromeda. Such a damn shame about the rest of the game...
Though in terms of technicality, I'mma get all controversial up in your ass and say Mass Effect Andromeda. Such a damn shame about the rest of the game...
Thanks for this! I'm playing though Odyssey now, but im definitely going to pick up Rabbids afterwards.
Thread title immediately made me think Nioh. Glad to see it was represented in the OP! I don't usually play a game twice in the same year but damn I'm tempted to get Nioh on PC.
Turn based version would definitely be Divinity: Original Sin 2. The amount of options you have are just immense.
Dragon's Dogma is real good as well but also not a 2017 game.
Turn based version would definitely be Divinity: Original Sin 2. The amount of options you have are just immense.
Dragon's Dogma is real good as well but also not a 2017 game.
Absolver gets my vote.
Combat system is amazing. Like For Honor but 10 times better. I loved experimenting with differente moves, attacks and combos. Great animations made it look amazing. The flow of every fight is just perfect.
Of course fighting couple of enemies at once sucks and I think game had many flaws overall, but 1v1 combat? Almost perfect.
Combat system is amazing. Like For Honor but 10 times better. I loved experimenting with differente moves, attacks and combos. Great animations made it look amazing. The flow of every fight is just perfect.
Of course fighting couple of enemies at once sucks and I think game had many flaws overall, but 1v1 combat? Almost perfect.
I skipped Nioh since I didn't like any of the betas.
So for me the best combat I engaged in isn't standout. No game automatically came to mind. Nier combat doesn't get to be truly spectacular because the enemies are just cannon fodder. Horizon Zero Dawn combat is great, but didn't feel like a tight gameplay loop I wanted to experience over and over. Persona 5 maybe wins this category because I spent over 100 hours with the game and the combat remained interesting and challenging enough throughout.
Prey to me was the most interesting game on all levels I encountered this year. The gloo gun, how to fight mimics, and the weapons being satisfying all helped. Evil Within 2, if you desired to play with combat while it encourages stealth far more, is fun combat. I loved stomp the yarding enemies on the ground, the shotguns felt great to shoot, and environmental use to garner kills was fun.
I guess Persona 5? I don't know. Nothing was spectacular combat this year. Maybe Xenoblade will save the day ?
So for me the best combat I engaged in isn't standout. No game automatically came to mind. Nier combat doesn't get to be truly spectacular because the enemies are just cannon fodder. Horizon Zero Dawn combat is great, but didn't feel like a tight gameplay loop I wanted to experience over and over. Persona 5 maybe wins this category because I spent over 100 hours with the game and the combat remained interesting and challenging enough throughout.
Prey to me was the most interesting game on all levels I encountered this year. The gloo gun, how to fight mimics, and the weapons being satisfying all helped. Evil Within 2, if you desired to play with combat while it encourages stealth far more, is fun combat. I loved stomp the yarding enemies on the ground, the shotguns felt great to shoot, and environmental use to garner kills was fun.
I guess Persona 5? I don't know. Nothing was spectacular combat this year. Maybe Xenoblade will save the day ?
This is the truth. The design of the combat system in Absolver is the best new take on fighting games since Smash Bros. I absolutely love it still 80+ hours later. They've been steady with patches and updates too. Absolver easily gets my vote for most-underappreciated game this year. It even has music by Austin Wintory (Journey Composer) AND a song co-produced by RZA (from Wu-tang) as the final boss fight theme!
We need an Absolver appreciation thread to raise awareness.
Out of what I played, it's Horizon Zero Dawn. The human and melee combat can be weak, but the various robots and combat options made up for it.
Breath of the Wild was pretty good too with all the options available. Just a shame that weapons hardly lasted a couple of encounters and some elements were repetitive.
Looking forward to Nioh.
Breath of the Wild was pretty good too with all the options available. Just a shame that weapons hardly lasted a couple of encounters and some elements were repetitive.
Looking forward to Nioh.
From what I've played I'd also go with Horizon. The basic melee combat can be a little messy but overall it just feels fantastic to play. It's a bit tricky comparing such vastly different games though. I loved the combat in Persona 5 as well but how do you really compare that to something like Horizon? I've also yet to play Nier but I really enjoyed the demo.
And I'll give a shout out to Absolver as well. Maybe that is the right answer... it's still apples to oranges though.
And I'll give a shout out to Absolver as well. Maybe that is the right answer... it's still apples to oranges though.
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I'm guessing not many in this thread has played the greatness that is Divinity: Original Sin 2.
