It's even funnier now that they're out because Yakuza 6's combat is actually pretty bad compared to other games in the series let alone compared to the new GoW, which has surpassed most people's expectations on combat I think it's fair to say.
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Best Combat system this gen, best Combat system of all time
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It's even funnier now that they're out because Yakuza 6's combat is actually pretty bad compared to other games in the series let alone compared to the new GoW, which has surpassed most people's expectations on combat I think it's fair to say.
If you really want to know what the combat is all about in God of War, the optional content is where it is at. The game has made me do something I do in some character action games. Some straight Naruto shit where I had to get better at the game RIGHT NOW or I couldn't get past it. There was an encounter I was having hell with and when I finally beat it I didn't get hit once.
Any combat videos of God of war that show off how great it is in the hands of a competent player? No doubt it has mobility and combat options, I'd like to see what it' is like when its all put together.
I just started the game and have avoided pretty much all info on the game aside from a couple trailers leading up to release. (When I'm going to buy a game I avoid info on it lol). Hearing this level of praise on its combat is a nice surprise.
I just started the game and have avoided pretty much all info on the game aside from a couple trailers leading up to release. (When I'm going to buy a game I avoid info on it lol). Hearing this level of praise on its combat is a nice surprise.
Exanima is worth playing on it's own for sure, especially at the low price it's being sold. Although it's still in Early Access and not done yet (with a major Patch currently in closed testing) here's what you can do:
- Story Mode: Create your character, with choices of background as you unlock them which affects your starting equipement and how NPCs react to you (Dialogue is in the Closed Testing build). Progress through various maze like floors with puzzles where you can find lore books for clues into the complex story. Fight a variety of enemies with their own personality (Some fight, some run, some help you. All remember how you dealt with them and analyse your disposition) that range from Undead, Skeletons, Ogres & Golems
- Practice Mode: Fight through 10 set challenge matches where you have all skills unlocked and keep the gear you earn from each enemy defeated. Once completed you unlock the Hard difficulty where there's a new set of Enemies with higher quality gear.
- Arena Mode: Create your character to fight in various arena matches (Free For All, Team battles, Ogre matches, Fist fights, ect...) to earn money and gain experience. Spend the money on equipment for each Tier, hire AI controlled NPCs to fight for you or with you and recruit new Characters to fight with
The combat is the main draw of the game, even if the devs are mostly aiming for a rich world with depth and intricate classic RPG mechanics. Just be sure to go into it with the right mindset of patience where you're willing to put in the time to pick-up the very unique control scheme and actually player skill based progression (as in you can pull fancy maneuvers once you're used to your character and weapon)
I like my combat to have both depth and speed. From what I've played these are my picks
NGB
DMC4
Bayonetta 1
Bayonetta 2
Nioh(Demo only)
I like DeSouls and Bloodbourne a lot but they aren't my cup of tea for best combat of all time.
This gen it's definitely Bayonetta 2 and Nioh that are my picks. Also I'm under the assumption we are talking about action games primarily.(otherwise add Crysis 1/warhead to the list)
NGB
DMC4
Bayonetta 1
Bayonetta 2
Nioh(Demo only)
I like DeSouls and Bloodbourne a lot but they aren't my cup of tea for best combat of all time.
This gen it's definitely Bayonetta 2 and Nioh that are my picks. Also I'm under the assumption we are talking about action games primarily.(otherwise add Crysis 1/warhead to the list)
Grandia 3's is better.
But it's literally the only good thing about that game.
I just started playing NGB again. I can't believe how good this combat is after all these years. The camera is a nightmare, but this combat is the best i've ever played in an action game. I SUCK at this game now, but that doesn't take away from how intense the combat scenarios are.
Games that stick out from memory:
Dark Souls 2
Bayonetta
Arkham Asylum
ZOE 2
but Ninja Gaiden Black might be the king. It's still so incredible. I wish a camera patch could be put in. And the ability to use special items like elixir without going into a menu.
Melee combat:
Bloodborne is pretty much my favorite, though I am currently playing GOW and it's combat is ace.
TPS:
MGSV and Uncharted 4 both are great for me in very different ways.
Horizon Zero Dawn:
Thisis pretty much the best bow combat I have played. The encounters with the machine dinosaurs is just unmatched and thrilling.
GOAT is difficult since there are many great combat systems in different genres.
Bloodborne is pretty much my favorite, though I am currently playing GOW and it's combat is ace.
TPS:
MGSV and Uncharted 4 both are great for me in very different ways.
Horizon Zero Dawn:
Thisis pretty much the best bow combat I have played. The encounters with the machine dinosaurs is just unmatched and thrilling.
GOAT is difficult since there are many great combat systems in different genres.
https://youtu.be/rl38MmcAYYw
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So I had a bit of fun with God of War. Gunna buy it and play on my account.
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So I had a bit of fun with God of War. Gunna buy it and play on my account.
As someone who is currently playing through Nioh I'm not seeing why it gets so many votes for best combat. It's like the developers wanted to copy Dark Souls combat but didn't quite understand why people love it. The game is basically, "what if we make Dark Souls with cheap deaths to artifically increase the difficulty,". In the first few hours I've died from more bullshit mechanics than the entirety of the Souls series and a few clones combined.
I have no idea what are you talking about.
What "mechanics" killed you?
Nioh is weird. I think its combat system is indeed quite good, but the encounter design, enemy variety and difficulty balance in general is so poor that it doesn't really make a difference to me.
I also find it lame that so many claim it's inherently better than regular Souls combat just because it's more complex. It's not, they're just different.
This describes it PERFECTLY.
When I got to the forest I seriously thought for the first time since NG2 that I would need to start the game over on a lower difficulty but I perceived and when I beat it I didn't get hit once.
Feels so damn good.
I think Nioh has excellent combat but I never enjoyed fighting against the robots. They just weren't fun and they all start to blend together.
Before last week I would have said Bloodborne or Horizon Zero Dawn for this generation, but now I might have to say God of War. It's just so good. The combat scenario design is just so clever and constantly getting more complex throughout the course of the game.
This gen is Nioh. Of all time and any genre it's guilty gear accent core
If I had to pick a non fighting game then DMC4
If I had to pick a non fighting game then DMC4
i wouldn't call myself competent...far from it. This is like less than one third point of the game with less than half of the skills unlocked...
but still, i am pretty proud of this fight that i managed to not get hit for even once..
this gen: Bayonetta 2 & The Wonderful 101
all time: Ninja Gaiden II, (power gap), everything else
I don't see anything special about Nioh's combat. It's a step or two more complex than the Souls games, but most pure action games run laps around both of them. It doesn't mean they're not good, they're just simple.
all time: Ninja Gaiden II, (power gap), everything else
I don't see anything special about Nioh's combat. It's a step or two more complex than the Souls games, but most pure action games run laps around both of them. It doesn't mean they're not good, they're just simple.
This gen: Divinity Original Sin 2 -- the amount of freedom in that game's combat is unparalleled with anything i've played
All time: That's really hard. Maybe Dragon's Dogma or Divinity OS2.
All time: That's really hard. Maybe Dragon's Dogma or Divinity OS2.
This is like jumping into a Ferrari on its fifth gear without knowing how to change gear in the first place. I think most people here will just ignore your opinion on any game if this is how you like to assess a game's mechanic; it is lazy, rushed and impulsive.
It shouldnt feel anything like Souls combat of you're playing a certain way.
Try low stance with A agility. It's closer to Ninja Gaiden.
It really feels like a new and fresh Souls-like experience. I do feel that GoW stands on its own though. Souls has just the closest combat system I can directly compare it to. I'm really thankful for that, as Dark Souls 3 was getting a little stale. Here in hard difficulty, the beginnig feels like master the mechanics or perish you fool. I love it.
This Gen: God Of War- The weight, impact, flexibility, methodical encounter design, and depth while still remaining accessible does it for me. 2nd is Bayonetta 2.
All Time: Ninja Gaiden 2- Fast, frantic, destructive, wide array of weaponry, with the depth of a fighting game.
All Time: Ninja Gaiden 2- Fast, frantic, destructive, wide array of weaponry, with the depth of a fighting game.
DMC 4 easily.
While usually games have a combat system, it really is a combat system with some game around it.
While usually games have a combat system, it really is a combat system with some game around it.
I think you forgot to mention Monster Hunter. The combat in that game is really underappreciated...
It's definitely Nioh. I found the game overall just ok. But the combat is unmatched, the stance fluidity, without being incredibly cumbersome. Genuinely the best I think I've ever seen in a real time action title.
Prior to that, in a different sense, and maybe my all time favorite. Is Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy. The things you can do in that game are just awesome, and it's simplistic in a realistic way (Minus the force powers lol). That game was a blast, I can't imagine how good a modern day Jedi Knight game would be.
Prior to that, in a different sense, and maybe my all time favorite. Is Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy. The things you can do in that game are just awesome, and it's simplistic in a realistic way (Minus the force powers lol). That game was a blast, I can't imagine how good a modern day Jedi Knight game would be.
My experience with Nioh's combat is that it's a lot like DS combat except with a bunch of complexity bolted on all over it that makes it more complex but not necessarily more deep.
Godhand. Use stick to dodge or use an invincible backlflip. All super fast point blank offense and defense in one simple idea. So many dodges strafes and punishes. Plus your face buttons were fully customizable attacks and supers slowed time and were roulette wheel organised instead of input based. Meant the system was universal to any moveset you created. Sound too easy? The less you are hit the stronger the next hit is...you could get one shotted if you go ham too hard and screw up in a crowd. Best system ever.
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It is really something. I'd kill for a current-gen revamp. Surely there's an audience for that... at least on Steam indies?
I personally love it, and I just feel like turn-based RPGs are slowly disappearing, so Persona 5 is one of my favorites. Anyways, I just giving my opinion :)